ACLU Defends MILO and the Usual Libtard Suspects Attack The ACLU for Defending Free Speech

[martybegan]

This is so freaking stupid, you just cant make it up.

Reality is stranger than fiction.

Liberals Attack ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos’ Right to Free Speech

The American Civil Liberties Union is being slammed defending the right of Milo Yiannopoulos to free speech.

Posting on Twitter, the ACLU account signal boosted the tweets of one of its lawyers, Lee Rowland, who said it was important to protect speech—even speech we personally disagree with—to prevent the First Amendment from devolving into a popularity contest.

Both the official ACLU Twitter account and Rowland were mobbed by outraged social justice warriors who told them they were wrong to defend his basic rights.

Their arguments were replete with hyperbole denouncing him as some kind of homosexual Nazi whose words will usher in a very gay and very fabulous Fourth Reich. The hysteria couldn’t, of course, be farther from the truth.​

Oh FUCKING BULLSHIT. You swallow all your headlines whole, moron? Where does it prove the blowback came from "Liberals"? Hm?

If ACLU defended the Constitution --- which is what it always does --- and somebody attacks ACLU for it, then by definition they can't be Liberals.

Which is the point our side has been making for the past few years, the current progressive movement isn't liberal in the classical sense, it is totalitarian.

 

[saveliberty]

The problem is compounded when one asks whether this is all that government can or should do on behalf of individual freedom. Some liberals—the so-called neoclassical liberals, or libertarians—answer that it is. Since the late 19th century, however, most liberals have insisted that the powers of government can promote as well as protect the freedom of the individual. According to modern liberalism, the chief task of government is to remove obstacles that prevent individuals from living freely or from fully realizing their potential. Such obstacles include poverty, disease, discrimination, and ignorance.

Do you agree with the bold section, because that makes you a modern liberal, which different from the liberal the Founder were.

No, that's more activist government. That's more like leftism.

I've always boiled it down to a simple equation:

• To declare "all men are created equal" --- is Liberalism.
• To them declare "therefore we have to pass Affirmative Action quotas to make them equal" --- is leftism.

Liberalism sees government as a referee. A referee will call a penalty when a player goes out of bounds --- but he doesn't actually play in the game.

Interesting response Pogo, we are much closer than I had imagined. Glad I asked the questions.

 

[saveliberty]

Meanwhile --- OP ran away again. No doubt to do his research on who these "usual suspects" are...

I try to hide in plain sight.

 

[hadit]

This is so freaking stupid, you just cant make it up.

Reality is stranger than fiction.

Liberals Attack ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos’ Right to Free Speech

The American Civil Liberties Union is being slammed defending the right of Milo Yiannopoulos to free speech.

Posting on Twitter, the ACLU account signal boosted the tweets of one of its lawyers, Lee Rowland, who said it was important to protect speech—even speech we personally disagree with—to prevent the First Amendment from devolving into a popularity contest.

Both the official ACLU Twitter account and Rowland were mobbed by outraged social justice warriors who told them they were wrong to defend his basic rights.

Their arguments were replete with hyperbole denouncing him as some kind of homosexual Nazi whose words will usher in a very gay and very fabulous Fourth Reich. The hysteria couldn’t, of course, be farther from the truth.​

Oh FUCKING BULLSHIT. You swallow all your headlines whole, moron? Where does it prove the blowback came from "Liberals"? Hm?

If ACLU defended the Constitution --- which is what it always does --- and somebody attacks ACLU for it, then by definition they can't be Liberals.

Which definition? If you use the classic definition, modern American conservatives are liberals.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Which is the point our side has been making for the past few years, the current progressive movement isn't liberal in the classical sense, it is totalitarian.

The Progressive left is at a watershed moment. It will either go back toward classic liberalism or it will continue into leftwing fascism.

I am praying that they restore their classic liberal credentials.

 

[2aguy]

This is so freaking stupid, you just cant make it up.

Reality is stranger than fiction.

Liberals Attack ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos’ Right to Free Speech

The American Civil Liberties Union is being slammed defending the right of Milo Yiannopoulos to free speech.

Posting on Twitter, the ACLU account signal boosted the tweets of one of its lawyers, Lee Rowland, who said it was important to protect speech—even speech we personally disagree with—to prevent the First Amendment from devolving into a popularity contest.

Both the official ACLU Twitter account and Rowland were mobbed by outraged social justice warriors who told them they were wrong to defend his basic rights.

Their arguments were replete with hyperbole denouncing him as some kind of homosexual Nazi whose words will usher in a very gay and very fabulous Fourth Reich. The hysteria couldn’t, of course, be farther from the truth.​

Free speech is only allowed for the left. The so called "Free Speech" movement in Berkely....wasn't. It was the free speech movement for left winger who hated America....and the silencing of all opposition...and we see the fruits of that poison today as the left wing, democrat party fascists, violently attack Trump supporters, police and set fires and smash buildings and windows.

 

[2aguy]

Which is the point our side has been making for the past few years, the current progressive movement isn't liberal in the classical sense, it is totalitarian.

The Progressive left is at a watershed moment. It will either go back toward classic liberalism or it will continue into leftwing fascism.

I am praying that they restore their classic liberal credentials.

That genie is out of the bottle....they are going to continue being violent till they kill a whole bunch of people....they have filled mass graves around the world...and they have a genuine taste for it......

 

[2aguy]

I don't have a "spin". Again, just like the last thread, the OP and his article make a claim they can't back up. And I've demonstrated why the premise is inoperative.

I'd also like him to essplain what he means by "the usual libtard suspects". I wonder if he claims to personally know the tweeters cited. How else would he know they're "usual"?

He won't answer that though.

For your own benefit there is this theory that if it walks, talks and generally acts like a duck, it is probably a duck. You haven't demonstrated dick Pogo. It is simply an avoidance of the obvious, because it doesn't fit your narrative of reality.

Again with the "probability" theories, this time based on a term neither you nor the OP apparently understands.

Liberalism WROTE the Constitution. The entire concept of "Free Speech" is Liberalism. You cannot, by definition, be a Liberal and an anti-Liberal at the same time. THINK about it. They're the opposite of each other



Notice if you will the OP says nothing about "probabilities". Does it say "ACLU got slammed and it's probably Liberals"? No it does not --- it comes out with the flat declaration that not only are they what he calls "libtards" but they're "the usual suspects", as if he already knows them.

NOTHING in that is about "probabilities" so take your spin and cram it up your laundromat.

Notice another similarity with the other thread. Here too the OP has nothing to say in his own defense.

There is absolutely no similarity between the history of Liberalism and what passes for Liberalism today. You say "The entire concept of Free Speech is Liberalism." Sure, as long as you are parroting the Democratic Party Line, you are free to speak. Deviate from that, and the "Free Speech" lovers will burn your cars, pepper spray you in the face, beat you senseless and target you with death threats.

The socialists have to hide who they are, and the first thing they do is change what they call themselves. They used to call themselves progressives...till their big government crap was seen for what it was, as they supported the worst monsters around the world....so when that word was no longer hiding who they were...they took up the name "liberal" because of what it meant.....not who they were...but they used it to hide their beliefs....now that people are identifying them and their beliefs with the word "liberal" they are going back to "Progressive."

The left cannot be truthful about who they are, and they can't afford to let people identify who they are....that is why they use violence to silence Milo...he is getting a lot of attention...and they have to shut him down...since he is going to their indoctrination centers......Universities.........

 

[2aguy]

The problem is compounded when one asks whether this is all that government can or should do on behalf of individual freedom. Some liberals—the so-called neoclassical liberals, or libertarians—answer that it is. Since the late 19th century, however, most liberals have insisted that the powers of government can promote as well as protect the freedom of the individual. According to modern liberalism, the chief task of government is to remove obstacles that prevent individuals from living freely or from fully realizing their potential. Such obstacles include poverty, disease, discrimination, and ignorance.

Do you agree with the bold section, because that makes you a modern liberal, which different from the liberal the Founder were.

No, that's more activist government. That's more like leftism.

I've always boiled it down to a simple equation:

• To declare "all men are created equal" --- is Liberalism.
• To them declare "therefore we have to pass Affirmative Action quotas to make them equal" --- is leftism.

Liberalism sees government as a referee. A referee will call a penalty when a player goes out of bounds --- but he doesn't actually play in the game.

And the left took the word "liberal" in order to hide their leftism........

 

[Silhouette]

ACLU Defends MILO and the Usual Libtard Suspects Attack The ACLU for Defending Free Speech

If you think cults are hard on non-members, hell hath no fury like the wrath they save for defectors..

 

[martybegan]

Which is the point our side has been making for the past few years, the current progressive movement isn't liberal in the classical sense, it is totalitarian.

The Progressive left is at a watershed moment. It will either go back toward classic liberalism or it will continue into leftwing fascism.

I am praying that they restore their classic liberal credentials.

That would mean that they would have to accept that some people 1) don't want to be changed and 2)shouldn't be changed unless there is a compelling societal interest in doing so.

My sig covers my view on such people, and to me they just can't stop being busybodies.