Zone1 Abortion and Transgender is Demonic

[Carl in Michigan]

He sees humans as inferior since they were created on the 6th day, whereas he was created on the first day

Mostly agree, but the angels/demons existed LONG before Man. I know that's off topic, but the time of the second verse of the Bible occurs long before the second verse

 

[Donald H]

None of this says God admits to a mistake ...

Why can't we treat the Bible as allegory? ... that makes no sense what-so-ever ... it's a book of spirituality, not flesh ... but to the point, why do you think happily married Christians who want children would seek an abortion? ... my point is if we follow the rules in the Bible concerning marriage, we wouldn't need abortions at all ... or condoms even if we're Catholic ... children are a blessing, each and every one ... but how do you measure that scientifically? ...

Anyway, you seem insistent on discussions of the flesh ... biologically, how should we be mating? ... like apes and harem style, like foxes where the vixen raises the kits alone ... like rats that just erupt from filth ... which? ... forget pond scum, they just divide, no fun a'tall ...

The god's mistake was in creating a corrupt earth and filling it with violence. He had to kill everything he supposedly created. That's called correcting his mistakes.

It just doesn't work for a perfect god does it!

None of it works literally and that's the reason why your latest excuse is saying that I'm talking about 'flesh'.

If you don't like the bible to be allegory then you have a right to make the lies spiritual. Same thing. just not literally true.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Forcing Others In Their Place Not To Upset The Balance Of Tradition "

* Willful Ignorance Of Wishful Thinking For Black And White Foolishness *

"Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviors and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time..." Note that gender does not confuse a man with a woman or a boy with a girl. A man is still male and a woman is still female. Their behaviors may differ like a tom girl playing with military toys but still is a girl with a vagina. A boy may play with dolls and still be a male with a penis. But, there are still two and only two genders. Male and female.

And a hermaphrodite is exactly what to you ?

Explain an XX male syndrome , where the genetic sex of the individual is female , while the phenotype is anywhere from female to male , or something in between .

A gender is a perception associating an individual with a socially constructed role of male , female , both , neither , or something in between , which can be a perception dissociated from the male or female genetic sex of an individual .

The sex of an individual is its genetic composition , which usually does , but does not always correlate with an actual male or female phenotype , and which can be modified by hormones , whether internally generated or externally administered - DAX1 - Wikipedia .

 

[alang1216]

Perhaps it wasn't you I have gone over this before, how Origen (184-253), an early Church Father, who recommended starting with the Book of Revelation and looking for the spiritual teachings behind all the myths, allegories, horror stories in the Bible. He used the example of the ban on the Amalekites, where everything in that town was to be destroyed, men, women, children, the best of the livestock...everything. If you are familiar with the story, we see that King Saul did not follow this ban--he kept a little of this, and some of that, right down to the king, the leader of the Amalekites. The prophet Samuel was furious when he arrived, and he, himself, hacked the Amalekite king into pieces.

Origen, pointed out the story is about what we, as average human beings, decide to keep what is rich, pleasurable, valuable in our own lives that prevent us from being holy and good. Instead of banning all that is evil from our lives, we keep some of this, a little of that to play around with because...what real harm can a little do? Take a look at future events...Amalekites began taking over again, just as a little sin can take over more and more of our own lives.

A good moral lesson for everyone but is this God's wisdom or man's? I suspect every culture/religion has a similar tale. I don't see God playing a very big role here. Almost as if he is the narrator in a Greek play.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps it wasn't you I have gone over this before, how Origen (184-253), an early Church Father, who recommended starting with the Book of Revelation and looking for the spiritual teachings behind all the myths, allegories, horror stories in the Bible. He used the example of the ban on the Amalekites, where everything in that town was to be destroyed, men, women, children, the best of the livestock...everything. If you are familiar with the story, we see that King Saul did not follow this ban--he kept a little of this, and some of that, right down to the king, the leader of the Amalekites. The prophet Samuel was furious when he arrived, and he, himself, hacked the Amalekite king into pieces.

Origen, pointed out the story is about what we, as average human beings, decide to keep what is rich, pleasurable, valuable in our own lives that prevent us from being holy and good. Instead of banning all that is evil from our lives, we keep some of this, a little of that to play around with because...what real harm can a little do? Take a look at future events...Amalekites began taking over again, just as a little sin can take over more and more of our own lives.

So Saul refuses to commit complete Genocide... and God is angry with him?

Hey, remind me again why God is the good guy in that story?

 

[Cougarbear]

Your theological interpretations are hardly proof of anything. Wasn't it Jesus who said "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword".

Ignorance is an atheists comfort zone. A sword of what? The interpretation I gave is true. Your opinion is demonic.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Situational Proffering Expeditious Excuses For Every Thing "

* Existentialism Perspective Of Projection Through Homonyms *

That's man-made religion, not God.

No thing can be separate from itself .

Perhaps explain magnanimous claims that hue mammon was made in an image of goad , versus genesis 1-29 " let us make man in OUR image " .

Have you viewed the great greek myths series , which is currently viewable on tubi , wherein decrees from zeus to other goads for creation of hue mammon males and eventually for creation of hue mammon females ?

 

[Meriweather]

A good moral lesson for everyone but is this God's wisdom or man's? I suspect every culture/religion has a similar tale. I don't see God playing a very big role here. Almost as if he is the narrator in a Greek play.

But then, you don't believe God is in our midst. As God is in our midst, why wouldn't we see similar stories throughout mankind?

 

[Meriweather]

So Saul refuses to commit complete Genocide... and God is angry with him?

According to the account, the prophet, Samuel, is angry. Samuel, the king-maker. First he has Saul as the king, and when Saul disappoints him, he brings in David. I know Samuel and David are the Old Testament heroes, but I've never been that fond of either. I also note that David wasn't allowed to build the Temple as he was considered to be a bloody king. I find that worth considering as well.

 

[SweetSue92]

The god's mistake was in creating a corrupt earth and filling it with violence. He had to kill everything he supposedly created. That's called correcting his mistakes.

It just doesn't work for a perfect god does it!

None of it works literally and that's the reason why your latest excuse is saying that I'm talking about 'flesh'.

If you don't like the bible to be allegory then you have a right to make the lies spiritual. Same thing. just not literally true.

He created earth perfect. Man fell and He still had a plan for all of it.

He saw it all, beginning to end.

It was worth it.

 

[SweetSue92]

But then, you don't believe God is in our midst. As God is in our midst, why wouldn't we see similar stories throughout mankind?

There's a Bible verse about this I can never put my finger on, because I'm terrible about Biblical "addresses".

But the gist is: God reveals Himself over time.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Folk Lore Of Free Will Versus Determinism Contradictions "

* Guilt Trip *

He created earth perfect. Man fell and He still had a plan for all of it.
He saw it all, beginning to end.
It was worth it.

Please clarify as to whether a reference to goad , as a he , is an allusion to gender or to sex .

 

[JoeB131]

According to the account, the prophet, Samuel, is angry. Samuel, the king-maker. First he has Saul as the king, and when Saul disappoints him, he brings in David. I know Samuel and David are the Old Testament heroes, but I've never been that fond of either. I also note that David wasn't allowed to build the Temple as he was considered to be a bloody king. I find that worth considering as well.

Wow, this sounds like a cop-out.

"(Insert Bible Hero here) was an instrument of God, unless he did something that would offend modern audiences."

I often say, what Christianity needs to do is hire Disney to modernize the bible. Take out all the icky parts, leave in the nice parts, throw in a little bit of woke, and everyone will be happy.

 

[Meriweather]

Wow, this sounds like a cop-out.

"(Insert Bible Hero here) was an instrument of God, unless he did something that would offend modern audiences."

It would sound like that to you. In fact, my sympathies lie more with Saul than with Samuel and David. Guess why? Because like Saul, I have this habit of giving the worst of the worst yet another chance and have it come back and stab me in the back.

So, yes, Joe. While I was praying for you and your mother in church, I just knew I would come home and at some point today--or maybe tomorrow--find your knife in my back once again.

As I said, my sympathies are with Saul while at the same time understanding the nation--the world--needed Samuel and David. May you meet your own Samuel and David.

 

[JoeB131]

It would sound like that to you. In fact, my sympathies lie more with Saul than with Samuel and David. Guess why? Because like Saul, I have this habit of giving the worst of the worst yet another chance and have it come back and stab me in the back.

So, yes, Joe. While I was praying for you and your mother in church, I just knew I would come home and at some point today--or maybe tomorrow--find your knife in my back once again.

As I said, my sympathies are with Saul while at the same time understanding the nation--the world--needed Samuel and David. May you meet your own Samuel and David.

Yes, I'm a bad person because I rejected a Church that brought me nothing but misery for the first third of my life.

Praying is too much like groveling. I don't grovel, especially in front of things I don't think exist.

(I actually did go to church this morning with my wife, who belongs to a Chinese congregation. I find Church immensely more enjoyable if you don't understand what they are saying.)

All of which is avoiding my point.

The Old Testament is full of people just doing horrible stuff to each other. Stuff that would get you thrown into a padded cell or a prison today. Slavery, Genocide, etc.

God didn't smite David for committing genocide, but he did smite his baby for being born out of sin. He smote the people of Israel because David took a census that God ordered. He smote 42 small children for making fun of a bald prophet. (I mean, yeah, I don't like it when people make bald jokes to me, but I wouldn't want to sic bears on them.)

 

[Meriweather]

Yes, I'm a bad person because I rejected a Church that brought me nothing but misery for the first third of my life.

The first third of your life would be the school days. Had you been in public schools, you would now be blaming them for the fact no one could properly comfort you after your mother died. You've never faced the fact that you were miserable so you you were making sure others were as miserable as you. After all, this was all about you, never about anyone else and what you were putting them through.

Praying is too much like groveling. I don't grovel, especially in front of things I don't think exist.

I see...except what I see is that you have no inkling of what prayer is. And that you brought your misery into prayer as well.

All of which is avoiding my point.

The Old Testament is full of people just doing horrible stuff to each other. Stuff that would get you thrown into a padded cell or a prison today. Slavery, Genocide, etc.

Again, the misery. All you see is misery.

God didn't smite David for committing genocide, but he did smite his baby for being born out of sin. He smote the people of Israel because David took a census that God ordered. He smote 42 small children for making fun of a bald prophet. (I mean, yeah, I don't like it when people make bald jokes to me, but I wouldn't want to sic bears on them.)

Before modern medicine, 20% died in infancy. You also have the story of the bald prophet wrong. Your own misery was always on display, and heaven help those who did not bow down to you and make you and your feelings the number one priority in life. Those who tried you judged and slapped down, plotting out ways to insure they were miserable in your presence.

Seriously, Joe. It's like you never heard/saw the verses where Jesus taught sin had nothing to do with misfortune. Probably because those verses would have made you feel better had you ever taken note of them. Couldn't have that, could you.

Finally, you are not a bad person because you rejected the Church. Quite simply, you were/are a bad person and therefore rejected the Church. For once, get it straight.

 

[alang1216]

Ignorance is an atheists comfort zone. A sword of what? The interpretation I gave is true. Your opinion is demonic.

I think you have it backwards, there is nothing more comforting than ignoring the errors and contradictions in scripture. As for you interpretation, the Bible is like a Rorschach image, you can see anything in it you want to see.

 

[Donald H]

The first third of your life would be the school days. Had you been in public schools, you would now be blaming them for the fact no one could properly comfort you after your mother died. You've never faced the fact that you were miserable so you you were making sure others were as miserable as you. After all, this was all about you, never about anyone else and what you were putting them through.

I see...except what I see is that you have no inkling of what prayer is. And that you brought your misery into prayer as well.

Again, the misery. All you see is misery.

Before modern medicine, 20% died in infancy. You also have the story of the bald prophet wrong. Your own misery was always on display, and heaven help those who did not bow down to you and make you and your feelings the number one priority in life. Those who tried you judged and slapped down, plotting out ways to insure they were miserable in your presence.

Seriously, Joe. It's like you never heard/saw the verses where Jesus taught sin had nothing to do with misfortune. Probably because those verses would have made you feel better had you ever taken note of them. Couldn't have that, could you.

Finally, you are not a bad person because you rejected the Church. Quite simply, you were/are a bad person and therefore rejected the Church. For once, get it straight.

Joe thought that the bibles were the literal truth and he correctly reasoned that it was all lies and impossibilities.

During the first third of his life there was no direction given by the church to accept it all as allegory. That didn't become necessary until midway through his middle third of his life. If we say that Joe is about 60 to 80, then what can be guessed about Joe, is common to all of his age.

Joe would have been stung by stories such as Noah's ark and the great flood, and there was nobody in his church delegated to telling the flock that none of the contents of the bibles are intended to be true. You and others like you, weren't there to guide him with the new belief system.

Only later in Joe's life the church decided that it needed to gamble on telling the truth on the bible being allegorical stories.

It became a choice of how religion could lose the least number of sheep. Joe won't be going back. Once stung.....................

 

[hobelim]

He smote 42 small children for making fun of a bald prophet. (I mean, yeah, I don't like it when people make bald jokes to me, but I wouldn't want to sic bears on them.)

lol.. After Elijah's departure, Elisha was mocked by a group of young men who called him "baldie" as he was walking to Bethel. Elisha turned around, cursed them in the name of the Lord, and then two "she bears" came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the boys.

The she bears were probably female teachers of the small children who excoriated (mauled) them for being juvenile dickheads... Where else but a school would that many small children be gathered? So relax. They were killed in the same way you were afraid of being killed by your parents if you ever defied them or failed a class.

If all you can see is that God is a meanie, a petty tyrant, that's a shame. You are being lazy. You should humble yourself and approach the stories like a child reading a fairy tale trying to learn the moral teaching of the story.

Its not rocket science, a mysterious arcane concept, or an impossible feat, but it changes everything.


Sincerely,

Hobelim, Son of Meanie.

 

[Cougarbear]

I think you have it backwards, there is nothing more comforting than ignoring the errors and contradictions in scripture. As for you interpretation, the Bible is like a Rorschach image, you can see anything in it you want to see.

That's what you are doing. You see what you want and do not interpret the words correctly. Normalcy bias is what I call this on you.