Trickster
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So, redefining the crime of murder to it no longer being crime, but just "misdemeanor" would reduce the number of murders?
If you believe murder is just a misdemeanor you are demonic.
Zone1 Abortion and Transgender is Demonic
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If you believe murder is just a misdemeanor you are demonic.
Abortion is a complex issue with competing human rights. I'm sorry you can't see that and I'm sorry you are taking such a hardline unreasonable stance. Apparently you would rather have abortions banned rather than making them a misdemeanor.
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" Homicidal Cry Babies Blubbering Oh The Humanity As Lunar Tick Hypocrites "
* Conscientious Objection Of Due You Mind *
It is despicable that fools such as yourself dehumanize the suffering of others , slaves for example , and pretend that suffering is not a requirement for empathy to be valid .
* Conscientious Objection Of Due You Mind *
The fetus is without constitutional protections and is private property of the mother , as self ownership through progeny from principles of individualism .
It is despicable that fools such as yourself dehumanize the suffering of others , slaves for example , and pretend that suffering is not a requirement for empathy to be valid .
I think you are having a hard time reconciling your beliefs with history.
Monk-Eye
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" Sorry No Intention Of Living In Nut Job Land "
* Little Girl Gets Feeling Hurt Through Empathy For A Plastic Baby Doll *
* Little Girl Gets Feeling Hurt Through Empathy For A Plastic Baby Doll *
And you believe the fluff of your nonsense retorts account for relevance based on volume .
Trickster
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It really is not complex at all. Abortion is a very good thing. It is "complex" to you because you clearly have not fully thought through your argument;
You claim ZEFs are persons with individual rights and that abortion therefore is murder. But, somehow it should not be criminal. It dies not add up at all.
Your argument is a real misdemeanor.
Trickster
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The implication here is that you view what the Nazis did as a "misdemeanor".
You cooked yourself.
That would be incorrect but I love how you are arguing that you believe I should believe the penalty for abortion should be equal to that of murder.
The abortion issue is complex. I'm sorry you can't see that.
The only fluff is you believing you aren't treating life in the womb as property so that they can be killed without remorse and that you aren't dehumanizing life in the womb so that they can be killed without remorse.
Let's look at the history of crimes and punishment for abortion for some context.
Prior to Roe v. Wade, abortion was illegal in most states, and penalties for performing or "furnishing the means for" an abortion could include imprisonment, though women were rarely prosecuted for having an abortion themselves.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Prior to Roe v. Wade, abortion was illegal in most states, and penalties for performing or "furnishing the means for" an abortion could include imprisonment, though women were rarely prosecuted for having an abortion themselves.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
- Criminalization:
By the late 19th century, most states had criminalized abortion, with some exceptions to save the life of the pregnant woman.
- Targeting Providers:
Laws often targeted those who performed abortions rather than the women seeking them.
- Enforcement:
Enforcement of these laws was inconsistent and often focused on providers, especially when a woman died as a result of the procedure.
- Rare Prosecution of Women:
While statutes prohibited abortion, women were rarely prosecuted for having one.
- Penalties for Providers:
Those who performed or aided in abortions faced penalties, which could include imprisonment.
- Exceptions:
Some states allowed abortions if the woman's life was in danger or if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest.
- Quickening:
Some states distinguished between abortions before and after "quickening" (when the mother could feel the fetus move), with later abortions being more severely penalized.
- Before 1973:
By 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, abortion was illegal in most states, except in specific circumstances.
Trickster
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Isn't your argument that abortion is murder?
No, even though technically it fits the definition. My argument is that it is wrong and should be recognized as such. My argument is that due to the complexity of the issue, the punishment should be minimal such as a class "C" misdemeanor with no jail time.
Trickster
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What do you mean "technically"?
This is so, so, so incredibly stupid. None of this adds up.
You say:
ZEFs are persons.
Therefore killing them is murder.
Murder, but it should not be charged as such though.
Huh?
"Buuut, it is not actually, like, murder-murder, just, like technical murder."
Youare all over the place.
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Real or not, his part in the play has been written in the bibles and he supports the most horrifying evils and carries them out with his own hands.
But you support your imaginary god?
Much of America's problems with abortion is that they never stop to consider solutions but always quickly jump ahead to recommending punishment.
Yours isn't a death sentence! Good for you if you're being an honest Christian?
Trickster
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What happened? You went from cocky and confident with citations about DNA and a loud mouth to crooking that straight back to hide in the corner like an ashamed dog after pooping on the carpet.
You went from "here is the science -- it is murder" to "actually, it is kinda complex, I guess we could call it misdemeanor."
Like I pointed out several pages back, you are hiding behind "biology" to make arguments against abortion because you know how terribly horrible of an argument your real reason ("'cos god said so") actually is. Thus when pushed on it you crumble apart.
You do not actually believe zygotes are persons. You do not actually believe abortion is murder. If you actually did there would not be any complexity at all and you would not stick to calling it a "misdemeanor".
You are full of sh-t and a demonic misogynist.
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" Sadistic Sick Fuck Clucks Misdemeanors And Branding Irons "
* Freak Farmer Fanatics Selling Hypocrisy For Heresy Against Antinomianism *
Of very great significance is a difference between one individual inflicting suffering upon another individual , and the suffering an individual inflicts upon themselves .
The angst of grief from physical and mental suffering , by those subjugated to the whimsy or indifference to cruelty by despots or masters , is of very great significance .
Prior to development for a physical capacity to suffer , empathy for physical or mental suffering by a fetus is not valid .
Without constitutional protections a fetus is private property of the mother ; comparatively , non hue mammon animals are without constitutional protections and are regarded as private property .
Because an individual can be charged , with a civil infraction of animal cruelty , does not bequeath constitutional protections to a non hue mammon animal , though it does reiterate that , for empathy to be valid , a capacity for mental and physical suffering must exist .
It is yearn affliction to stigmatize , to castigate , to humiliate , to punish , to dehumanize , to cause mental suffering in those dealing with developmental anomalies ; an approximate 6% of all abortions occur post 13 weeks , when ultrasound and amniocentesis are applied to diagnose developmental anomalies in the fetus .
By objective analysis , a notion of enslavement , as being a bad thing , when considering limits of alternative advantage and opportunities through pedagogy , could depend on whether the experience is agreeable to the submissive .
The principles of individualism stipulate that an individual is not able to surrender self determination ( free roam , free association , progeny ) to settle a debt incurred through self determination ( private property , willful intents by social civil contract - made valid through informed consent ) .
So save the banal fluff of a little girl drama of projecting empathy for pain to her plastic baby doll .
* Freak Farmer Fanatics Selling Hypocrisy For Heresy Against Antinomianism *
That presentation is more fluff for FAILING to correlate a validity for empathy with a dependence on a capacity for mental and physical suffering .
Of very great significance is a difference between one individual inflicting suffering upon another individual , and the suffering an individual inflicts upon themselves .
The angst of grief from physical and mental suffering , by those subjugated to the whimsy or indifference to cruelty by despots or masters , is of very great significance .
Prior to development for a physical capacity to suffer , empathy for physical or mental suffering by a fetus is not valid .
Without constitutional protections a fetus is private property of the mother ; comparatively , non hue mammon animals are without constitutional protections and are regarded as private property .
Because an individual can be charged , with a civil infraction of animal cruelty , does not bequeath constitutional protections to a non hue mammon animal , though it does reiterate that , for empathy to be valid , a capacity for mental and physical suffering must exist .
It is yearn affliction to stigmatize , to castigate , to humiliate , to punish , to dehumanize , to cause mental suffering in those dealing with developmental anomalies ; an approximate 6% of all abortions occur post 13 weeks , when ultrasound and amniocentesis are applied to diagnose developmental anomalies in the fetus .
By objective analysis , a notion of enslavement , as being a bad thing , when considering limits of alternative advantage and opportunities through pedagogy , could depend on whether the experience is agreeable to the submissive .
The principles of individualism stipulate that an individual is not able to surrender self determination ( free roam , free association , progeny ) to settle a debt incurred through self determination ( private property , willful intents by social civil contract - made valid through informed consent ) .
So save the banal fluff of a little girl drama of projecting empathy for pain to her plastic baby doll .
kjw47
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What are those? False reasonings of ones who desire to sin?" Vanity Of Naked Beauty Turned Into A Prudish Vice "
* Cult Of Good Versus Evil Devised In Syncretism From Celestial Religion *
Good luck escaping gravity of the celestial moon goad and good luck escaping the extrapolation of celestial deities into an over simplified paradigm for good versus evil .
Sin (/ˈsiːn/) or Suen (Akkadian: 𒀭𒂗𒍪, dEN.ZU[1]) also known as Nanna (Sumerian: 𒀭𒋀𒆠 DŠEŠ.KI, DNANNA[2]) is the Mesopotamian god representing the moon.
Sin (mythology) - Wikipedia
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Additionally, the name of the moon god could be represented by logograms reflecting his lunar character, such as d30 (𒀭𒌍), referring to days in the lunar month or dU4.SAKAR (𒀭𒌓𒊬), derived from a term referring to the crescent. In addition to his astral role, Sin was also closely associated with cattle herding.
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When depicted anthropomorphically, he typically either wore headwear decorated with it or held a staff topped with it, though on kudurru the crescent alone serves as a representation of him. He was also associated with boats.
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The main cult center of Sin was Ur.
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While it is agreed that the two primary names of the Mesopotamian moon god, Nanna and Sin (Suen), originated in two different languages, respectively Sumerian and Akkadian, it is not possible to differentiate between them as designations of separate deities, as they effectively fully merged at an early date.[3]
* Luciferian Cult Personifying Vanity Of Venus Radiance As Inferior Planet Rivaling Brightness Of Jupiter *
In celestial mythology , the apparent brightness of venus rivaled that of jupiter , and some sun stroked numb skull in a desert eating psilocybn personified the brightness as venus with vanity of its celestial deity lucifer , and devised some dumb shit conjecturing that lucifer was cast down from high heavens by the king of celestial deities , zeus of jupiter ; venus is an inferior planet which means it is not in high heavens with respect to the orbit of earth .
The idiots plagiarized the mythology about prometheus and turned it into a psychosis .
Latin word lucifer (uncapitalized),[3][4] meaning "the morning star", "the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".[5]
Lucifer - Wikipedia
He is best known for defying the Olympian gods by taking fire from them and giving it to humanity in the form of technology, knowledge and, more generally, civilization.
Prometheus - Wikipedia
The punishment of Prometheus for stealing fire from Olympus and giving it to humans is a subject of both ancient and modern culture. Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, condemned Prometheus to eternal torment for his transgression.
* I Slam A Phobia *
Both elements of the symbol have a long history in the iconography of the Ancient Near East as representing either the Sun and Moon or the Moon and Venus (Morning Star) (or their divine personifications).
Star and crescent - Wikipedia
* Right And Left Are Antonyms - Catch Up *
You understand neither the words nor the subjects about which you are so smug, so sanctimoniously dogmatic.
When the Law is taken literally it creates an image and likeness of God comparable to that of a puerile and capricious lecherous petty tyrant whose concerns for human beings are carnal; diet, fashion, and the sexual preferences of consenting adults, and "believers', like you, will strive to reflect that in their words and deeds.
I would never advocate the worship or even pretend to worship such a reprehensible being. But that's just me.
When a person takes the three seconds required to decipher the deeper implications of the exact same Law as revealed by the command to "eat my flesh" it creates an image and likeness of God comparable to that of a dedicated loving wise and benevolent Father and 'believers' will strive to reflect that in their thoughts and deeds.
So, do you think that abortion is a sin? Unmarried sex? Jerking off? Anal sex? Being attracted to the same sex? Not believing in the maudlin bullshit about a "little flock"
that you have swallowed, hook, line, and sinker?Is that what your God is all about? It's about the same as a human being being obsessed with the sexual practices of an amoeba and torturing them if they stray from what he thinks they should do. If so you have allowed satan to enter your mind to perpetuate the same irrational lies that Jesus lived and died opposing. Numbskull.
To mislead others, whether you have made great errors in your own speculations or whether you have been misled yourself, to adopt your perverse views of God amounts to intentional murder. Like "satan was a murderer from the beginning" (of the fairy tale), condemning many to live under a crippling delusion for their entire lives.
So if I were you I would be silent. STFU. Worry about yourself and how you are going to escape the hell you are already in. You have set aside the commands of God and teach others to do the same, which amounts to murder.
YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY
"The death", a curse, the consequence for YOUR sins. Do yourself a favor. Mind your own business. Hypocrite.
Take this flesh and eat it. This is the fruit of my mind. It is pleasing to the eye and good to eat... so just eat it.
Unless you eat it you will never know what it is to live.
Have a nice day. Perv.
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