A triple headline piece in the New York Times.

[Seymour Flops]

You left off the second part, thus my respsone.

I did not leave it off. You said it takes more than ability, and I said ability and effort.

So it takes ability and effort to succeed. It doesn't take being white or male or binary or having a rich daddy.

In other words, both America and American individuals have the opportunity to be great again. Again.

 

[Seymour Flops]

as I have told you, being better than Biden is just your bar, not mine.

No that's the bar for the upcoming election.

Being better than Biden can still be a negative for the country.

No it's a positive if Biden is replaced with a better president.

You need to up your standards and quit accepting the shit your beloved party tells you to vote for

And vote for whom?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What are your specific criticisms of Biden?

Are you afraid to name them because of backlash from your fellow TDS guys?

lets see...in no particular order

vaccine mandate was wrong.

student loan forgiveness was wrong

getting us out of Afghanistan was right, how he did it was the worst possible way

the COVID bill kept UE extra payments going to long

the border is a ******* mess

wanting for even more money for Ukraine

crazy out of control spending

pushing for assault weapon ban


There, that is 9 things just off the top of my head. That is 9 more things than you have said bad about Trump

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So it takes ability and effort to succeed. It doesn't take being white or male or binary or having a rich daddy.

Well being white and having a rich daddy can help one succeed while not having the those two.

Think of Hunter Biden or Donny Jr and Eric as living examples.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No that's the bar for the upcoming election.

because people like you from both parties allow it to be

No it's a positive if Biden is replaced with a better president.

His opponent is not a better president, that is the problem

And vote for whom?

anyone but the duopoly.

 

[Seymour Flops]

lets see...in no particular order

vaccine mandate was wrong.

student loan forgiveness was wrong

getting us out of Afghanistan was right, how he did it was the worst possible way

the COVID bill kept UE extra payments going to long

the border is a ******* mess

wanting for even more money for Ukraine

crazy out of control spending

pushing for assault weapon ban


There, that is 9 things just off the top of my head. That is 9 more things than you have said bad about Trump

Well done!

Staying home on election day?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Well done!

Staying home on election day?

Of course, I will mail in my ballot long before election day.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Of course, I will mail in my ballot long before election day.

Your ballot proudly marked for whom? There will be no option for "anyone but the two parties."

Skipping the step of you dodging that question again, I'll say why I ask:

You will be voting for a human being, unless you mean to mail in a write in "none of the above" ballot.

That human being will be flawed, and would come under the same reputation destroying attacks as Trump if they had a chance at usurping the Democrats' chosen president. Then you would be just as afraid to defend that candidate.

That's the reason I ask and also the reason you refuse to answer.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You ballot proudly marked for whom?

do not know yet. Right now not all the candidate are set.

Last time it was Jo Jorgensen

Skipping the step of you dodging that question again, I'll say why I ask:

You will be voting for a human being, unless you mean to mail in a write in "none of the above" ballot.

But of course I will vote for a human being.

That human being will be flawed, and would come under the same reputation destroying attacks as Trump if they had a chance at usurping the Democrats' chosen president. Then you would be just as afraid to defend that candidate.

I am not afraid to defend anyone. You are the one that has to do all he can to avoid angering the majority of the board by ever saying an ill word about Trump. You really should stop your projecting, it just makes you look even more weak than normal.

Whomever I vote for will be a far better candidate than Trump or Biden.

 

[Seymour Flops]

do not know yet. Right now not all the candidate are set.

Last time it was Jo Jorgensen.

So you are waiting to be told who to vote for.

I am not afraid to defend anyone. You are the one that has to do all he can to avoid angering the majority of the board by ever saying an ill word about Trump. You really should stop your projecting, it just makes you look even more weak than normal.

I criticize Trump when criticism is warranted. What I don't do is make childish statements like "he ******* sucks. He never does ANYTHING right!"

I don't say that about Biden or Trump because I'm a thinker not an emotional geezer going through some second childhood. I criticize specific things he does.

Whomever I vote for will be a far better candidate than Trump or Biden.

Not if they have no realistic chance of winning. You could vote for yourself but what's the point? Same goes for any candidate who can't win.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So you are waiting to be told who to vote for.

No, I am waiting to see who is on the ballot.

I criticize Trump when criticism is warranted.

which in my experience has been NEVER. But I am sure it might happen one day, maybe...

Not if they have no realistic chance of winning. You could vote for yourself but what's the point? Same goes for any candidate who can't win.

Any candidate can win if people vote for them. This is how the old circular reasoning goes with third party candidates....

third party candidates cannot win because nobody will vote for them, and nobody will vote for them because they cannot win.

Let me ask you this, the people in Cali that vote for Trump, are they wasting their vote since he has no realistic chance of winning the state, and in our system that is all that matters.

and the people in Wyoming that vote for Biden, are they wasting their vote since he has no realistic chance of winning the state, and in our system that is all that matters.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No, I am waiting to see who is on the ballot.

which in my experience has been NEVER. But I am sure it might happen one day, maybe...

You must not read my posts, then. I have suspected as much from your non sequitor answers.

Any candidate can win if people vote for them. This is how the old circular reasoning goes with third party candidates....

third party candidates cannot win because nobody will vote for them, and nobody will vote for them because they cannot win.

A sad fact of life, but a fact nonetheless. We will almost be asked to choose between two candidates who can win, with the option of wasting our vote on a third party if we really want to. Your vote will not make a difference if you go that route. Not yours and everyone else who votes for the Socialist Workers Party, or the Forward Party, or whoever you have in mind. All will be wasted.

Let me ask you this, the people in Cali that vote for Trump, are they wasting their vote since he has no realistic chance of winning the state, and in our system that is all that matters.

No, because the Democrats will be combining with all the other Biden or Newsom or Michelle Obama voters to give California to their candidate. Trump voters will try to do the same. California going for the Democrat is far from a foregone conclusion. California went to Reagan in 1980 because the Democrat incumbent was almost as bad as Biden. Almost. There must be plenty of people in the once proud city of San Francisco ready to say "Mean tweets be damned! We don't want another for years of this literall shit."

Imagine a Biden supporter in California thinking 'Trump can't win this state anyway, and my favorite third party could use a boost, so I'll vote for the guy in the yellow hat,' or whoever. Then Biden loses California but by fewer votes than Mr. Yellow Hat siphoned off.

Doh! America will be great again, much to the chagrin of the left.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

California going for the Democrat is far from a foregone conclusion.

Let me clue you in, Trump lost by more votes in Cali than Jo did in Illinois.

You are honestly clueless to reality.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Let me clue you in, Trump lost by more votes in Cali than Jo did in Illinois.

You are honestly clueless to reality.

LoLoLoL!

That was before 4 years of Biden.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

LoLoLoL!

That was before 4 years of Biden.

Yeah, Trump has a great chance to win Cali!

Next tell me about the great chance Biden has to win Wyoming!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yeah, Trump has a great chance to win Cali!
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Next tell me about the great chance Biden has to win Wyoming!

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