95% Of IT Pros QUESTION Election Booth Security

[hadit]

If that were to happen, they'd blame the Democrats first and often. So what does it matter? Why not hack the returns from Texas?

They have to get their rationalization straight as to why Drumpf lost. First they say that liberals are too stupid now they claim all liberals are professional hackers.

That's kind of a stupid complaint. Any IT savvy person (that is a bunch of professionals and virtually any kid under the age of 14) knows it only takes one hacker to break into a data store and alter its contents. The majority of self identified liberals are not above average in intelligence.

Here's an IT reality. There is NO data repository connected in any way to the internet that is totally safe from breach. None. The best you can hope for is to make breaching it take long enough that a hacker will give up and attack an easier target.

If you really want to make electronic voting as secure as possible, print a paper receipt for the voter so he can go online later and verify that his recorded vote matches his receipt. It wouldn't stop fraud and wouldn't stop democrats from registering dead voters, but it would at least let a voter know that his vote was recorded accurately.

I disagree. All you need to do is route the date via VPN. The data is automatically encrypted and would take too long to decrypt in order to effect an election. That would also stop any man in the middle attacks as the session itself is encrypted. I agree we should have some sort of check but that wont work too well if someone decides to change their vote because they had second thoughts.

I agree with the immediate tallying that would take too long to hack. How about three non-partisan accounting firms all obtaining a copy of the e-ballots which can then be compared for mismatches and fraud? The vulnerability there is the early voting, which in some cases goes on for a month before the election. Once voting is done electronically, we could make a strong case that early voting be eliminated.

The same goes for registering dead voters. It should be relatively easy for there to be a check against the SSN Administrations records that would disallow an attempt to register someone that was already dead.

You would think it would be that easy, yet attempts to purge the rolls of dead voters seem to often be opposed.

 

[BULLDOG]

They have to get their rationalization straight as to why Drumpf lost. First they say that liberals are too stupid now they claim all liberals are professional hackers.

That's kind of a stupid complaint. Any IT savvy person (that is a bunch of professionals and virtually any kid under the age of 14) knows it only takes one hacker to break into a data store and alter its contents. The majority of self identified liberals are not above average in intelligence.

Here's an IT reality. There is NO data repository connected in any way to the internet that is totally safe from breach. None. The best you can hope for is to make breaching it take long enough that a hacker will give up and attack an easier target.

If you really want to make electronic voting as secure as possible, print a paper receipt for the voter so he can go online later and verify that his recorded vote matches his receipt. It wouldn't stop fraud and wouldn't stop democrats from registering dead voters, but it would at least let a voter know that his vote was recorded accurately.

I disagree. All you need to do is route the date via VPN. The data is automatically encrypted and would take too long to decrypt in order to effect an election. That would also stop any man in the middle attacks as the session itself is encrypted. I agree we should have some sort of check but that wont work too well if someone decides to change their vote because they had second thoughts.

I agree with the immediate tallying that would take too long to hack. How about three non-partisan accounting firms all obtaining a copy of the e-ballots which can then be compared for mismatches and fraud? The vulnerability there is the early voting, which in some cases goes on for a month before the election. Once voting is done electronically, we could make a strong case that early voting be eliminated.

The same goes for registering dead voters. It should be relatively easy for there to be a check against the SSN Administrations records that would disallow an attempt to register someone that was already dead.

You would think it would be that easy, yet attempts to purge the rolls of dead voters seem to often be opposed.

I'm not aware of any opposition to purging the rolls of dead people. There have been lots of problems with living people being dropped along with the dead. There has been opposition to that.

 

[OKTexas]

So a self selected web page poll. The polls taken here are more scientific and accurate at reflecting opinions. You don't know that?

The article is by one of the leading PC security companies in the world. You can take it or leave it, I don't give a crap.

The survey was from people who decided to click on one of a couple of buttons after reading articles about possible security problems with voting machines. Most participants probably weren't even IT professionals. Just people who clicked on an article about voting machine security with a pessimistic view. Right wingers will believe anything as long as it matches their preconceived beliefs.

No dipstick, those people aren't IT professionals, are they? They're two separate polls, I don't even consider user polls, polls, they're opinion surveys.

 

[candycorn]

They have to get their rationalization straight as to why Drumpf lost. First they say that liberals are too stupid now they claim all liberals are professional hackers.

That's kind of a stupid complaint. Any IT savvy person (that is a bunch of professionals and virtually any kid under the age of 14) knows it only takes one hacker to break into a data store and alter its contents. The majority of self identified liberals are not above average in intelligence.

Here's an IT reality. There is NO data repository connected in any way to the internet that is totally safe from breach. None. The best you can hope for is to make breaching it take long enough that a hacker will give up and attack an easier target.

If you really want to make electronic voting as secure as possible, print a paper receipt for the voter so he can go online later and verify that his recorded vote matches his receipt. It wouldn't stop fraud and wouldn't stop democrats from registering dead voters, but it would at least let a voter know that his vote was recorded accurately.

I disagree. All you need to do is route the date via VPN. The data is automatically encrypted and would take too long to decrypt in order to effect an election. That would also stop any man in the middle attacks as the session itself is encrypted. I agree we should have some sort of check but that wont work too well if someone decides to change their vote because they had second thoughts.

I agree with the immediate tallying that would take too long to hack. How about three non-partisan accounting firms all obtaining a copy of the e-ballots which can then be compared for mismatches and fraud? The vulnerability there is the early voting, which in some cases goes on for a month before the election. Once voting is done electronically, we could make a strong case that early voting be eliminated.

The same goes for registering dead voters. It should be relatively easy for there to be a check against the SSN Administrations records that would disallow an attempt to register someone that was already dead.

You would think it would be that easy, yet attempts to purge the rolls of dead voters seem to often be opposed.

Not necessarily.

When you hear about politicians talking about “cutting spending to the bone” as they often times say, these are the stakes. You can have a cheap government or you can have a responsive one. Most often the choices are between something like funding a clerk for 40-50 grand a year and having them match up death certificates with voter registration records and not funding such a person.

The really hilarious thing is that in 50 of the states, there are Republicans sitting in the governor mansions…. This is THEIR job, not the job of the Democratic, Republican, Libertarian or any other political party. This sits firmly on the State governments and is, almost always, a fully encompassed duty of the executive. The legislature usually has zero input on this.

 

[easyt65]

Yeah, to make the whole voting system / process SAFE and ensure there is no corruption that takes place what we REALLY need to do is hand over the entire election to the Obama administration and entrust Barry and his DHS with the validity of the election.



Sorry - I thought I could type / say all that without busting out laughing.

 

[BlindBoo]

Depends on the hardware and the software doesn't it? Do they connect to the internet to upload the results? Do they store it on a data card and send the cards to be processed some where? Are the machines networked? Who has access to the machines?

Questions, questions, questions.