8 UFO Experts Now Mysteriously Vanished Missing Or Dead

[Ringo]

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Jewish space lasers strike yet again.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

They're being beamed up by Scotty.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

This has lizard people written all over it

 

[leftwinger]

//Another one? Reported today. But this one was 2024? What are they up to now? 14? seems odd? Oh, well. games on.//

In yet another shocking development that fits a disturbing pattern of scientist and UFO research-related deaths, would-be whistleblower Matthew James Sullivan, a highly decorated 39-year-old Air Force veteran with top-secret clearances, died of an “accidental” drug overdose just months after agreeing to testify before Congress about the U.S. government’s secret “legacy” UFO crash retrieval programs.​

Sullivan was found dead at his home in Falls Church, Virginia, on May 12, 2024, only weeks after he committed to appear at congressional hearings scheduled for that November.

Air Force Veteran Died in an 'Accidental' Drug Overdose Just Months After Agreeing to Testify Before Congress About Secret Government UFO Crash Retrieval Programs | The Gateway Pundit | by Cassandra MacDonald

In yet another shocking development that fits a disturbing pattern of scientist and UFO research-related deaths, would-be whistleblower Matthew James Sullivan, a highly decorated 39-year-old Air Force veteran with top-secret clearances, died of an “accidental” drug overdose just months after...

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[Gary Seven]

It's probably way more than that.
I know of a few myself.
I actually grew up in a huge UFO hotspot in the 1980's and into the 1990's. I saw things. Friends saw things. Many people there saw things; People of all walks of life who didnt know each other , even local cops. One of the people who investigated it officially was J. Allen Hynek, who died of a brain tumor at 75. Dying at 75 isn't that uncommon, but brain tumors ARE somewhat uncommon

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There was also a woman, a kind of flakey hippie type who investigated it informally. She went by the name Ellen Crystal. She used to come up to our neck of the woods in NY from NJ, rallying curious believers to organize groups to observe the skies and local fields for phenomena. Her thing seemed to revolve around building a cult who was absolutely sold on the phenomena being the work of extraterrestrials. She claimed.ed she actually saw them. I personally have come to think Ellen may have actually been CIA or something, with a mission to create E.T. based folklore which would distract people from thinking it was simply the government behind these star ge sightings. Ellen died of pancreatic cancer at a fairly young age, 40's or 50's I think.

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Anyhow, it occurred to me...what of Ellen Crystall and many of these people were not real people at all but CIA ACTORS, and their deaths were faked I order.to delh er the message "don't **** around and stick your nose in those stuff or you'll end up like them". Maybe Ellen and some people like her are actually living out their lives in luxurious under their TRUE names, while only the people they portrayed as part of their missions of misinformation are actually dead.

I sure some of the people in the OP are actually dead though, and that sinister reasons for it remain hidden deep in the closet.

 

[toobfreak]

I actually grew up in a huge UFO hotspot in the 1980's and into the 1990's. I saw things. Friends saw things. Many people there saw things; People of all walks of life who didnt know each other , even local cops.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again: I'm a trained observer who spent many years outside studying the night sky (astronomy), and you see things, like in the late 60s out one summer night. To look up, it was just another starry night with nothing to see going on, but this one particular night I was out with my first telescope panning the sky at about 30 power (low power wide field) and I came across a group of 3 UFOs doing stuff nothing on this Earth according to every science law we know cannot do yet they were doing them.

I've seen other things, about half which I can rationalize as probably this or that, while the other half are not so easy to dismiss, plus one or two credible 3rd party stories.

But from what I KNOW I SAW that one night in about 1968, either UFOs from other planets are real, or the US government (or someone here on Earth) has technology 1000 years ahead of F-35s and B2 Bombers and A-10 Warthogs, because,

No aircraft on this planet or anything within our known physical laws can make instantaneous changes in speed and/or direction.

But these three things did. SOMETHING is out there, doing stuff that by our known physical laws say cannot even be done.

 

[Gary Seven]

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again: I'm a trained observer who spent many years outside studying the night sky (astronomy), and you see things, like in the late 60s out one summer night. To look up, it was just another starry night with nothing to see going on, but this one particular night I was out with my first telescope panning the sky at about 30 power (low power wide field) and I came across a group of 3 UFOs doing stuff nothing on this Earth according to every science law we know cannot do yet they were doing them.

I've seen other things, about half which I can rationalize as probably this or that, while the other half are not so easy to dismiss, plus one or two credible 3rd party stories.

But from what I KNOW I SAW that one night in about 1968, either UFOs from other planets are real, or the US government (or someone here on Earth) has technology 1000 years ahead of F-35s and B2 Bombers and A-10 Warthogs, because,

No aircraft on this planet or anything within our known physical laws can make instantaneous changes in speed and/or direction.

But these three things did. SOMETHING is out there, doing stuff that by our known physical laws say cannot even be done.

Yep, seen a few things like that too and so have some friends. Ho hum.

The government may well have technology which is 50 - 100 years beyond what the commercial sector has. If secret progress in tech moves much faster than is actually released to the public, eventually we will virtually be left in the dark ages by our own government and probably already are.

Also bear in mind that the government may be in possession of equipment capable of displaying dazzling holographic effects that make Hollywood look like childs play. What we see may be a combination of that and real homegrown crafts. If you impress that on minds who have a real need to believe, well....the probable result is obvious.

 

[toobfreak]

Yep, seen a few things like that too and so have some friends. Ho hum.

The government may well have technology which is 50 - 100 years beyond what the commercial sector has. If secret progress in tech moves much faster than is actually released to the public, eventually we will virtually be left in the dark ages by our own government and probably already are.

Also bear in mind that the government may be in possession of equipment capable of displaying dazzling holographic effects that make Hollywood look like childs play. What we see may be a combination of that and real homegrown crafts. If you impress that on minds who have a real need to believe, well....the probable result is obvious.

No, what I saw was no advanced secret aircraft by the government or some clever optical effect. These things were miles up in the air, very high up, absolutely nothing audible on the ground, not even visible unless you at least had 10X binoculars or better, and what they did wasn't beyond aeronautical science but violated physical law.

Nothing flying can make instant dramatic speed changes and instant right angle turns. Not even in space. To do what they did would kill any people aboard and destroy the craft. What they did requires a technology I cannot even conceive where the mass of the vehicle is brought down to zero. No mass, no inertia.

This is impossible and not just a matter of another 50-100 years of advanced technology.

If our government had stuff like that, it would have had to have been given to them, and if they could produce it, they would not be messing around with rockets and missiles and bombers. One of these craft could conquer the planet in a day.

What I saw was technology as far above the best stuff we have as our best stuff is above a monkey with a stick.

 

[Gary Seven]

L.MAO! Did you ever think that maybe there WASNT anyone inside those craft??? Or did you ever think that maybe in an antigravity "bubble" there is little to no inertia. Guess not on both counts.

Do yourself a favor and read this book. It's available with several different covers. It's not just pure speculation. It's based on real government documents and interviews with "insiders". The author is the former editor of Jane's Air Defense Weekly, a military publication. He does a superb job putting it together. The dude has real inside connections. I think you are being very naive. I don't rule out the possibility of alien contact, but I also think that refusing to accept that the government may have technology that is way beyond what many people would believe possible in this day and age is being foolish.

 

[toobfreak]

Did you ever think that maybe there WASNT anyone inside those craft??? Or did you ever think that maybe in an antigravity "bubble" there is little to no inertia. Guess not on both counts.

Actually, yes on both counts. I've considered all of that. Even if it were a robot ship, a craft cannot physically withstand the stress of such high inertia, it would tear it apart as metal, etc., is subject to the same inertia as people. But you are kind of touching upon one possibility, of the ship creating a pocket of space around itself putting the ship in another state, another dimension or something where inertia is eliminated.

I also think that refusing to accept that the government may have technology that is way beyond what many people would believe possible in this day and age is being foolish.

I'm not being naive. Such technology is not just a matter of brilliant thinking, such technology would have to violate known, immutable physical laws which are the very foundations of our science, physics, and understanding of the known universe that governs everything we see from the dust on your table to the stars to distant galaxies.

If the USA has some of this technology, then most likely, it had to have been given to them by an outsider, either that or someone around here has about a 12 million IQ, and if they were that smart, they would be smart enough to become a trillionaire and conquer the Earth.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I remember when respected pilots and military brass and self-styled "UFO Experts" ( gets me every time) commented on a video and said similar things.

"No craft or living thing can move like that. This needs to be researched!"

Then some grad student wrote a blog pointing out that it was an optical illusion easily explained by the parallax effect. That it was just a balloon floating on the wind.

Moral of the story: UFO experts do not exist, and even a trained mind can be fooled and boxed in by its own bias and assumptions.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I also rember when active military pilots reported a missile launch off the coast of California.

Active military pilots who had been trained in the opticlal illusions that our atmosphere can create.

The military was sent into a tizzy. Experts commented on one of the images and concluded it was likely a Chinese missile launched from a submarine.

Turns out it was just a contrail from a daily, trans pacific flight. The picture was reproduced a couple days later, using the same flight.

 

[Gary Seven]

Actually, yes on both counts. I've considered all of that. Even if it were a robot ship, a craft cannot physically withstand the stress of such high inertia, it would tear it apart as metal, etc., is subject to the same inertia as people. But you are kind of touching upon one possibility, of the ship creating a pocket of space around itself putting the ship in another state, another dimension or something where inertia is eliminated.


I'm not being naive. Such technology is not just a matter of brilliant thinking, such technology would have to violate known, immutable physical laws which are the very foundations of our science, physics, and understanding of the known universe that governs everything we see from the dust on your table to the stars to distant galaxies.

If the USA has some of this technology, then most likely, it had to have to them by an outsider, either that or someone around here has about a 12 million IQ, and if they were that smart, they would be smart enough to become a trillionaire and conquer the Earth.

You're being totally naive thinking that you know what is or isn't possible, and discounting that your government very likely has things that would totally challenge what you THINK you know.

 

[toobfreak]

You're being totally naive thinking that you know what is or isn't possible, and discounting that your government very likely has things that would totally challenge what you THINK you know.

Really? You think I'm being "naive" in thinking I have a pretty good idea the limits and boundaries of science with a Master's degree in physical science in not believing that somehow, the mere US government has found a way around violating the rules governing the universe from the speed of light to the laws which govern atoms?

You find me the guy who has figured out how to conquer gravity and inertia, and I'll give you my house, my bank accounts, and all my property, for if I'm that stupid, I deserve to live in a refrigerator box under a bridge.

I'll be right here on USMB waiting and am easy to find soon as you are ready to prove me wrong.