63% of Non-Citizens in U.S. are on the Dole

[boedicca]

The majority, 63%, of non-citizen immigrants households in the U.S. are on at least one form of government assistance. This is far higher than the 35% of native households that receive such aid.

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As Milton Friedman rightly noted, you can't have both a welfare state and open borders:

Because it is one thing to have free immigration to jobs. It is another thing to have free immigration to welfare. And you cannot have both. If you have a welfare state, if you have a state in which every resident is promises a certain minimal level of income, or a minimum level of subsistence, regardless of whether he works or not, produces it or not. Then it really is an impossible thing.

So, if the this trend continues, we will see the type of tax donkey rioting in the U.S. that is underway in France.

A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

Wonder how many of them are voting?

Roughly 0%. Wonder no more.

Correction - millions. In CA, they are automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's licence.

That doesn't mean they vote. So you lied, there. Furthermore, just over 1 million have obtained the AB 60 license since the program started, with, no doubt, a good portion of those people gaining citizenship since. So the "millions" is another lie by you.

Also, the AB 60 license renewals are not part of the motor voter program for license renewals. Oops, wrong again...

And the AB 60 licenses have 5 year renewal periods. The program started in 2015. How many have renewed, then? See if you can handle that math.

I have some beautiful swamp...errrr beach front property for sale in Florida.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The majority, 63%, of non-citizen immigrants households in the U.S. are on at least one form of government assistance. This is far higher than the 35% of native households that receive such aid.

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As Milton Friedman rightly noted, you can't have both a welfare state and open borders:

Because it is one thing to have free immigration to jobs. It is another thing to have free immigration to welfare. And you cannot have both. If you have a welfare state, if you have a state in which every resident is promises a certain minimal level of income, or a minimum level of subsistence, regardless of whether he works or not, produces it or not. Then it really is an impossible thing.

So, if the this trend continues, we will see the type of tax donkey rioting in the U.S. that is underway in France.

A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

Wonder how many of them are voting?

Roughly 0%. Wonder no more.

Correction - millions. In CA, they are automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's licence.

That doesn't mean they vote. So you lied, there. Furthermore, just over 1 million have obtained the AB 60 license since the program started, with, no doubt, a good portion of those people gaining citizenship since. So the "millions" is another lie by you.

Also, the AB 60 license renewals are not part of the motor voter program for license renewals. Oops, wrong again...

And the AB 60 licenses have 5 year renewal periods. The program started in 2015. How many have renewed, then? See if you can handle that math.

I have some beautiful swamp...errrr beach front property for sale in Florida.

You said many false, stupid things. You probably shouldn't post again, until you correct your ignorant errors. Not least of which is your false, lying thread title.

 

[boedicca]

Wonder how many of them are voting?

Roughly 0%. Wonder no more.

Correction - millions. In CA, they are automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's licence.

That doesn't mean they vote. So you lied, there. Furthermore, just over 1 million have obtained the AB 60 license since the program started, with, no doubt, a good portion of those people gaining citizenship since. So the "millions" is another lie by you.

Also, the AB 60 license renewals are not part of the motor voter program for license renewals. Oops, wrong again...

And the AB 60 licenses have 5 year renewal periods. The program started in 2015. How many have renewed, then? See if you can handle that math.

I have some beautiful swamp...errrr beach front property for sale in Florida.

You said many false, stupid things. You probably shouldn't post again, until you correct your ignorant errors. Not least of which is your false, lying thread title.

You sad little gullible boob.

The Dems are desperately trying to keep our borders open so that illegal aliens can get to the U.S. to:

- Be cheap gardners and nannies for them
- Provide more clients for the Status Quo bureaucracy who process welfare benefits
- Vote for the Dems

If you can't see this, then it's terrifying that you actually are allowed to go about in public and do things like drive a car...and vote.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Roughly 0%. Wonder no more.

Correction - millions. In CA, they are automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's licence.

That doesn't mean they vote. So you lied, there. Furthermore, just over 1 million have obtained the AB 60 license since the program started, with, no doubt, a good portion of those people gaining citizenship since. So the "millions" is another lie by you.

Also, the AB 60 license renewals are not part of the motor voter program for license renewals. Oops, wrong again...

And the AB 60 licenses have 5 year renewal periods. The program started in 2015. How many have renewed, then? See if you can handle that math.

I have some beautiful swamp...errrr beach front property for sale in Florida.

You said many false, stupid things. You probably shouldn't post again, until you correct your ignorant errors. Not least of which is your false, lying thread title.

You sad little gullible boob.

The Dems are desperately trying to keep our borders open so that illegal aliens can get to the U.S. to:

- Be cheap gardners and nannies for them
- Provide more clients for the Status Quo bureaucracy who process welfare benefits
- Vote for the Dems

If you can't see this, then it's terrifying that you actually are allowed to go about in public and do things like drive a car...and vote.

You never read the study release and have no idea what it says or shows.

Your thread title is a demonstrable lie that you pulled out of your ass.

Every single bit of your laughable attempt to rebut me (on anything BUT the content of the study, as you already embarrassed yourself completely, there) was an embarrassing lie. Did you bother to correct any of these lies? Of course not.

Dude, your thread is officially dogshit.

 

[boedicca]

Correction - millions. In CA, they are automatically registered to vote when they get a driver's licence.

That doesn't mean they vote. So you lied, there. Furthermore, just over 1 million have obtained the AB 60 license since the program started, with, no doubt, a good portion of those people gaining citizenship since. So the "millions" is another lie by you.

Also, the AB 60 license renewals are not part of the motor voter program for license renewals. Oops, wrong again...

And the AB 60 licenses have 5 year renewal periods. The program started in 2015. How many have renewed, then? See if you can handle that math.

I have some beautiful swamp...errrr beach front property for sale in Florida.

You said many false, stupid things. You probably shouldn't post again, until you correct your ignorant errors. Not least of which is your false, lying thread title.

You sad little gullible boob.

The Dems are desperately trying to keep our borders open so that illegal aliens can get to the U.S. to:

- Be cheap gardners and nannies for them
- Provide more clients for the Status Quo bureaucracy who process welfare benefits
- Vote for the Dems

If you can't see this, then it's terrifying that you actually are allowed to go about in public and do things like drive a car...and vote.

You never read the study release and have no idea what it says or shows.

Your thread title is a demonstrable lie that you pulled out of your ass.

Every single bit of your laughable attempt to rebut me (on anything BUT the content of the study, as you already embarrassed yourself completely, there) was an embarrassing lie.

Dude, your thread is officially dogshit.

Link to all the AGW studies you believe and want to use as a basis to have us all go back to subsistence farming?

 

[well named]

Where to start....this study is such a steaming pile of shit, that I'll just mention a few points and let everyone else figure out the rest.

1) for one, it's 63% of households headed by a noncitizen, not 63% of non citizens (that's the lie in the lying thread title invented by the OP)

2) Second, it counts any household in which any family member receives benefits, and these family members are generally citizens. So, for example, when a US citizen child in one of these households receives Medicaid (as all us citizen children are eligible to do, if they meet other requirements), then the household is included in this "63%".

3) The Earned Income Tax Credit is counted as cash receipt welfare (you must work and pay taxes to get it). When this is removed, the percentage of non-citizen headed households receiving any cash receipt welfare is actually LOWER than native-led households (6 to 8 percent)

See also Post #4, but I like that you independently came to similar conclusions (I had mentioned the EITC problem in one of the other threads on this)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Link to all the AGW studies you believe and want to use as a basis to have us all go back to subsistence farming?

Haha, please. You know less than nothing about that topic, either. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[boedicca]

Link to all the AGW studies you believe and want to use as a basis to have us all go back to subsistence farming?

Haha, please. You know less than nothing about that topic, either. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Do you read any actual news?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Where to start....this study is such a steaming pile of shit, that I'll just mention a few points and let everyone else figure out the rest.

1) for one, it's 63% of households headed by a noncitizen, not 63% of non citizens (that's the lie in the lying thread title invented by the OP)

2) Second, it counts any household in which any family member receives benefits, and these family members are generally citizens. So, for example, when a US citizen child in one of these households receives Medicaid (as all us citizen children are eligible to do, if they meet other requirements), then the household is included in this "63%".

3) The Earned Income Tax Credit is counted as cash receipt welfare (you must work and pay taxes to get it). When this is removed, the percentage of non-citizen headed households receiving any cash receipt welfare is actually LOWER than native-led households (6 to 8 percent)

See also Post #4, but I like that you independently came to similar conclusions (I had mentioned the EITC problem in one of the other threads on this)

This whole thing is an embarrassing scam and these guys should feel embarrassed that they fell for it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Link to all the AGW studies you believe and want to use as a basis to have us all go back to subsistence farming?

Haha, please. You know less than nothing about that topic, either. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Do you read any actual news?

Trying to change the subject in your own thread,eh? News, like....the embarrassing article you linked to in the OP? "News" like that?

 

[danielpalos]

The majority, 63%, of non-citizen immigrants households in the U.S. are on at least one form of government assistance. This is far higher than the 35% of native households that receive such aid.

View attachment 232726

As Milton Friedman rightly noted, you can't have both a welfare state and open borders:

Because it is one thing to have free immigration to jobs. It is another thing to have free immigration to welfare. And you cannot have both. If you have a welfare state, if you have a state in which every resident is promises a certain minimal level of income, or a minimum level of subsistence, regardless of whether he works or not, produces it or not. Then it really is an impossible thing.

So, if the this trend continues, we will see the type of tax donkey rioting in the U.S. that is underway in France.

A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

We should be upgrading Ellis Island and generating revenue. Only lousy capitalists lose money on public policies.