6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

[Crepitus]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

 

[Crepitus]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

2....one was a muslim terrorist, the other was two black anti-semites..........

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

Glossed over the 12 million innocent men, women and children they murdered.........

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Only six, and it is a really big thing. We have more than that many every day. We should do what they are doing.

Theyre letting in more third worlders ...western europes murder and violent crime rates will not stop rising ....if civilization is still standing western europe should surpass the U.S. in all crime categories ....without a doubt ....probably during this decade ...I'd bet on it ...and collect

They already do in some categories....


Never give up your rifles white man

 

[BULLDOG]

The Supreme Court said banning blacks from a lunch counter was infringing their rights, but regulating gun is not. Only an idiot would try to say those were the same thing, or perhaps a childish, crazy gun nut.

Both are an infringement on Rights...you doofus. The Right to keep and Bear arms is a Right just like all the others...no less than the others.......only an idiot would attack one Right thinking that makes the other rights more secure.

You should go tell that to the Supreme Court. They disagree with you.

You didn't read Heller, Miller, Caetano, or any of the other rulings.....you should do that before you post....

Which part of any of those say that regulation is infringement?

All of them. A Right delayed is a Right denied.......

So yo can't point out anything to support your claim. Imagine that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Only six, and it is a really big thing. We have more than that many every day. We should do what they are doing.

Theyre letting in more third worlders ...western europes murder and violent crime rates will not stop rising ....if civilization is still standing western europe should surpass the U.S. in all crime categories ....without a doubt ....probably during this decade ...I'd bet on it ...and collect

They already do in some categories....


Never give up your rifles white man

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There might be as many as 7 or 8 next time. Compared to the thousands we kill, that's not many.

 

[Crepitus]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

2....one was a muslim terrorist, the other was two black anti-semites..........

Wrong, 30+ mass shootings, 50+ deaths, 140+ injuries.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

 

[Crepitus]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

Glossed over the 12 million innocent men, women and children they murdered.........

Wtf are you babbling about?

 

[fncceo]

Not the first shooting in Munich, not the last.

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

2....one was a muslim terrorist, the other was two black anti-semites..........

Wrong, 30+ mass shootings, 50+ deaths, 140+ injuries.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

Wrong, doofus.....they include gang shootings over girlfriends and territory, which is not a mass public shooting. The actual definition of mass public shooting is used for the list from Mother Jones....the anti-gun, left wing news organization....they use the FBI definition...

You guys have to lie and use any shooting in gang territories in democrat party controlled cities......to fool uninformed Americans into thinking mass public shootings happen all the time.

2018....total mass public shootings 12
2017.....11
2019....11

Out of 320 million people..........

Mass public shootings are completely different from gang shootings you doofus. Mixing the two to gain political power will not solve either one. But you guys don't care about solving them, you just need to inflate your numbers to get the power to ban and confiscate guns from normal people......while the actual criminals use guns no matter what gun control you pass.

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

Glossed over the 12 million innocent men, women and children they murdered.........

Wtf are you babbling about?

The Germans registered and banned guns in the 1920s and 30s.....the left wing socialists used those lists in the late 30s and 40s to confiscate guns from the people they planned on murdering....they also murdered Europeans from the countries they controlled...countries who also banned and confiscated guns from normal people ..... in order to keep them safe......and then turned those people over to the German socialists for murder in the death camps.

 

[Crepitus]

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

2....one was a muslim terrorist, the other was two black anti-semites..........

Wrong, 30+ mass shootings, 50+ deaths, 140+ injuries.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

Wrong, doofus.....they include gang shootings over girlfriends and territory, which is not a mass public shooting. The actual definition of mass public shooting is used for the list from Mother Jones....the anti-gun, left wing news organization....they use the FBI definition...

You guys have to lie and use any shooting in gang territories in democrat party controlled cities......to fool uninformed Americans into thinking mass public shootings happen all the time.

2018....total mass public shootings 12
2017.....11
2019....11

Out of 320 million people..........

Mass public shootings are completely different from gang shootings you doofus. Mixing the two to gain political power will not solve either one. But you guys don't care about solving them, you just need to inflate your numbers to get the power to ban and confiscate guns from normal people......while the actual criminals use guns no matter what gun control you pass.

I win.

Go back and read your OP to find out why.

Damn you're stupid..

 

[Vagabond63]

Wrong, doofus.....they include gang shootings over girlfriends and territory, which is not a mass public shooting. The actual definition of mass public shooting is used for the list from Mother Jones....the anti-gun, left wing news organization....they use the FBI definition...

Do they? The FBI doesn't have a definition of "mass public shooting", I'd have thought you'd know that, given your years of research. The FBI definition is for mass murder, there's a difference.

 

[Vagabond63]

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

2....one was a muslim terrorist, the other was two black anti-semites..........

Wrong, 30+ mass shootings, 50+ deaths, 140+ injuries.

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

Wrong, doofus.....they include gang shootings over girlfriends and territory, which is not a mass public shooting. The actual definition of mass public shooting is used for the list from Mother Jones....the anti-gun, left wing news organization....they use the FBI definition...

You guys have to lie and use any shooting in gang territories in democrat party controlled cities......to fool uninformed Americans into thinking mass public shootings happen all the time.

2018....total mass public shootings 12
2017.....11
2019....11

Out of 320 million people..........

Mass public shootings are completely different from gang shootings you doofus. Mixing the two to gain political power will not solve either one. But you guys don't care about solving them, you just need to inflate your numbers to get the power to ban and confiscate guns from normal people......while the actual criminals use guns no matter what gun control you pass.

I win.

Go back and read your OP to find out why.

Damn you're stupid..

 

[Vagabond63]

When was the last mass shooting in Germany? Before this one I mean.

Munich, 2016. Yes.....they have fewer mass shootings than we do...we had 11 in 2019.....11 people in a country of over 320 million used their guns illegally in mass public shootings. What you guys fail to understand is that they have guns, they have access to military weapons, they just don't decide to commit mass public shootings....culture, not gun control, has kept their people from doing mass public shootings.

What they have had....2 world wars, that they started......and they murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children......people who they first disarmed before they murdered them. They registered their guns during the Weimar Republic and the socialists then used those lists to confiscate their guns before they murdered them.

Four years? How many did we have last month?

Glossed over the 12 million innocent men, women and children they murdered.........

Wtf are you babbling about?

The Germans registered and banned guns in the 1920s and 30s.....the left wing socialists used those lists in the late 30s and 40s to confiscate guns from the people they planned on murdering....they also murdered Europeans from the countries they controlled...countries who also banned and confiscated guns from normal people ..... in order to keep them safe......and then turned those people over to the German socialists for murder in the death camps.

 

[harmonica]

their murder rate is many times LOWER than the US

 

[2aguy]

Wrong, doofus.....they include gang shootings over girlfriends and territory, which is not a mass public shooting. The actual definition of mass public shooting is used for the list from Mother Jones....the anti-gun, left wing news organization....they use the FBI definition...

Do they? The FBI doesn't have a definition of "mass public shooting", I'd have thought you'd know that, given your years of research. The FBI definition is for mass murder, there's a difference.

It doesn't include gang members shooting each other over drug turf, girlfriends or facebook insults...

Here you go.......

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

 

[2aguy]

their murder rate is many times LOWER than the US

Yes...due to culture, and values.....not gun control.

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...