34.4% of Active Shooter attacks stopped by armed citizens.....

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It appears that the anti-gun fascists at the FBI are trying to hide the truth about armed citizens stopping shooters......

But according to these statistics, it happens far more often than the Bureau’s records claim. How far off was the FBI? During the seven-year period from 2014 through 2021, the agency reported that only 4.4% of active shooting events were ended by armed citizens, but Lott’s figures indicate that the number was actually more than 34%. That’s a very large discrepancy to account for. (Fox News)




The link to the actual report......


Massive errors in FBI’s Active Shooting Reports regarding cases where civilians stop attacks: Instead of 4.4%, the correct number is at least 34.4%. In 2021, it is at least 49.1%. Excluding gun-free zones, it averaged over 50%.

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Evidence compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows that the sources the media relied on undercounted the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks by an order of more than ten, saving untold numbers of lives. Of course, law-abiding citizens stopping these attacks are not rare. What is rare is national news coverage of those incidents. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.


 
Wait...
People who oppose the right to keep and bear arms hid information that demonstrates the efficacy of the right to keep and bear arms.

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I have to agree. I'm fairly pro Second Amendment, but even I'm calling bullshit on this.


And from the article....

The FBI reports that armed citizens only stopped 11 of the 252 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2021. The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively kills or attempts to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.

An analysis by my organization identified a total of 360 active shooter incidents during that period and found that an armed citizen stopped 124. A previous report looked at only instances when armed civilians stopped what likely would have been mass public shootings. There were another 24 cases that we didn’t include where armed civilians stopped armed attacks, but the suspect didn’t fire his gun. Those cases are excluded from our calculations, though it could be argued that a civilian also stopped what likely could have been an active shooting event.

The FBI reported that armed citizens thwarted 4.4% of active shooter incidents, while the CPRC found 34.4%.

Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents, the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, the FBI did not list these cases as being stopped by armed citizens because police later apprehended the attackers. In two other incidents, the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. Finally, the FBI failed to mention citizen engagement in one incident.
 
It appears that the anti-gun fascists at the FBI are trying to hide the truth about armed citizens stopping shooters......

But according to these statistics, it happens far more often than the Bureau’s records claim. How far off was the FBI? During the seven-year period from 2014 through 2021, the agency reported that only 4.4% of active shooting events were ended by armed citizens, but Lott’s figures indicate that the number was actually more than 34%. That’s a very large discrepancy to account for. (Fox News)




The link to the actual report......


Massive errors in FBI’s Active Shooting Reports regarding cases where civilians stop attacks: Instead of 4.4%, the correct number is at least 34.4%. In 2021, it is at least 49.1%. Excluding gun-free zones, it averaged over 50%.

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Evidence compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows that the sources the media relied on undercounted the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks by an order of more than ten, saving untold numbers of lives. Of course, law-abiding citizens stopping these attacks are not rare. What is rare is national news coverage of those incidents. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.



The FBI has proven themselves to be the enemy of democracy.
 
It appears that the anti-gun fascists at the FBI are trying to hide the truth about armed citizens stopping shooters......

But according to these statistics, it happens far more often than the Bureau’s records claim. How far off was the FBI? During the seven-year period from 2014 through 2021, the agency reported that only 4.4% of active shooting events were ended by armed citizens, but Lott’s figures indicate that the number was actually more than 34%. That’s a very large discrepancy to account for. (Fox News)




The link to the actual report......


Massive errors in FBI’s Active Shooting Reports regarding cases where civilians stop attacks: Instead of 4.4%, the correct number is at least 34.4%. In 2021, it is at least 49.1%. Excluding gun-free zones, it averaged over 50%.

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Evidence compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows that the sources the media relied on undercounted the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks by an order of more than ten, saving untold numbers of lives. Of course, law-abiding citizens stopping these attacks are not rare. What is rare is national news coverage of those incidents. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.



Imagine what else the FBI is hiding and lying about...
 
It appears that the anti-gun fascists at the FBI are trying to hide the truth about armed citizens stopping shooters......

But according to these statistics, it happens far more often than the Bureau’s records claim. How far off was the FBI? During the seven-year period from 2014 through 2021, the agency reported that only 4.4% of active shooting events were ended by armed citizens, but Lott’s figures indicate that the number was actually more than 34%. That’s a very large discrepancy to account for. (Fox News)




The link to the actual report......


Massive errors in FBI’s Active Shooting Reports regarding cases where civilians stop attacks: Instead of 4.4%, the correct number is at least 34.4%. In 2021, it is at least 49.1%. Excluding gun-free zones, it averaged over 50%.

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Evidence compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows that the sources the media relied on undercounted the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks by an order of more than ten, saving untold numbers of lives. Of course, law-abiding citizens stopping these attacks are not rare. What is rare is national news coverage of those incidents. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.


This is a lie.

The Crime Prevention Research Center is an unreliable source:

“Overall, we rate the Crime Prevention Research Center Right Biased based on strongly advocating for guns and the conservative agenda. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks.”


The FBI is not ‘anti-gun’ nor are employees of the FBI ‘fascists.’

In 2021 only 7 percent of active shooter incidents were stopped by armed private citizens.


‘Good guy with a gun’ is a myth.

The thread premise is nothing but more demagoguery and lies from the dishonest right.

Conservatives need to stop with the ridiculous lies in a pathetic, needless effort to ‘justify’ gun possession.
 
This is a lie.

The Crime Prevention Research Center is an unreliable source:

“Overall, we rate the Crime Prevention Research Center Right Biased based on strongly advocating for guns and the conservative agenda. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks.”


The FBI is not ‘anti-gun’ nor are employees of the FBI ‘fascists.’

In 2021 only 7 percent of active shooter incidents were stopped by armed private citizens.


‘Good guy with a gun’ is a myth.

The thread premise is nothing but more demagoguery and lies from the dishonest right.

Conservatives need to stop with the ridiculous lies in a pathetic, needless effort to ‘justify’ gun possession.

Are you mentally ill?
 
This is a lie.

The Crime Prevention Research Center is an unreliable source:

“Overall, we rate the Crime Prevention Research Center Right Biased based on strongly advocating for guns and the conservative agenda. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks.”


The FBI is not ‘anti-gun’ nor are employees of the FBI ‘fascists.’

In 2021 only 7 percent of active shooter incidents were stopped by armed private citizens.


‘Good guy with a gun’ is a myth.

The thread premise is nothing but more demagoguery and lies from the dishonest right.

Conservatives need to stop with the ridiculous lies in a pathetic, needless effort to ‘justify’ gun possession.


Left wing political propaganda outfit labels Crime Prevention Research Center unreliable? Because the CPRC doesn't support gun control..........

Wow.......good reporting.....
 
This is a lie.

The Crime Prevention Research Center is an unreliable source:

“Overall, we rate the Crime Prevention Research Center Right Biased based on strongly advocating for guns and the conservative agenda. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on a few failed fact checks.”


The FBI is not ‘anti-gun’ nor are employees of the FBI ‘fascists.’

In 2021 only 7 percent of active shooter incidents were stopped by armed private citizens.


‘Good guy with a gun’ is a myth.

The thread premise is nothing but more demagoguery and lies from the dishonest right.

Conservatives need to stop with the ridiculous lies in a pathetic, needless effort to ‘justify’ gun possession.


Good guy with a gun stopped two mass public shootings right after Uvalde...one in West Virginia, one in Indiana........you moron...

As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.



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Indiana mall shooting...



Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.





https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...ped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/======



West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

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Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

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This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


https://www.goupstate.com/news/20160627/lyman-man-charged-following-shooting-at-nightclub
 
It appears that the anti-gun fascists at the FBI are trying to hide the truth about armed citizens stopping shooters......

But according to these statistics, it happens far more often than the Bureau’s records claim. How far off was the FBI? During the seven-year period from 2014 through 2021, the agency reported that only 4.4% of active shooting events were ended by armed citizens, but Lott’s figures indicate that the number was actually more than 34%. That’s a very large discrepancy to account for. (Fox News)




The link to the actual report......


Massive errors in FBI’s Active Shooting Reports regarding cases where civilians stop attacks: Instead of 4.4%, the correct number is at least 34.4%. In 2021, it is at least 49.1%. Excluding gun-free zones, it averaged over 50%.

-------

Evidence compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows that the sources the media relied on undercounted the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks by an order of more than ten, saving untold numbers of lives. Of course, law-abiding citizens stopping these attacks are not rare. What is rare is national news coverage of those incidents. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.


Just more wack-a-doodle bullshit.

Did an armed citizen stop the Nashville shooter?
 
Just more wack-a-doodle bullshit.

Did an armed citizen stop the Nashville shooter?


Considering it was a gun free zone.......you are an idiot..........

You fascists make every public space a "gun free zone," making it impossible for normal people to carry their guns with them, then use the fact that no one has a gun during an attack as proof that good guys can't stop bad guys.....

You are dishonest assholes....

these people stopped mass public shooters because they had their legal guns with them.......

Indiana mall shooting...



Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.





https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...ped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/======



West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.



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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

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Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

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This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


Lyman man charged following shooting at nightclub
 
Considering it was a gun free zone.......you are an idiot..........

You fascists make every public space a "gun free zone," making it impossible for normal people to carry their guns with them, then use the fact that no one has a gun during an attack as proof that good guys can't stop bad guys.....

You are dishonest assholes....

these people stopped mass public shooters because they had their legal guns with them.......

Indiana mall shooting...



Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.





https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...ped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/======



West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.



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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

=====



Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

=============



This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


Lyman man charged following shooting at nightclub
Your triggered cry for relevance is noted.


Meanwhile everyday gun violence goes unabated.
 
Your triggered cry for relevance is noted.


Meanwhile everyday gun violence goes unabated.


No...every day gun violence is a direct result of the democrat party and its policies......they attack the police, making it harder for them to do their jobs, and they continue to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again..........

If you want to reduce gun violence, vote out the democrats.
 
No...every day gun violence is a direct result of the democrat party and its policies......they attack the police, making it harder for them to do their jobs, and they continue to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again..........

If you want to reduce gun violence, vote out the democrats.
Why are the highest rates of gun violence in lax law red states?
 

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