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No, it didn't. The right to acquire and possess already existed and is recognized in State Constitutions, not our Second Amendment.Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State.I keep forgetting you are on the right wing; let's try to keep it simpler.I have proven, from court decisions all the way up to the United States Supreme Court that the Right to keep and bear Arms existed before the ratification of the Second Amendment; that it is not dependent upon that instrument for its existence; that you have an inherent Right to own firearms.
You are the one who has proven nothing. You keep yapping about state constitutions. Well, let us take one and see how the courts ruled:
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in the lawful defense of himself or the state, is absolute. He does not derive it from the state government, but directly from the sovereign convention of the people that framed the state government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and "is excepted out of the general powers of government." A law cannot be passed (p.402)to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the law-making power.
The argument advanced against the constitutionality of this law is, that any discrimination made by the legislature, in punishing the abuse of this right, in regard to a particular weapon, is an impairing of the right of its lawful use."
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394 (1859)
The courts clearly and unequivocally disagree with the snake oil you keep trying to sell. NOBODY, not even on your own side, is buying whatever you're selling - unless they just don't understand. And, to add insult to injury, you have not been able to produce one, single, solitary fact from ANY source to back up your claims with.
The South did not have a right to rebel against "perceived tyranny"; we have a First Amendment.
When a tyrannical government is shooting and enslaving people, the First Amendment is about as useless as tits on a boar hog.
I'm not on the right or the left. I'm me.
A well regulated militia is necessary to insure the security of a free state... but, the Right to keep and bear Arms already existed. The government has a vested interest in guaranteeing the Right; however, the Right exists even without the Second Amendment and it is above the law.
What in the Hell is wrong with you? Did you eat a bowl of stupid? Get your head out of your ass and quit repeating the same thing over and over. Provide something besides a silly ass circular argument that is not supported in history or law.
1) The Right to keep and bear Arms is a Right that predates the Constitution. The RIGHT to keep and bear Arms existed before the Constitution and is not dependent upon that instrument for its existence
2) Forget the Constitution. You don't need the Second Amendment in order to have a Right to keep and bear Arms. The RIGHT exists without it
3) The word "secure" as it relates to state governments simply means to insure the RIGHT.