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The Ukrainian's passed a law to protect their heritage, culture and language of their indigenous population and Putin became livid.
Hysteria from Russia confirms it has reason to fear Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples
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In a Rossiya 1 state TV interview on 9 June, Putin claimed that Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples reminded him of Nazi Germany. He suggested that “the division into indigenous, first-class and second-class people and so forth” was very reminiscent of the Nazis, and all that was missing was to measure people’s skull, like in (Nazi) Germany. It was stupid and improper, he asserted, to speak of Russians as being a non-indigenous people, and then went on to claim that Ukraine had arisen as a creation of the Soviet period and that it was therefore incorrect to divide peoples. Nobody would want to be a second-sort person, he said and then really went off into fantasy with the assertion that the bill could lead to hundreds of thousands or millions being forced to leave or begin to rewrite their identity.
This was all pure manipulation, as was his claim to have noticed the article of the bill that stipulates that indigenous peoples shall not be discriminated against. “That means that indigenous peoples cannot be discriminated against. So non-indigenous peoples can?”
This was on state television, and Putin could be quite sure that such evident lies and distortions would not be challenged.
The same was true of Russia’s State Duma which also condemned the bill, claiming it to be “outrageous provocation’, aimed at exacerbating the situation and conflicts both within Ukraine, and beyond. They asserted that they would “demand that the European community give their assessment of the document” and mentioned all kinds of international structures, including those who almost certainly helped to draft Ukraine’s bill
While the Duma simply blustered, Putin got around the fact that the bill is in accordance with international standards by claiming that the OSCE and other Western bodies would go along with Ukraine which is seen as a counter to Russia.
Aside from usual propaganda methods, Russian politicians mainly focused on the fact that Russians had not been identified as an indigenous people. Russians are undoubtedly a large national minority in Ukraine, but quite clearly do not fit the above definition of an indigenous people.
What makes such purported indignation particularly absurd is that Russians would not be an indigenous people of Ukraine, according to Russian legislation, nor is the very large Ukrainian minority in the Russian Federation. There are no grounds for believing that Putin and his ruling party-dominated parliament are unaware of this. Quite the contrary, since, in 2016, the Kremlin commissioned a study by Sergey Sokolovskiy from the Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, aimed at ‘proving’, using entirely different arguments, that the Crimean Tatars should be considered a national minority, not an indigenous people (details here).
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As soon as I can y'all get the links. A young Ukrainian not only fights for his homeland against Mongol invaders he takes the time to give the history of his people and tells how the original people of Ukraine have been under the invaders boots until more recent history.
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Russia has been killing Ukrainians for years and they still try to find the bodies of those who have been killed by Russian invasions.
Hysteria from Russia confirms it has reason to fear Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples
Excerpt:
In a Rossiya 1 state TV interview on 9 June, Putin claimed that Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples reminded him of Nazi Germany. He suggested that “the division into indigenous, first-class and second-class people and so forth” was very reminiscent of the Nazis, and all that was missing was to measure people’s skull, like in (Nazi) Germany. It was stupid and improper, he asserted, to speak of Russians as being a non-indigenous people, and then went on to claim that Ukraine had arisen as a creation of the Soviet period and that it was therefore incorrect to divide peoples. Nobody would want to be a second-sort person, he said and then really went off into fantasy with the assertion that the bill could lead to hundreds of thousands or millions being forced to leave or begin to rewrite their identity.
This was all pure manipulation, as was his claim to have noticed the article of the bill that stipulates that indigenous peoples shall not be discriminated against. “That means that indigenous peoples cannot be discriminated against. So non-indigenous peoples can?”
This was on state television, and Putin could be quite sure that such evident lies and distortions would not be challenged.
The same was true of Russia’s State Duma which also condemned the bill, claiming it to be “outrageous provocation’, aimed at exacerbating the situation and conflicts both within Ukraine, and beyond. They asserted that they would “demand that the European community give their assessment of the document” and mentioned all kinds of international structures, including those who almost certainly helped to draft Ukraine’s bill
While the Duma simply blustered, Putin got around the fact that the bill is in accordance with international standards by claiming that the OSCE and other Western bodies would go along with Ukraine which is seen as a counter to Russia.
Aside from usual propaganda methods, Russian politicians mainly focused on the fact that Russians had not been identified as an indigenous people. Russians are undoubtedly a large national minority in Ukraine, but quite clearly do not fit the above definition of an indigenous people.
What makes such purported indignation particularly absurd is that Russians would not be an indigenous people of Ukraine, according to Russian legislation, nor is the very large Ukrainian minority in the Russian Federation. There are no grounds for believing that Putin and his ruling party-dominated parliament are unaware of this. Quite the contrary, since, in 2016, the Kremlin commissioned a study by Sergey Sokolovskiy from the Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, aimed at ‘proving’, using entirely different arguments, that the Crimean Tatars should be considered a national minority, not an indigenous people (details here).
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As soon as I can y'all get the links. A young Ukrainian not only fights for his homeland against Mongol invaders he takes the time to give the history of his people and tells how the original people of Ukraine have been under the invaders boots until more recent history.
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Russia has been killing Ukrainians for years and they still try to find the bodies of those who have been killed by Russian invasions.
All of you Pootin lovers you must be all blind, i advise you all to go and buy yourself a pair of glasses and once you are at it buy yourself a heart you need one.
