2021 is pretty much when Putin started calling Ukrainians Nazi's

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The Ukrainian's passed a law to protect their heritage, culture and language of their indigenous population and Putin became livid.

Hysteria from Russia confirms it has reason to fear Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples
Excerpt:
In a Rossiya 1 state TV interview on 9 June, Putin claimed that Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples reminded him of Nazi Germany. He suggested that “the division into indigenous, first-class and second-class people and so forth” was very reminiscent of the Nazis, and all that was missing was to measure people’s skull, like in (Nazi) Germany. It was stupid and improper, he asserted, to speak of Russians as being a non-indigenous people, and then went on to claim that Ukraine had arisen as a creation of the Soviet period and that it was therefore incorrect to divide peoples. Nobody would want to be a second-sort person, he said and then really went off into fantasy with the assertion that the bill could lead to hundreds of thousands or millions being forced to leave or begin to rewrite their identity.


This was all pure manipulation, as was his claim to have noticed the article of the bill that stipulates that indigenous peoples shall not be discriminated against. “That means that indigenous peoples cannot be discriminated against. So non-indigenous peoples can?”


This was on state television, and Putin could be quite sure that such evident lies and distortions would not be challenged.


The same was true of Russia’s State Duma which also condemned the bill, claiming it to be “outrageous provocation’, aimed at exacerbating the situation and conflicts both within Ukraine, and beyond. They asserted that they would “demand that the European community give their assessment of the document” and mentioned all kinds of international structures, including those who almost certainly helped to draft Ukraine’s bill


While the Duma simply blustered, Putin got around the fact that the bill is in accordance with international standards by claiming that the OSCE and other Western bodies would go along with Ukraine which is seen as a counter to Russia.


Aside from usual propaganda methods, Russian politicians mainly focused on the fact that Russians had not been identified as an indigenous people. Russians are undoubtedly a large national minority in Ukraine, but quite clearly do not fit the above definition of an indigenous people.


What makes such purported indignation particularly absurd is that Russians would not be an indigenous people of Ukraine, according to Russian legislation, nor is the very large Ukrainian minority in the Russian Federation. There are no grounds for believing that Putin and his ruling party-dominated parliament are unaware of this. Quite the contrary, since, in 2016, the Kremlin commissioned a study by Sergey Sokolovskiy from the Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, aimed at ‘proving’, using entirely different arguments, that the Crimean Tatars should be considered a national minority, not an indigenous people (details here).
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As soon as I can y'all get the links. A young Ukrainian not only fights for his homeland against Mongol invaders he takes the time to give the history of his people and tells how the original people of Ukraine have been under the invaders boots until more recent history.

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Russia has been killing Ukrainians for years and they still try to find the bodies of those who have been killed by Russian invasions.
 
From the Ukraine he gives history and updates.

 
Putin claimed that Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples reminded him of Nazi Germany. He suggested that “the division into indigenous, first-class and second-class people and so forth” was very reminiscent of the Nazis, and all that was missing was to measure people’s skull, like in (Nazi) Germany. It was stupid and improper, he asserted, to speak of Russians as being a non-indigenous people, and then went on to claim that Ukraine had arisen as a creation of the Soviet period and that it was therefore incorrect to divide peoples.
Once again, the awesome Putin is 100% correct. .... :thup:
 
Once again, the awesome Putin is 100% correct. .... :thup:
No he is not "correct". He is just a Mongol piggy whom you seem to adore. See the real Nazis used the Muzzies too; claim others are doing what your are actually doing; but that doesn't work for those who seek the truth. He may have done well with his butchers in Syria but that was because he had a willing leader in Syria to allow him to do it. And that is not going to happen in Ukraine.
 
Putin is a greedy blood thirsty thug and so are his dogs Kadyrov and all those investors backing them. They have innocent blood on their hands. May they all rot in hell.
 
Putin and his cohorts will be remembered for putting the nails in many coffins and destroyer of many innocent and his own country through his greed, tyranny and incompetence.

One advantage Twitter has is that it has a tranlator. https://twitter.com/sternenko?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

This guy is really good at showing the lies and deception that even many Russian leaders are questioning heavily at this point.

Subtitled for it can be read in English
 
The Ukrainian's passed a law to protect their heritage, culture and language of their indigenous population and Putin became livid.
Putin had every right to be upset about that racist law.
If politicians tried to pass a law like that here in America, people would go ballistic and there'd be riots in the streets.
 
The Ukrainian's passed a law to protect their heritage, culture and language of their indigenous population and Putin became livid.

Hysteria from Russia confirms it has reason to fear Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples
Excerpt:
In a Rossiya 1 state TV interview on 9 June, Putin claimed that Ukraine’s bill on indigenous peoples reminded him of Nazi Germany. He suggested that “the division into indigenous, first-class and second-class people and so forth” was very reminiscent of the Nazis, and all that was missing was to measure people’s skull, like in (Nazi) Germany. It was stupid and improper, he asserted, to speak of Russians as being a non-indigenous people, and then went on to claim that Ukraine had arisen as a creation of the Soviet period and that it was therefore incorrect to divide peoples. Nobody would want to be a second-sort person, he said and then really went off into fantasy with the assertion that the bill could lead to hundreds of thousands or millions being forced to leave or begin to rewrite their identity.


This was all pure manipulation, as was his claim to have noticed the article of the bill that stipulates that indigenous peoples shall not be discriminated against. “That means that indigenous peoples cannot be discriminated against. So non-indigenous peoples can?”


This was on state television, and Putin could be quite sure that such evident lies and distortions would not be challenged.


The same was true of Russia’s State Duma which also condemned the bill, claiming it to be “outrageous provocation’, aimed at exacerbating the situation and conflicts both within Ukraine, and beyond. They asserted that they would “demand that the European community give their assessment of the document” and mentioned all kinds of international structures, including those who almost certainly helped to draft Ukraine’s bill


While the Duma simply blustered, Putin got around the fact that the bill is in accordance with international standards by claiming that the OSCE and other Western bodies would go along with Ukraine which is seen as a counter to Russia.


Aside from usual propaganda methods, Russian politicians mainly focused on the fact that Russians had not been identified as an indigenous people. Russians are undoubtedly a large national minority in Ukraine, but quite clearly do not fit the above definition of an indigenous people.


What makes such purported indignation particularly absurd is that Russians would not be an indigenous people of Ukraine, according to Russian legislation, nor is the very large Ukrainian minority in the Russian Federation. There are no grounds for believing that Putin and his ruling party-dominated parliament are unaware of this. Quite the contrary, since, in 2016, the Kremlin commissioned a study by Sergey Sokolovskiy from the Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, aimed at ‘proving’, using entirely different arguments, that the Crimean Tatars should be considered a national minority, not an indigenous people (details here).
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

As soon as I can y'all get the links. A young Ukrainian not only fights for his homeland against Mongol invaders he takes the time to give the history of his people and tells how the original people of Ukraine have been under the invaders boots until more recent history.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Russia has been killing Ukrainians for years and they still try to find the bodies of those who have been killed by Russian invasions.


Wow! You are dead wrong on SO many levels!!!

First, the indigenous people of Ukraine are Russians. The ancestors of the Russian people were the 'Kieven Rus' and lived in the Kyiv area. The name 'Russian' comes from 'Rus'. Most of the non-Russian Ukrainians are descended from German and other east Europeans that migrated there during the Reign of Katherine the Great:


Second, it has been well known throughout the world that Western Ukrainians, under the leadership of Bandera, were allied with the Nazis. Bandera was awarded 'Hero of Ukraine' in 2010, but was revoked after world wide objections. Ukrainian nationalists still consider him a hero.

 
Putin had every right to be upset about that racist law.
If politicians tried to pass a law like that here in America, people would go ballistic and there'd be riots in the streets.
If Mexicans invaded and demanded that our children speak Spanish and slapped them around if they didn't we too would be insisting that our language be protected.

Fact is many have called for legislation making English the official language here.
 
Wow! You are dead wrong on SO many levels!!!

First, the indigenous people of Ukraine are Russians. The ancestors of the Russian people were the 'Kieven Rus' and lived in the Kyiv area. The name 'Russian' comes from 'Rus'. Most of the non-Russian Ukrainians are descended from German and other east Europeans that migrated there during the Reign of Katherine the Great:


Second, it has been well known throughout the world that Western Ukrainians, under the leadership of Bandera, were allied with the Nazis. Bandera was awarded 'Hero of Ukraine' in 2010, but was revoked after world wide objections. Ukrainian nationalists still consider him a hero.

No I am not. The indigenous people of the Ukraine were enslaved starting in November 1776 and freed from that bondage on August 24, 1991.
 
Yea, and the law to make English the official language didn't didn't happen..
But the Ukraine's racist laws were passed.
Its not racist to tell Russia to f' off and stay in their own country when they believe they can abuse another countries citizens.
 
Putin is a greedy blood thirsty thug and so are his dogs Kadyrov and all those investors backing them. They have innocent blood on their hands. May they all rot in hell.
What's your, Finnish mofo's, beef with Russia? As far as I remember Finland and USSR had great relations all through the cold war years. Remember your buddies' weekend benders in Leningrad? Have you quit drinking?
 
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Ukraine recognizes three Crimean peoples as indigenous, infuriating Russia


Ukraine recognizes three Crimean peoples as indigenous, infuriating Russia

Crimean Tatars and Their World: Lithographs made by Carlo Bossoli. The world of ancient Crimea in the mid XVIII century, some 50 years after the fall of the Crimean Khanate independence to the Russian empirial troops and the Ukrainian Cossacks, mass migration of Tatars into the Ottoman Empire, and some influx of Russian colonists.

2021/07/02 - 23:21 • International, Ukraine

Ukrainians are a separate country setting their own legislation not Russia's. Live with it.

Excerpt:
On 1 July, the majority of the MPs in the Ukrainian parliament – Verkhovna Rada – has voted for the President’s bill on indigenous peoples to protect the rights of autochthonous ethnic minorities. Experts see the adoption of the law as Ukraine’s success in building civilized interethnic relations within the country, Meanwhile, Russia doesn’t like the new legislation because it would rather prefer ethnic Russians to be considered indigenous in Ukraine.
The definition of the term indigenous people in the new legislation goes as follows,
“An indigenous people is an autochthonous ethnic community formed on the territory of Ukraine, having its original language and culture, having traditional, social, cultural or representative bodies, identifying itself as an indigenous people of Ukraine, being an ethnic minority in [Ukraine’s] population, and not having its own state formation outside Ukraine.”
Paragraph 2 of the first article of the law says that indigenous peoples of Ukraine “formed on the territory of the Crimean peninsula, are the Crimean Tatars, Karaites, Krymchaks.”
 

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