2016 Democratic Primary Debates

[rightwinger]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

 

[Bush92]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

 

[Bush92]

Democrat Party is no longer the party of blue collar workers. It's all latte liberals and crybabies.

 

[Picaro]

Democrat Party is no longer the party of blue collar workers. It's all latte liberals and crybabies.

Well, I'm a liberal and I don't see anything 'liberal' about the Democratic Party, but the first part is most certainly true.

This blogger sums it up in a nice accurate package, though I disagree with his timeline; the Democratic Party abandoned their true base a long time ago, in the 80's, and passed the 'Super Delegate Rule' to celebrate their crapping on the heads of those nasty uncouth little proles.

The Neo-Liberal War on Blue-Collar Whites and the Breakup of the Democratic Party NO QUARTER USA NET

An Obama nomination — after the selective but intentional disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida, the relentless race-baiting by Obama and his surrogates, and the venom from his supporters — is repugnant to many of us who, to use Arthur Schlesinger’s phrase, are unrepentant and unreconstructed liberals and New Dealers.

What we are witnessing is nothing short of the breakup of the historic Democratic coalition. Chris Bowers, Obama supporter and writer at Open Left, dreams of a cultural change in an Obama Democratic Party which is almost a parody of the brie and Chardonnay stereotype:

There should be a major cultural shift in the party, where the southern Dems and Liebercrat elite will be largely replaced by rising creative class types. Obama has all the markers of a creative class background, from his community organizing, to his Unitarianism, to being an academic, to living in Hyde Park to shopping at Whole Foods and drinking PBR. These will be the type of people running the Democratic Party now, and it will be a big cultural shift from the white working class focus of earlier decades.

Further illustrating their break with traditional liberalism, Markos Moulitsas has declared himself a libertarian Democrat, in other words: a politically correct Republican. These neo-liberals are really proposing a Party run by those who have little need for government and instead focus on identity politics, environmentalism, post-partisan government, and the rejection of American exceptionalism. The neo-liberals demonize the traditional Democratic base of poor white voters precisely because these voters rely on government and expect their leadership to fight partisan battles on their behalf. They are also deeply patriotic and weary of the moral relativism put forward by the likes of Jeremiah Wright.

Because of Obama’s anemic performances in West Virginia and Kentucky, the campaign and its supporters imagine a new Party. Sean Wilentz writes

the Barack Obama campaign and its sympathizers have begun to articulate much more clearly what they mean by their vague slogan of “change” – nothing less than usurping the historic Democratic Party, dating back to the age of Andrew Jackson, by rejecting its historic electoral core: white workers and rural dwellers in the Middle Atlantic and border states.

...

In whatever form our Party takes, the perpetrators of this breakup are the Obama campaign and the neo-liberals. It’s their demonization of low-income white Americans which is largely the cause of our coalition’s breakup. Wilentz continues:

Without a majority of those voters, the Democrats have, since the party’s inception in the 1820s, been incapable of winning the presidency. The Obama advocates declare, though, that we have entered an entirely new political era. It is not only possible but also desirable, they say, for Democrats to win by turning away from those whom “progressive” pundits and bloggers disdain variously as “Nascar man,” “uneducated,” “low information” whites, “rubes, fools, and hate-mongers” who live in the nation’s “shitholes.”​

It's a Party of narcissistic obnoxious Bo Bo racists and snotbags.​

 

[Bush92]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

Nope. Watch Ryan.

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

 

[rightwinger]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

Nope. Watch Ryan.

Ryan can't win the battleground states

Jeb can

 

[Bush92]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

That will not be because of a bias within the party. Look for Ayotte to be VP pick.

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

That will not be because of a bias within the party. Look for Ayotte to be VP pick.

LOL.....the same GOP that has elected six blacks in one hundred years is not biased?
The GOP that is 90% white is not biased?

Tell me about how you couldn't find anyone who is qualified that isn't white

 

[Bush92]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

Nope. Watch Ryan.

Ryan can't win the battleground states

Jeb can

How does the fact that Ryan is an outdoorsman and a bow hunter hurt him in Ohio? How does it hurt him in Iowa, New Mexico, and Maine? How does it hurt that he speaks the truth about the budget and our future? How does it hurt that he is pro business in a state like Maine (will go GOP in 2016), or any other state? How will it hurt him in Florida, a state where people move to because of its tax policy?

 

[Bush92]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

That will not be because of a bias within the party. Look for Ayotte to be VP pick.

LOL.....the same GOP that has elected six blacks in one hundred years is not biased?
The GOP that is 90% white is not biased?

Tell me about how you couldn't find anyone who is qualified that isn't white

Who is your qualified Black for 2016? Al Sharpton? Shelia Jackson Lee? Lol.

 

[rightwinger]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

Nope. Watch Ryan.

Ryan can't win the battleground states

Jeb can

How does the fact that Ryan is an outdoorsman and a bow hunter hurt him in Ohio? How does it hurt him in Iowa, New Mexico, and Maine? How does it hurt that he speaks the truth about the budget and our future? How does it hurt that he is pro business in a state like Maine (will go GOP in 2016), or any other state? How will it hurt him in Florida, a state where people move to because of its tax policy?

That's it?

He is going to run in being a bow hunter? He still has to run on being Paul Ryan

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

That will not be because of a bias within the party. Look for Ayotte to be VP pick.

LOL.....the same GOP that has elected six blacks in one hundred years is not biased?
The GOP that is 90% white is not biased?

Tell me about how you couldn't find anyone who is qualified that isn't white

Who is your qualified Black for 2016? Al Sharpton? Shelia Jackson Lee? Lol.

I'll take Corey Booker in 2024

Which white male will republicans offer up.

 

[Bush92]

I feel Democrat field is weak.

Against Jeb and Fatty Magoo?

Ryan, Huntsman, even Perry are superior to Billary, the Indian Princess Marxist, and Grrrrrrffff Joe Biden.

Damn....you better hope the GOP has better than that

Hint....Jeb Bush is your only hope

Nope. Watch Ryan.

Ryan can't win the battleground states

Jeb can

How does the fact that Ryan is an outdoorsman and a bow hunter hurt him in Ohio? How does it hurt him in Iowa, New Mexico, and Maine? How does it hurt that he speaks the truth about the budget and our future? How does it hurt that he is pro business in a state like Maine (will go GOP in 2016), or any other state? How will it hurt him in Florida, a state where people move to because of its tax policy?

That's it?

He is going to run in being a bow hunter? He still has to run on being Paul Ryan

What's wrong with that?

 

[Bush92]

Ahhhhh my clairvoyant powers have allowed me to see into the future. I have a vision of the opening statements of the first Democratic debate. O'Malley is hugging Hillary's leg hoping for a VP nod. Jerry Brown is out front of the auditorium with protesters.

Moderator: The candidates will now introduce themselves.

Warren: I'm Liz Warren and I'm a Native American princess. Our first Americans were socialist like me.

Hillary: Did you like my husbands presidency in the 1990's? I will build a bridge to the 20th century.

Biden: I'm Joe Biden and Goddammit I'm angry!!!!
the GOP chances against this cast of characters are really good. I feel Democrat field is weak.

Republicans are incapable of beating any one of them

I'd like to hear what Warren has to say. She is an excellent speaker and appeals to average Americans

Really ok just wondering did Hillary get the last nomination? Joe will be kicked to the curb ,that leave Warren appeals to only the left,you don't get out much do you? Time will tell,but its not going to be a Clinton.

In all probability it will be Clinton and she will win easily

Warren would make a better president

Ill bet ya this, it won't be a white male. The only way a white male will get the Democrats nomination if he gay and married to his boy toy.

I will guarantee you the GOP nominee will be a white male

That will not be because of a bias within the party. Look for Ayotte to be VP pick.

LOL.....the same GOP that has elected six blacks in one hundred years is not biased?
The GOP that is 90% white is not biased?

Tell me about how you couldn't find anyone who is qualified that isn't white

Who is your qualified Black for 2016? Al Sharpton? Shelia Jackson Lee? Lol.

I'll take Corey Booker in 2024

Which white male will republicans offer up.

2016. Booker, like Marion Bairy, Jesse Jr., and Ray Ray Nagin is going to be done by then.

 

[Bush92]

Paul Ryan will run on being a family man, a hard worker with common sense that does not pander to every group of the rainbow coalition, and is not a crybaby social justice whiner.

 

[william the wie]

Like most,you do have to factor voter fatigue,the white house isnt helping,the dems road a perfect storm in and will paddle out all wet. the worm just might turn as it always does at some point. But then 2016 is political light years away.

Why do you think the fix will be extreme?

Ocare created European style labor force rigidities as in employing someone more than 30 hours adds enormous expense.

 

[Agit8r]

Paul Ryan will run on being a family man, a hard worker with common sense that does not pander to every group of the rainbow coalition, and is not a crybaby social justice whiner.

Well, you can hope his poll numbers improve, but...

35 View Paul Ryan Favorably 54 Unfavorably - Rasmussen Reports trade

 

[Bush92]

Poll numbers are meant to be changed.

 

[chikenwing]

Like most,you do have to factor voter fatigue,the white house isnt helping,the dems road a perfect storm in and will paddle out all wet. the worm just might turn as it always does at some point. But then 2016 is political light years away.

Why do you think the fix will be extreme?

Ocare created European style labor force rigidities as in employing someone more than 30 hours adds enormous expense.

True and those effects will not show up large scale until the employer mandate is enforced.