2004 study by Bush Admin discovered oil rig parts...

[The T]

With the left [That focuses ON Race/Ethnicity]? It's readily apparent...as they try to stick the 'Racist' Moniker on those that don't tow their line.

They're duplicitous projectionists that just cannot help themselves.

yeah, the 'Niggar' sign being held by a Tea Party founder was all a leftist plot

First learn to spell Union THUG.

 

[Dante]

So a mechanical engineer could not determine the correct tinsel strength needed but a Bush admin regulator could have?

there was an argument in the BUSH admin on how to go---they went with the wrong argument. Now we pay for it and the profits keep rolling...

Gotchya!

gotcha?

you have the wrong guy

 

[Dante]

With the left [That focuses ON Race/Ethnicity]? It's readily apparent...as they try to stick the 'Racist' Moniker on those that don't tow their line.

They're duplicitous projectionists that just cannot help themselves.

yeah, the 'Niggar' sign being held by a Tea Party founder was all a leftist plot

First learn to spell Union THUG.

D'oh! The sign a founder of the Tea Party Movement was holding read "Niggar"

 

[Valerie]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

I found this interesting info:

Halliburton

It’s hard to have a worse public image than Halliburton, the multinational engineering firm whose image took a beating during the first part of the Iraq War. But the company may well get slugged again over the Gulf accident, too. The latest accusation: The cement slurry Halliburton was pumping into the drill hole prior to the Horizon’s explosion may have in fact been at fault.

The Los Angeles Times describes what Halliburton was doing at the site:

After an exploration well is drilled, cement slurry is pumped through a steel pipe or casing and out through a check valve at the bottom of the casing. It then travels up the outside of the pipe, sheathing the part of the pipe surrounded by the oil and gas zone. When the cement hardens, it is supposed to prevent oil or gas from leaking into adjacent zones along the pipe.

As the cement sets, the check valve at the end of the casing prevents any material from flowing back up the pipe. The zone is thus isolated until the company is ready to start production.

The process is tricky. A 2007 study by the U.S. Minerals Management Service found that cementing was the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period.

The bad news for Halliburton is that a number of experts think the accident probably originated in the pipe that the cement was being pumped into. The good news for the company is that investigators may find it difficult to tell whether the cement did its job or not, especially if BP is successful in dropping massive concrete domes on top of the leaks to stop them.

The feds

Federal oversight of oil drilling rigs and platforms in the Gulf is intense; the Interior Department’s Mineral Management Service inspectors often travel between drilling sites, proactively checking up on documentation and procedures. However, the Wall Street Journal has dug into a story that suggests that Fed oversight failed at a much earlier point.

Undersea drilling is immensely complicated, so the MMS is also involved in permitting the various equipment used. From the WSJ:

Federal regulators learned in a 2004 study that a vital piece of oil-drilling safety equipment may not function in deep-water seas but did nothing to bolster industry requirements … The equipment, called shear rams, is supposed to seal off out-of-control oil and gas wells by pinching the pipe closed and cutting it.

In 2004, a study commissioned by the MMS raised significant questions about the ability of rams to cut through the stronger pipes used in deep-water drilling. Those thicker pipes—as well as the shear rams—must withstand the enormous pressures found at 5,000 feet below sea level …

Only three of 14 newly build rigs had blowout preventers that were able to squeeze off and cut the pipe at the water pressure likely to be experienced at the equipment’s maximum water depth, the study noted.

Whether the shear rams could crimp the pipe may turn out to be a moot point, if they system that was supposed to relay the command to the rams failed. On the other hand, if the rams functioned but didn’t fulfill their job, the Fed may suddenly find itself the target of public anger, along with Transocean, which bought the rams, and Cameron International, the manufacturer.

The WSJ story, in fact, says that the Fed study singled out Cameron for doing a bad job calculating the amount of force their shear rams needed to apply. But for now, all of these allegations are still at the stage of finger-pointing, and more potential culprits may emerge over the coming weeks.

Gulf Oil Spill: Who's to Blame? BP, Halliburton and the Feds Are All Implicated | BNET Energy Blog | BNET

I wonder why they cant funnel down a huge drop of cement right now!

 

[Dante]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

I found this interesting info:

Halliburton

It’s hard to have a worse public image than Halliburton, the multinational engineering firm whose image took a beating during the first part of the Iraq War. But the company may well get slugged again over the Gulf accident, too. The latest accusation: The cement slurry Halliburton was pumping into the drill hole prior to the Horizon’s explosion may have in fact been at fault.

The Los Angeles Times describes what Halliburton was doing at the site:

After an exploration well is drilled, cement slurry is pumped through a steel pipe or casing and out through a check valve at the bottom of the casing. It then travels up the outside of the pipe, sheathing the part of the pipe surrounded by the oil and gas zone. When the cement hardens, it is supposed to prevent oil or gas from leaking into adjacent zones along the pipe.

As the cement sets, the check valve at the end of the casing prevents any material from flowing back up the pipe. The zone is thus isolated until the company is ready to start production.

The process is tricky. A 2007 study by the U.S. Minerals Management Service found that cementing was the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period.

The bad news for Halliburton is that a number of experts think the accident probably originated in the pipe that the cement was being pumped into. The good news for the company is that investigators may find it difficult to tell whether the cement did its job or not, especially if BP is successful in dropping massive concrete domes on top of the leaks to stop them.

The feds

Federal oversight of oil drilling rigs and platforms in the Gulf is intense; the Interior Department’s Mineral Management Service inspectors often travel between drilling sites, proactively checking up on documentation and procedures. However, the Wall Street Journal has dug into a story that suggests that Fed oversight failed at a much earlier point.

Undersea drilling is immensely complicated, so the MMS is also involved in permitting the various equipment used. From the WSJ:

Federal regulators learned in a 2004 study that a vital piece of oil-drilling safety equipment may not function in deep-water seas but did nothing to bolster industry requirements … The equipment, called shear rams, is supposed to seal off out-of-control oil and gas wells by pinching the pipe closed and cutting it.

In 2004, a study commissioned by the MMS raised significant questions about the ability of rams to cut through the stronger pipes used in deep-water drilling. Those thicker pipes—as well as the shear rams—must withstand the enormous pressures found at 5,000 feet below sea level …

Only three of 14 newly build rigs had blowout preventers that were able to squeeze off and cut the pipe at the water pressure likely to be experienced at the equipment’s maximum water depth, the study noted.

Whether the shear rams could crimp the pipe may turn out to be a moot point, if they system that was supposed to relay the command to the rams failed. On the other hand, if the rams functioned but didn’t fulfill their job, the Fed may suddenly find itself the target of public anger, along with Transocean, which bought the rams, and Cameron International, the manufacturer.

The WSJ story, in fact, says that the Fed study singled out Cameron for doing a bad job calculating the amount of force their shear rams needed to apply. But for now, all of these allegations are still at the stage of finger-pointing, and more potential culprits may emerge over the coming weeks.

Gulf Oil Spill: Who's to Blame? BP, Halliburton and the Feds Are All Implicated | BNET Energy Blog | BNET

I wonder why they cant funnel down a huge drop of cement right now!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/115871-should-usmb-have-a-literacy-test-requirement-for-membership.html

 

[Valerie]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

I found this interesting info:

Halliburton

It’s hard to have a worse public image than Halliburton, the multinational engineering firm whose image took a beating during the first part of the Iraq War. But the company may well get slugged again over the Gulf accident, too. The latest accusation: The cement slurry Halliburton was pumping into the drill hole prior to the Horizon’s explosion may have in fact been at fault.

The Los Angeles Times describes what Halliburton was doing at the site:

After an exploration well is drilled, cement slurry is pumped through a steel pipe or casing and out through a check valve at the bottom of the casing. It then travels up the outside of the pipe, sheathing the part of the pipe surrounded by the oil and gas zone. When the cement hardens, it is supposed to prevent oil or gas from leaking into adjacent zones along the pipe.

As the cement sets, the check valve at the end of the casing prevents any material from flowing back up the pipe. The zone is thus isolated until the company is ready to start production.

The process is tricky. A 2007 study by the U.S. Minerals Management Service found that cementing was the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period.

The bad news for Halliburton is that a number of experts think the accident probably originated in the pipe that the cement was being pumped into. The good news for the company is that investigators may find it difficult to tell whether the cement did its job or not, especially if BP is successful in dropping massive concrete domes on top of the leaks to stop them.

The feds

Federal oversight of oil drilling rigs and platforms in the Gulf is intense; the Interior Department’s Mineral Management Service inspectors often travel between drilling sites, proactively checking up on documentation and procedures. However, the Wall Street Journal has dug into a story that suggests that Fed oversight failed at a much earlier point.

Undersea drilling is immensely complicated, so the MMS is also involved in permitting the various equipment used. From the WSJ:

Federal regulators learned in a 2004 study that a vital piece of oil-drilling safety equipment may not function in deep-water seas but did nothing to bolster industry requirements … The equipment, called shear rams, is supposed to seal off out-of-control oil and gas wells by pinching the pipe closed and cutting it.

In 2004, a study commissioned by the MMS raised significant questions about the ability of rams to cut through the stronger pipes used in deep-water drilling. Those thicker pipes—as well as the shear rams—must withstand the enormous pressures found at 5,000 feet below sea level …

Only three of 14 newly build rigs had blowout preventers that were able to squeeze off and cut the pipe at the water pressure likely to be experienced at the equipment’s maximum water depth, the study noted.

Whether the shear rams could crimp the pipe may turn out to be a moot point, if they system that was supposed to relay the command to the rams failed. On the other hand, if the rams functioned but didn’t fulfill their job, the Fed may suddenly find itself the target of public anger, along with Transocean, which bought the rams, and Cameron International, the manufacturer.

The WSJ story, in fact, says that the Fed study singled out Cameron for doing a bad job calculating the amount of force their shear rams needed to apply. But for now, all of these allegations are still at the stage of finger-pointing, and more potential culprits may emerge over the coming weeks.

Gulf Oil Spill: Who's to Blame? BP, Halliburton and the Feds Are All Implicated | BNET Energy Blog | BNET

I wonder why they cant funnel down a huge drop of cement right now!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/115871-should-usmb-have-a-literacy-test-requirement-for-membership.html

I mean HUGE! Funnel that shit like it's my Social Security fund NOW!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

obama has had time, he didn't take action, it's his watch..

Good point, he is Superman, capable of saving the economy, saving people in Tenn from drowning, and rolling back all the stupid shit the Bush admin did.

Good deflection from your hero.

ROFL... No Ravi, that is how he was SOLD to the fools. Americans understood that the Brown Clown was incompetent.

Secondly, do ya feel a little dirty about creating a thread on hearsay, in the Current events forum?

I mean, ya have implied in your title that GW Bush authored a Study exposing depth limitations on some equipment; further implying that the equipment in the respective well was using that equipment, and that GW Bush new that and did nothing about it; thus Bush was responsible for the disaster; EVEN AS YOU REJECT IN TOTALITY ANY RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PART OF THE BROWN CLOWN; Oka: The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

ROFL... Oh you're ALL OVER IT!

Here's a clue: The Operator of the well is responsible for the spill.

 

[uscitizen]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

obama has had time, he didn't take action, it's his watch..

Good point, he is Superman, capable of saving the economy, saving people in Tenn from drowning, and rolling back all the stupid shit the Bush admin did.

Good deflection from your hero.

The bastich did not even fix my flat tire.

 

[Dante]

I found this interesting info:









I wonder why they cant funnel down a huge drop of cement right now!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/115871-should-usmb-have-a-literacy-test-requirement-for-membership.html

I mean HUGE! Funnel that shit like it's my Social Security fund NOW!

 

[uscitizen]

In a letter sent last year to the Department of the Interior, BP objected to what it called "extensive, prescriptive regulations" proposed in new rules to toughen safety standards. "We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics demonstrate that the voluntary programs…continue to be very successful."

BP Fought Safety Measures at Deepwater Oil Rigs - ABC News

 

[Valerie]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

I found this interesting info:

Halliburton

It’s hard to have a worse public image than Halliburton, the multinational engineering firm whose image took a beating during the first part of the Iraq War. But the company may well get slugged again over the Gulf accident, too. The latest accusation: The cement slurry Halliburton was pumping into the drill hole prior to the Horizon’s explosion may have in fact been at fault.

The Los Angeles Times describes what Halliburton was doing at the site:

After an exploration well is drilled, cement slurry is pumped through a steel pipe or casing and out through a check valve at the bottom of the casing. It then travels up the outside of the pipe, sheathing the part of the pipe surrounded by the oil and gas zone. When the cement hardens, it is supposed to prevent oil or gas from leaking into adjacent zones along the pipe.

As the cement sets, the check valve at the end of the casing prevents any material from flowing back up the pipe. The zone is thus isolated until the company is ready to start production.

The process is tricky. A 2007 study by the U.S. Minerals Management Service found that cementing was the single most-important factor in 18 of 39 well blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico over a 14-year period.

The bad news for Halliburton is that a number of experts think the accident probably originated in the pipe that the cement was being pumped into. The good news for the company is that investigators may find it difficult to tell whether the cement did its job or not, especially if BP is successful in dropping massive concrete domes on top of the leaks to stop them.

The feds

Federal oversight of oil drilling rigs and platforms in the Gulf is intense; the Interior Department’s Mineral Management Service inspectors often travel between drilling sites, proactively checking up on documentation and procedures. However, the Wall Street Journal has dug into a story that suggests that Fed oversight failed at a much earlier point.

Undersea drilling is immensely complicated, so the MMS is also involved in permitting the various equipment used. From the WSJ:

Federal regulators learned in a 2004 study that a vital piece of oil-drilling safety equipment may not function in deep-water seas but did nothing to bolster industry requirements … The equipment, called shear rams, is supposed to seal off out-of-control oil and gas wells by pinching the pipe closed and cutting it.

In 2004, a study commissioned by the MMS raised significant questions about the ability of rams to cut through the stronger pipes used in deep-water drilling. Those thicker pipes—as well as the shear rams—must withstand the enormous pressures found at 5,000 feet below sea level …

Only three of 14 newly build rigs had blowout preventers that were able to squeeze off and cut the pipe at the water pressure likely to be experienced at the equipment’s maximum water depth, the study noted.

Whether the shear rams could crimp the pipe may turn out to be a moot point, if they system that was supposed to relay the command to the rams failed. On the other hand, if the rams functioned but didn’t fulfill their job, the Fed may suddenly find itself the target of public anger, along with Transocean, which bought the rams, and Cameron International, the manufacturer.

The WSJ story, in fact, says that the Fed study singled out Cameron for doing a bad job calculating the amount of force their shear rams needed to apply. But for now, all of these allegations are still at the stage of finger-pointing, and more potential culprits may emerge over the coming weeks.

Gulf Oil Spill: Who's to Blame? BP, Halliburton and the Feds Are All Implicated | BNET Energy Blog | BNET

 

[Valerie]

Federal regulators learned in a 2004 study that a vital piece of oil-drilling safety equipment may not function in deep-water seas but did nothing to bolster industry requirements.

The equipment, called shear rams, is supposed to seal off out-of-control oil and gas wells by pinching the pipe closed and cutting it.

As oil companies drilled wells in deeper water, the shear rams had to become stronger and manufacturers responded. But the federally commissioned study questioned whether enough was known about the force required to shear off a pipe at these depths to set proper standards.

Safety Device Questioned in '04 - WSJ.com

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[ABikerSailor]

Let's see.......Bush Jr. and Cheney removed some of the restrictions on offshore drilling which contributed towards this accident by allowing them to not install proper safety equipment.

Cheney's previous company, Halliburton, is now implicated in the worst ecological disaster this country has ever had for doing shoddy work with the well, just like they did with Walter Reed and the barracks in Iraq that electrocuted soldiers in the shower.

It isn't Bush and Cheney's fault HOW?

 

[Valerie]

The cause of the oil well blow-out remains unclear. Petroleum engineers say it was probably related to the cementing process, which is supposed to secure the well and prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling in the space around the pipe and plugging the well.

But once workers lost control of the well, which was spewing a flammable mixture of crude oil and natural gas, the blowout preventer became the only option for stopping the flow.

Investigators are expected to focus on whether the blowout preventer received a signal from workers on the rig. The Deepwater Horizon wasn't equipped with a backup remote trigger that is a common drill-rig requirement in other oil-producing nations, but not the U.S.

If the blowout preventer did receive the signal, experts say, a critical question is why the rams didn't seal off the well.

Some newer rigs have blowout preventers with two separate pairs of shear rams—providing an added safeguard in case one shear malfunctions or hits an obstruction in the pipe. The Deepwater Horizon had a single pair of shear rams.

The Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, which regulates offshore drilling, questioned whether shear rams were strong enough to shear through a pipe.

In two offshore incidents in 2001, the rams didn't work as expected. The agency issued new rules in 2003 instructing the oil industry to make sure the rams would work reliably.

In 2004, a study commissioned by the MMS raised significant questions about the ability of rams to cut through the stronger pipes used in deep-water drilling. Those thicker pipes—as well as the shear rams—must withstand the enormous pressures found at 5,000 feet below sea level.

The study noted there was no agreement on how to determine if the sheer rams would work properly in deep-water conditions.

Safety Device Questioned in '04 - WSJ.com

 

[WillowTree]

Let's see.......Bush Jr. and Cheney removed some of the restrictions on offshore drilling which contributed towards this accident by allowing them to not install proper safety equipment.

Cheney's previous company, Halliburton, is now implicated in the worst ecological disaster this country has ever had for doing shoddy work with the well, just like they did with Walter Reed and the barracks in Iraq that electrocuted soldiers in the shower.

It isn't Bush and Cheney's fault HOW?

because obie wan messiah has had ample time to make the necessary corrections.. anndddd it happened on his watch.. no excuses.. libtard.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Let's see.......Bush Jr. and Cheney removed some of the restrictions on offshore drilling which contributed towards this accident by allowing them to not install proper safety equipment.

Cheney's previous company, Halliburton, is now implicated in the worst ecological disaster this country has ever had for doing shoddy work with the well, just like they did with Walter Reed and the barracks in Iraq that electrocuted soldiers in the shower.

It isn't Bush and Cheney's fault HOW?

because obie wan messiah has had ample time to make the necessary corrections.. anndddd it happened on his watch.. no excuses.. libtard.

Hey........Shallow Skeeve...........what part did you miss about Bush Jr. removing the restrictions, or about Halliburton providing the slurry that failed?

For someone who claims to be intelligent, all I see is a petulant soggy matted pussy with a pissed off attitude and ZERO intelligence.

Nice try you crusty sperm burping skank. Fuck off ya goddamn pedant, go please purists.

 

[Valerie]

Let's see.......Bush Jr. and Cheney removed some of the restrictions on offshore drilling which contributed towards this accident by allowing them to not install proper safety equipment.

Cheney's previous company, Halliburton, is now implicated in the worst ecological disaster this country has ever had for doing shoddy work with the well, just like they did with Walter Reed and the barracks in Iraq that electrocuted soldiers in the shower.

It isn't Bush and Cheney's fault HOW?

because obie wan messiah has had ample time to make the necessary corrections.. anndddd it happened on his watch.. no excuses.. libtard.

Hey........Shallow Skeeve...........what part did you miss about Bush Jr. removing the restrictions, or about Halliburton providing the slurry that failed?

For someone who claims to be intelligent, all I see is a petulant soggy matted pussy with a pissed off attitude and ZERO intelligence.

Nice try you crusty sperm burping skank. Fuck off ya goddamn pedant, go please purists.

 

[The T]

yeah, the 'Niggar' sign being held by a Tea Party founder was all a leftist plot

First learn to spell Union THUG.

D'oh! The sign a founder of the Tea Party Movement was holding read "Niggar"

Typical Unionmongering THUG...deflect O/T.

 

[Dante]

First learn to spell Union THUG.

D'oh! The sign a founder of the Tea Party Movement was holding read "Niggar"

Typical Unionmongering THUG...deflect O/T.

 

[Ravi]

wouldn't hold up at depths we operated at...but no action was taken.

I heard this on some talk show today and can't find anything about it at the moment.

Anyone?

BP Fought Safety Measures at Deepwater Oil Rigs
Owner of Louisiana Oil Well Objected to System That Would Have Shut Off Spill


Fox And Friends Pushes ‘Conspiracy Theory’ That Massive Oil Spill Was ‘Deliberate’ ‘Sabotage’ -Think Progress Home Page

I don't think that was it...it was about something they were currently using that was found to fail or not rated to work at that depth but the oil rigs were allowed to continue using it.