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1969, 14 have come from Republican presidents, and only four from Democrats.

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If our government doesn't represent everyone it is hardly a democracy. Ours is in need of some serious fixing.
If a Pres. gets 2 elections then you'd get 2, 1 election you get 1
The court should be made bigger, that way if could say 20, that way an equal vote should be null and void and it would take up the slack of being really small.
 

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If a Pres. gets 2 elections then you'd get 2, 1 election you get 1
The court should be made bigger, that way if could say 20, that way an equal vote should be null and void and it would take up the slack of being really small.
Not a bad idea. Or maybe have the longest serving justice retire at the end of the new President's term (assuming none have died in the previous 4 years). If he gets re-elected the same thing happens at the end of his second term.
 
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Not a bad idea. Or maybe have the longest serving justice retire at the end of the new President's term (assuming none have died in the previous 4 years). If he gets re-elected the same thing happens at the end of his second term.
Yes. I wish we would vote in SC judges.
 

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It was a terrible ballot design. I think we can all agree on that. I can't think of any arrangement of the names of candidates where placing Buchanan between Bush and Gore would make any sense. But I do also think that voters did bear some responsibility to be careful and take the time to ensure that they were indeed indicating on the ballot which candidate they had wanted to vote for, and not going so fast and jumping to conclusions about how the candidates were listed.
Respectfully disagree. Democracy is about letting people vote for their choice, not imposing some kind of puzzle on how to do so.
 

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Bad example? They enforced the existing law by stopping endless additional recounts.
Don't think so. They completely reversed course on an expansionist equal protection clause, which they had opposed roughly forever, and then used their suddenly-expanded EP clause to jut into states' ability to control their own elections, which they had always said was one of the most basic rights states had thanks to federalism.

In simple terms, they contradicted everything conservativism had ever said before to prevent a recount. Not endless recounts, but one recount that they feared might lead to GWB losing to Gore. (Which it wouldn't have anyway, but they didn't know that.) It was intellectual dishonesty, on the scale of RvW, to serve a Republican political purpose.
 

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Bad example? They enforced the existing law by stopping endless additional recounts.

Sorry, spamming multiple replies is generally bad, but I do wonder if you have any basis for this. "[E]ndless additional recounts is really a Trump 2020 thing, no prior pol I am aware of attacked every result they didn't like, launched dozens of lawsuits, and when those failed supported partisan "recounts" of every close-ish state result they didn't like.

By contrast, in 2000, Florida law, per Florida SCOTUS, demanded a single recount, which SCOTUS prevented from happening. It was not "additional" recounts, much less "endless" "additional" recounts -- Rs on SCOTUS used a judicial philosophy totally in contradiction to all their prior philosophy and decisions to block that one recount so the result they liked could not be challenged.
 

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Of the 18 justices confirmed since 1969, 14 have come from Republican presidents, and only four from Democrats. A few GOP appointees, notably Harry Blackmun and David Souter, in time voted consistently with the liberal wing. But conservatives have dominated. (Senate Republicans in 2016 prevented a vote on Democrat Barack Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland.)

If they repeal Roe verses Wade, that would make the judges in error when they ok'd it, or would deny it. They were right the first time.
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The reality is that in 1973, Roe vs. Wade was decided by a Court that was comprised of a majority of justices who were nominated by Republican presidents. The vote on Roe vs. Wade was 7-2.Nov 6, 2016
Roe v. Wade Was Decided By A Republican-Nominated Supreme Court

Roe v. Wade Was Decided By A Republican-Nominated ...

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and its been republican nominated ever since.

The whole political system is creaking, it's so out of date it's ridiculous.
 

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Not a bad idea. Or maybe have the longest serving justice retire at the end of the new President's term (assuming none have died in the previous 4 years). If he gets re-elected the same thing happens at the end of his second term.
There are 1000 better ways to run SCOTUS, that's not the hard part. The issue is that when one party has control (Rs, in recent decades), they don't want to find a better way, they just want to take advantage of their upper hand to force their politics on the rest of the country.
 

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Of the 18 justices confirmed since 1969, 14 have come from Republican presidents, and only four from Democrats. A few GOP appointees, notably Harry Blackmun and David Souter, in time voted consistently with the liberal wing. But conservatives have dominated. (Senate Republicans in 2016 prevented a vote on Democrat Barack Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland.)

If they repeal Roe verses Wade, that would make the judges in error when they ok'd it, or would deny it. They were right the first time.
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The reality is that in 1973, Roe vs. Wade was decided by a Court that was comprised of a majority of justices who were nominated by Republican presidents. The vote on Roe vs. Wade was 7-2.Nov 6, 2016
Roe v. Wade Was Decided By A Republican-Nominated Supreme Court

Roe v. Wade Was Decided By A Republican-Nominated ...

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and its been republican nominated ever since.
Roe v. Wade should never have been decided by the Supreme Court. It was and is a state issue.
 
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There are 1000 better ways to run SCOTUS, that's not the hard part. The issue is that when one party has control (Rs, in recent decades), they don't want to find a better way, they just want to take advantage of their upper hand to force their politics on the rest of the country.
Specifically, what is a better way to run the SCOTUS?
 

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That’s one reason 2000 was so important they stole the election. Who decided Florida? That’s right. The Supreme Court and Jeb bush cronies.

That is a lie and one that probably makes you feel comfortable.

 

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Roe v. Wade should never have been decided by the Supreme Court. It was and is a state issue.
Would you say the same about Civil Rights laws? Jim Crow might be alive and well if left to the states.
 

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By contrast, in 2000, Florida law, per Florida SCOTUS, demanded a single recount, which SCOTUS prevented from happening.

What recounts did they have before SCOTUS butted in?
 

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That is a lie and one that probably makes you feel comfortable.

Yea so they had to throw out thousands of black votes because of hanging chads. And many people voted for Pat Buchanan when they meant to vote for Gore.

Remember, the woman in charge was a Republican but switched parties in 1996. That means they were planning this for 4 years.

Don't believe that? Well look at PNAC. They were also planning out the Iraq war in the 90's too. So Bush KNEW he was going to be president. Or he had one ace up his sleeve. His brother was Governor of Florida.

Imagine if Hunter Biden was Governor of Georgia. You guys think a Republican Governor in Georgia stole the election from you. Now imagine if Biden's son was in charge of the state. You're a fucking moron. You'll believe 5 states were stolen but ignore the facts on how the Bush's stole Florida. They even had their own "insurrection". The Brooks brother riots. Republicans rioted to stop the count. Fuck off you stupid bitch.
 

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That lie was debunked decades ago.
Was it? When? History says otherwise.


At issue: Some holes were not completely punched out of the ballots. “A chad that was not punched out all the way—i.e. was still hanging by one, two or even three corners to the ballot—was called a ‘hanging chad.’” Busch says. “Election officials had to devise standards by which to count the ballots with hanging chads. Do you count it as a valid vote as long as there is some evidence that a voter tried to cast a vote? Do you only count it if three of the four corners are knocked out? Something in between? No consistent standard was developed, which was a key issue in Bush v. Gore.”

After lawsuits, challenges and recounts, the Florida Supreme Court ordered a recount of undervotes in all of Florida's 67 counties, which was quickly appealed by Bush, and the case headed to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 

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