12 years ago, Moscow predatory imperialists tried to seize Ukrainian city Odesa. VIDEO, INFO, PICTURES

[MisterBeale]

No one else was capable of doing that.

Russia likely would have lost without the help of the other allies.

 

[Litwin]

Russians were commies then.

Are you alright, or did you just wake up and start bleeving it is 1950?

do you think that they are not the dirty commies today ?

Russians name Stalin as the most ‘outstanding’ figure of all times

The renowned Levada Centre has carried out a survey to find out whom Russians would name as the “ten most outstanding [выдающиеся) figures of all times and nations”.

archive.khpg.org

 

[Litwin]

Russia likely would have lost without the help of the other allies.

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yes, even stalin, khrushchev and zhukov (nicknames grishka catafalque, the butcher) said it officially. but don´t tell it to our ivan imprleists, will get a stoke

Thread 'Zhukov (nickname Grishka Catafalque): "... it cannot be denied that the USA sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or co'

Jan 14, 2025

WHAT our Moscow imperialistic & pro Moscow members think-feel about it ?

In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Bolshevik Marshal Georgy Zhukov (nickname Grishka Catafalque) saying: "... it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."...

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[Zavulon]

Because they were “сommies,” they defeated the nazis. No one else was capable of doing that. Deal with it.

Do you think, that the Russians were "commies" back in 1812, 1614 or even 1242?
What was more important for the Soviet ideology - some European ideas or the bulk of moral and intellectual conceptions which makes Russian people (of any origins) Russian? What is more important for making a person - fairy tales he or she listening in his/her cradle, or lectures about Scientific Communism he or she listeng in a University and forget right after exam? What is the basis, and what is mere thingies?

 

[Zavulon]

Russia likely would have lost without the help of the other allies.

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$11 bln in 1945 is more or less equal to $200 bln now. And Biden alone gave Ukraine $300 bln (say nothing Europe and other guys). Did Ukraine win? No. Is it somehow close to defeating Russia? No.

American help was very important, thank you very much, it saved many thousands, may be even some millions of lifes, but it definitely didn't change the final outcome.

 

[Ringo]

What was more important for the Soviet ideology - some European ideas or the bulk of moral and intellectual conceptions which makes Russian people (of any origins) Russian?

In 1917, the number of deserters from the Russian army fighting the germans exceeded 1 million. The rest were not exactly eager to give their lives for the “Dardanelles” either.
The Soviet regime gave people a reason for which they were prepared to engage in mass heroism in the new war against the germans. In 1941, the masses still remembered life under the tsar and knew full well, why they were ready to fight to the end.

 

[Zavulon]

In 1917, the number of deserters from the Russian army fighting the germans exceeded 1 million. The rest were not exactly eager to give their lives for the “Dardanelles” either.

More than half of Russian oligarchs, back in 1914-1917 understood, that "allies" of Russia - England and France, won't give then the Straits, and, say more, if the war continues the way it was going, Russia would become their half-colony. Say, Savva Morozov sponsored the Revolution pretty well.

The Soviet regime gave people a reason for which they were prepared to engage in mass heroism in the new war against the germans. In 1941, the masses still remembered life under the tsar and knew full well, why they were ready to fight to the end.

Yep. After the short period of War Communism, when Revolutionary power tryed to play by Marx and Engels books, new Soviet government studied how to rule the economy - New Economic Policy (in fact, restoration of Capitalism), then first five year plans and forced industrialisation, they have found more or less working balance between government control and private initiative.

The people followed them not because their ideological rhetoric, but because they actually made people's life much better.

That's the difference. Smart commies (who didn't play by book) - made people's life better and won the war. Stupid commies (who tryed to play by obsolete book and made people's life worse than expectations) - chickend out to fight WWIII and almost nobody tryed to defend them.

Keyword, I believe, is "being smart" not "being commie". And Communistic ideology (however useful in certain time) couldn't make anybody smart automatically. Especially when one doesn't study ideology, and just mastrubate on Dainenko pictures.