11th Circuit Strikes Down Special Master From Trump's Judge. Orders Entire Case Dismissed

[WorldWatcher]

Nonsense. Of the docs weren’t actually classified, there is no viable crime at all.

This is not true.

None of the three statutes cited in the Search Warrant as possible crimes required the documents to actually be classified. The ones under the Espionage Act merely require them to be national defense information (which does not mean classified).

Then there are laws against theft of government property. Failure to return national defense information when contacted by and to a government official who has responsibility to receive such information. Then of course there are obstruction of justice charges not relating to classified documents based on the FPOTUS stonewalling the NARA for 16 months as they tried to get Presidential Records returned, failure to comply with a Grand Jury subpoena for the return of classified documents and then lying in the certification that all had been returned. All of which resulted in the August search warrant.

There are crimes pending which have nothing to do with documents being "classified", the fact that they are a priori classified until such time as the FPOTUS makes the claim they declassified in court and then presents evidence to show they were declassified is just an enhancement of the possible charges.

The final hope would be that the 11th Circuits decision would be appealed to the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS will save the FPOTUS's requested Special Master process. However the SCOTUS just turned away a similar appeal involving the same FPOTUS and the same case - relating specifically to classified documents - leaving the 11th Circuits ruling in place. The likely hood is the SCOTUS will not be intervening.

WW

 

[Frankenstein]

Stripping people of their rights so you can turn them into a crimes is 100% MAGA.

What rights was Trump denied with the Margo-Largo search?

Show me a right that says you can kill your child in the constitution!

 

[BackAgain]

I love it when they call me MAGA, as if it were some searingly witty insult.

They're funniest when they think they are hurting your feelings. If calling you MAGA is what does that for them, so be it!


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Why wouldn’t any caring & reasonable American not want to make America great again or just simply greater than it is?

 

[BackAgain]

This is not true.

None of the three statutes cited in the Search Warrant as possible crimes required the documents to actually be classified. The ones under the Espionage Act merely require them to be national defense information (which does not mean classified).

Then there are laws against theft of government property. Failure to return national defense information when contacted by and to a government official who has responsibility to receive such information. Then of course there are obstruction of justice charges not relating to classified documents based on the FPOTUS stonewalling the NARA for 16 months as they tried to get Presidential Records returned, failure to comply with a Grand Jury subpoena for the return of classified documents and then lying in the certification that all had been returned. All of which resulted in the August search warrant.

There are crimes pending which have nothing to do with documents being "classified", the fact that they are a priori classified until such time as the FPOTUS makes the claim they declassified in court and then presents evidence to show they were declassified is just an enhancement of the possible charges.

The final hope would be that the 11th Circuits decision would be appealed to the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS will save the FPOTUS's requested Special Master process. However the SCOTUS just turned away a similar appeal involving the same FPOTUS and the same case - relating specifically to classified documents - leaving the 11th Circuits ruling in place. The likely hood is the SCOTUS will not be intervening.

WW

It is true. All of the “POSSIBLE” cited “crimes” alleged in the search warrant are silly ass stretches. One might hazard the guess that “no reasonable prosecutor” would seek to bring any of those alleged possible crimes to trial. (I just know that’s a test these days.)

 

[WorldWatcher]

It is true. All of the “POSSIBLE” cited “crimes” alleged in the search warrant are silly ass stretches. One might hazard the guess that “no reasonable prosecutor” would seek to bring any of those alleged possible crimes to trial. (I just know that’s a test these days.)

You said: "Of the docs weren’t actually classified, there is no viable crime at all." (Assuming you meant "If".)

You are incorrect, there are still viable crimes that can be brought to indictment. NOTE: The FPOTUS has not made any claim in any of the court proceedings that the classified documents were declassified prior to noon on January 20, 2021. Until such time as he makes such a claim the documents remain classified. If he does make the claim (which I hope he does) then it opens himself up to presenting positive evidence such action was actually taken. All of that though is not needed for the obstruction possibility.

WW

 

[bodecea]

"We got him this time!"

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Maybe the Kanye & Fuentes thing will keep your panties wet for another 2 years

Tick Tock

 

[MagicMike]

Allegedly classified. You libtards persist n ignoring that fact.

Nonsense. Of the docs weren’t actually classified, there is no viable crime at all.


Doubtful. There may be none. But given the partisan and inappropriate politicization of the legal process, it can’t be ruled out.


And assholes like you root for that, too. You wouldn’t like a fair trial

Remember the Benghazi hearings?

 

[BackAgain]

Remember the Benghazi hearings?

What a terrific pointless!

 

[MagicMike]

What a terrific pointless!

Yes they were.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes they were.

All your posts are pointless.

 

[MagicMike]

All your posts are pointless.

Your opinion is duly noted.

 

[BackAgain]

Your opinion is duly noted.

Your pointlesses are dully noted.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Your opinion is duly noted.

Get your own schtick. That one's mine.

Damn leftist vermin are so unoriginal!


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[MagicMike]

Your pointlesses are dully noted.

Is your babysitter napping or something?

 

[Delldude]

a three-judge panel for the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals has vacated Judge Aileen Cannon's baffling prior order blocking the federal government from using stolen government documents seized at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate while instead ordering a new "special master" to evaluate Trump's alleged ownership claims to those documents.

Cannon's order was widely derided by legal experts and quickly proved a fiasco in practice, but it still complicated the federal investigation into the thousands of pages of government documents, some highly classified, that Trump had illegally stored in unsecured Mar-a-Lago locations after he lost the presidency. The 11th Circuit ruling eviscerates Cannon's order, stating plainly that "we cannot write a rule that allows any subject of a search warrant to block government investigations after the execution of the warrant. Nor can we write a rule that allows only former presidents to do so."

The order vacates Cannon's appointment of a special master, remanding the case to the lower court with orders to dismiss Trump's case in its entirety.

11th Circuit rules no 'special master' needed in Trump stolen documents case, orders case dismissed

In a Thursday-issued ruling, a three-judge panel for the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals has vacated Judge Aileen Cannon's baffling prior order blocking the federal government from using stolen government documents seized at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago...

www.dailykos.com

A copy of the order:

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

We'll let you know when you have permission to decide anything donny

Wonder where this could go?

 

[Delldude]

Remember the Benghazi hearings?

The ones that cost 7 million dollars?

Remember the J6 hearings?

WAPO:

The committee has already spent $2.5 million and is on pace to spend $9.3 million

 

[BackAgain]

Is your babysitter napping or something?

What a wit. 🙄

If you had another half a wit you could be a half wit.

 

[Delldude]

What a wit. 🙄

If you had another half a wit you could be a half wit.

Related to Nit?

 

[San Souci]

I love it when they call me MAGA, as if it were some searingly witty insult.

They're funniest when they think they are hurting your feelings. If calling you MAGA is what does that for them, so be it!


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For all the worthless ,lowbrow Libbies here , (Not you) it means Make America Great Again". All Libbies are Anti-American.

 

[MagicMike]

For all the worthless ,lowbrow Libbies here , (Not you) it means Make America Great Again". All Libbies are Anti-American.

Wonderful!
So you must also be a huge ANTIFA (Anti-fascist) supporter as well right?

You know....since that is what ANTIFA really means.