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[Aquarian]

Originally posted by Big D
I wonder what the creations or complishments of blacks were before comming in contact with whites?
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/12/15/53812

maybe mathematics itself?

In Babylonia mathematics developed from 2000 BC. Earlier a place value notation number system had evolved over a lengthy period with a number base of 60. It allowed arbitrarily large numbers and fractions to be represented and so proved to be the foundation of more high powered mathematical development.

Number problems such as that of the Pythagorean triples (a,b,c) with a2+b2 = c2 were studied from at least 1700 BC. Systems of linear equations were studied in the context of solving number problems. Quadratic equations were also studied and these examples led to a type of numerical algebra.

Geometric problems relating to similar figures, area and volume were also studied and values obtained for p.

The Babylonian basis of mathematics was inherited by the Greeks and independent development by the Greeks began from around 450 BC. Zeno of Elea's paradoxes led to the atomic theory of Democritus . A more precise formulation of concepts led to the realisation that the rational numbers did not suffice to measure all lengths. A geometric formulation of irrational numbers arose. Studies of area led to a form of integration.

from: http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/History_overview.html

 

[Big D]

Aquarian,

Do you know the racial makeup of the people of Babylonia?

http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/ethnology.html

 

[Bullypulpit]

...What are you really afraid of? The venom in your writings when you speak of minorities is astounding. From what well of fear does that hatred spring?

What insecurities lead you down this path of hatred? Face them and you will be free of them. But that requires you to face yourself. I pray you find peace, and that in doing so you will banish those fears that lead you down the path you now travel.

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[SinisterMotives]

Big D, I get the impression that you spend all day digging up links to support your belief that blacks are inferior. Do you really not have anything better to do?

 

[Big D]

Bully,
Maybe your right,
But it's kind of your fault, you keep avoiding telling me what the benifits are of diversity. You never did tell me how the massive immigration from Mexico is helping the U.S. to be a better place?

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by SinisterMotives
Big D, I get the impression that you spend all day digging up links to support your belief that blacks are inferior. Do you really not have anything better to do?

Thats funny Sinister,
Because I get the impression that you don't spend any time looking up anything to support whatever belives you have at the moment.

 

[Aquarian]

they were a mix of races after a point in time, the black and yellow races being the first there... but I am not an anthropologist.

http://www.publicbookshelf.com/publ...he_Worlds_Famous_Events_Vol_1/ancientb_c.html

 

[SinisterMotives]

Originally posted by Big D
Thats funny Sinister,
Because I get the impression that you don't spend any time looking up anything to support whatever belives you have at the moment.

Maybe that's because I learn more about people from interacting with them than from poring over statistics about them.

 

[Zhukov]

This thread is... about pointing out the (diversity) or differences of different races.

My intent was not to imply that black people had invented those intellectual disciplines, but to point out instead that they are capable of understanding them, performing the duties associated with them, and advancing them indistinguishably from white people. That is to say, in this respect there is no difference.

I wonder what the creations or complishments of blacks were before comming in contact with whites?

I wonder what accomplishments they may have acheived had they never come into contact with whites. This is something we will never know.

Mya and Halle Berrys mothers are both white.

I guess that makes them half black; but still all woman.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by Zhukov
My intent was not to imply that black people had invented those intellectual disciplines, but to point out instead that they are capable of understanding them, performing the duties associated with them, and advancing them indistinguishably from white people. That is to say, in this respect there is no difference.
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Zhukov,
You make blacks sound as if they are no better then teaching a dog a new trick, I give them much more credit then that. What do you mean by "advancing them indistinguishably from white people?

Clearly the best achivements came for blacks after comming in contact with whites.

 

[wonderwench]

Originally posted by Big D

Zhukov,
You make blacks sound as if they are no better then teaching a dog a new trick, I give them much more credit then that. What do you mean by "advancing them indistinguishably from white people?

Clearly the best achivements came for blacks after comming in contact with whites.

Big D,

Just when I think you have reached the zenith of your offensiveness, you outdo yourself. We will never be able to prove how the people of any geographic area would have developed if left on their own. Your focus on groupings of DNA instead of upon individual character and individual achievement make you look like a bigot. If you really do love America, how about rereading The Constitution and The Bill of Rights - and then re-evaluating your opinions. Your constant race bashing is as Unamerican as can be.

 

[Zhukov]

You make blacks sound as if they are no better then teaching a dog a new trick

Actually, it seemed to me that that was your premise. Your statement bears absolutely no resemblance to mine, furthermore I resent your disgusting characterization and your despicable use of metaphor. If it is an honest reaction to my previous post, if you truly believe that that was what I was implying, not only are you skills of deduction severly lacking but so is your reading comprehension.

What do you mean by "advancing them indistinguishably from white people?

When a scientist performs an experiment that increases knowledge, he has advanced his scientific discipline. What part of that isn't clear?

I wonder what you thought I meant...

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by Big D
Bully,
Maybe your right,
But it's kind of your fault, you keep avoiding telling me what the benifits are of diversity. You never did tell me how the massive immigration from Mexico is helping the U.S. to be a better place?

Now you blame me for your ignorance.

You seem unable to look beyond the immediate to the long term. Your question, with different nation of origin, was asked with each successive wave of immigration to the U.S. "What good are the Irish?...Italians?...Poles?...Chinese?" History has shown their worth when the bigots and racists of their age questioned their existence on American soil.

Deal with it.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
Now you blame me for your ignorance.

You seem unable to look beyond the immediate to the long term. Your question, with different nation of origin, was asked with each successive wave of immigration to the U.S. "What good are the Irish?...Italians?...Poles?...Chinese?" History has shown their worth when the bigots and racists of their age questioned their existence on American soil.

Deal with it.

Here's the thing about immigration. It's fine in a laissez faire political setting with few to none social services. If our goal is to have a great socialist society, with cradle to grave security for every incompetent, then immigration will break the bank. If our goal is to have a dynamic and alive free market system, where individuals must see after their own needs, then immigration will provide the human fuel and intellectual diversity that will propel the U.S. to an ever brighter future, though in the short term some old time Americans, who've grown lazy and spoiled from past success and security, will react negatively as they face competition from more motivated and less economically demanding individuals.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by Zhukov
[B

When a scientist performs an experiment that increases knowledge, he has advanced his scientific discipline. What part of that isn't clear?

I wonder what you thought I meant... [/B]

No that what I thought you meant, maybe you could give a example of this.

Bully,

The long term is, America will look and be just like Mexico or any other third world country. A drive threw any hispanic neigborhood is living proof of this.
You are unable to give one benifit that America gets from this massive immigration.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

iginally posted by Big D [/i]
No that what I thought you meant, maybe you could give a example of this.

Bully,

The long term is, America will look and be just like Mexico or any other third world country. A drive threw any hispanic neigborhood is living proof of this.
You are unable to give one benifit that America gets from this massive immigration. [/QUOTE]


Big d, a surplus of humans in the country drives wages low, so labor costs are less of a limiting reagent in the ongoing globalization reaction. It will only be a detriment to America if our policies are such that parasitism is allowed.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
iginally posted by Big D [/i]
No that what I thought you meant, maybe you could give a example of this.

Bully,

The long term is, America will look and be just like Mexico or any other third world country. A drive threw any hispanic neigborhood is living proof of this.
You are unable to give one benifit that America gets from this massive immigration.

Big d, a surplus of humans in the country drives wages low, so labor costs are less of a limiting reagent in the ongoing globalization reaction. It will only be a detriment to America if our policies are such that parasitism is allowed. [/QUOTE]

Well gosh guys, if a provision had been added to the WTO charter that provided for strong labor rights and environmental protection around the world, it wouldn't be an issue...Would it? But, as Poppy Bush and Goatboy Clinton decided that business comes ahead of fair labor standards and a clean envirnoment, we face declining wages at home and abroad and everwidening environmental disruption as companies seek the lowest common denominator.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit

Well gosh guys, if a provision had been added to the WTO charter that provided for strong labor rights and environmental protection around the world, it wouldn't be an issue...Would it? But, as Poppy Bush and Goatboy Clinton decided that business comes ahead of fair labor standards and a clean envirnoment, we face declining wages at home and abroad and everwidening environmental disruption as companies seek the lowest common denominator. [/B]

A global minimum wage, if that's what you mean, or mandatory benefits or fair labor or whatever, whatever it is that you are proposing be imposed globally that would make it no cost savings to hire overseas, would only cause the world economy to stagnate. International corporations wouldn't bother investing in these countries, thus those economies would continue in their cycles of poverty. Those third world nations would remain third world forever, and the cost of our goods here would skyrocket, and our economy would falter. An economy is like an organism, it's either growing or it's dying. The political types can redistribute some of it, but they mustn't kill the golden goose. Economic Globalization is what will bring the third world to a higher standard of living, not global socialism and protectionism.

 

[Big D]

Does being Fat = being lazy?

http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml

 

[Bullypulpit]

Does being racist = being stupid?