RetiredGySgt
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Zimmerman maintains he was assaulted and feared for his life. Any past aggression by the dead person is in fact admissible as evidence.
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I don't think Zimmerman has a chance in hell of winning.
He is most likely going to be aquitted, based on the information released so far. You also notice the media has dropped the case almost entirely, another indidcator that a conviction just isnt happening.
I didn't state anything that is NOT A FACT. Will you calm your crazy RW A$$ down?"Choirboy" or not the murder victim Trayvon Martin was wrecklessly gunned down in the prime of his youth for walking while black.
So you were there? In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. I know that is a hard concept for you to understand. But I am happy we have this provision.
The boy was gunned down to death while armed with a bottle of iced tea and a pack of Skittles.
Period. End-of-story.
I'm sure Zimmerman was terrified he'd be shot with the Skittles.
I don't think Zimmerman has a chance in hell of winning.
He is most likely going to be aquitted, based on the information released so far. You also notice the media has dropped the case almost entirely, another indidcator that a conviction just isnt happening.
The media moved on, because that's what they do. Its not new and hot anymore so they don't really care.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
"Choirboy" or not the murder victim Trayvon Martin was wrecklessly gunned down in the prime of his youth for walking while black.[/QUOTE]
Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.
Federal Statistics of black on white violence, with links and mathematical extrapolation formulas. - Lafayette Political Buzz | Examiner.com
I didn't state anything that is NOT A FACT. Will you calm your crazy RW A$$ down?"Choirboy" or not the murder victim Trayvon Martin was wrecklessly gunned down in the prime of his youth for walking while black.
So you were there? In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. I know that is a hard concept for you to understand. But I am happy we have this provision.
The boy was gunned down to death while armed with a bottle of iced tea and a pack of Skittles.
Period. End-of-story.
I didn't state anything that is NOT A FACT. Will you calm your crazy RW A$$ down?"Choirboy" or not the murder victim Trayvon Martin was wrecklessly gunned down in the prime of his youth for walking while black.
So you were there? In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. I know that is a hard concept for you to understand. But I am happy we have this provision.
The boy was gunned down to death while armed with a bottle of iced tea and a pack of Skittles.
Period. End-of-story.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.He is most likely going to be aquitted, based on the information released so far. You also notice the media has dropped the case almost entirely, another indidcator that a conviction just isnt happening.
The media moved on, because that's what they do. Its not new and hot anymore so they don't really care.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.The media moved on, because that's what they do. Its not new and hot anymore so they don't really care.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.The media moved on, because that's what they do. Its not new and hot anymore so they don't really care.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
Sympathy is not within the remit of a jury. They are supposed to judge on facts presented, weigh the evidence and draw a conclusion.... I think anyone who has formed an opinion of guilt or innocence is a fucking idiot who should never, ever sit on a jury.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.The media moved on, because that's what they do. Its not new and hot anymore so they don't really care.
I just don't see a jury acquitting him, although I admit I havent been following the case all that closely.
Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.Facts.
Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle.
Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pounding his head into the ground.
A witness saw martin on top, Zimmerman on the bottom calling for help.
Martin has a history of violent behavior, he assaulted a bus driver and told everyone about it. He had screw driver at school and defaced school property. Last I checked a screw driver is a weapon and not allowed on school grounds.
The school found jewelry and pot in his back pack.
Also a fact IF Martin had simply gone home he would have been inside his house when the shooting occurred, further evidence he chose to go after Zimmerman.
Fact. The COPS investigated and the District Attorney found no grounds to charge him with anything.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
They picked a jury already? When did this happen?
I have no plan to debate the case with you.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
They picked a jury already? When did this happen?
Um now? I thought they had already started, I could be wrong though. However that doesn't change the fact that I think he's already been found guilty in the court of public opinion. Getting a jury that consists of people who don't know about the case is impossible, IMO.
I have no plan to debate the case with you.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
They picked a jury already? When did this happen?
Um now? I thought they had already started, I could be wrong though. However that doesn't change the fact that I think he's already been found guilty in the court of public opinion. Getting a jury that consists of people who don't know about the case is impossible, IMO.
...a campaign to fully smear the deceased murder victim Trayvon Martin
I have no plan to debate the case with you.
The bottom line is Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid who had just celebrated his birthday less then 3 weeks before. Even if I believed everything Zimmerman claims, I would still say he will be convicted.
I think the juries sympathies are already on the side of the kid, and the only way to turn them would be if Zimmerman were an upstanding citizen, which he's not.
Sympathy is not within the remit of a jury. They are supposed to judge on facts presented, weigh the evidence and draw a conclusion.... I think anyone who has formed an opinion of guilt or innocence is a fucking idiot who should never, ever sit on a jury.
I agree with you. But that doesn't change the fact that juries are human, and can be swayed by sympathy.
They picked a jury already? When did this happen?
Um now? I thought they had already started, I could be wrong though. However that doesn't change the fact that I think he's already been found guilty in the court of public opinion. Getting a jury that consists of people who don't know about the case is impossible, IMO.
Something is either impossible, or not... it is not an opinion. Getting a jury of people who don't know about the case is difficult, not impossible. Words are important.