Zero Tolerance In Today's Schools

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    I'm all for keeping schools safe. However, I think each instance should be taken on a case-by-case situation. Stories like the honor student leaving his Civil War (inoperable) musket in his truck from a school-sponsored event over the weekend - which results in suspension for the rest of the year because of the "no-weapon" zero tolerance policy fill the news weekly.

    Let me add one.

    Friend of ours has an 11 year old son. He and his friend were playing with each other on the playground. They have some game where they see how close they can come to "flick" (thumb on top of the middle finger, then 'flick' the middle finger to almost hit their arm/hand, etc) each other.

    It was our friend's kid's turn. Just as he was "flicking" someone else ran by the other kid and pushed him, accidentally, into the first kid; resulting in his arm being "flicked."

    Of course, the teacher turned around to see the actual "flick."

    All three kids, the pusher, the flicker and the flickee gave the principal statements that it was all accidental, etc.

    The principal even said he knew it was an accident but unfortunately his hands were tied by the schools' zero tolerance policy.

    Our friend's kid was suspended for 3 days for violation of the school's anti-violence policy.

    The other two kids received no suspension.

    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    I hate...I HATE people sometimes...How the HELL do 'these policies' come about? I mean...really? The teacher who turned the kid in is a worthless human. :( very VERY poor judgement on his/her part.
     
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    Why don't we have zero tolerance for stupidity? Now that could be useful. :cuckoo:
     
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    By pointing out to unintelligent people that they are, in fact, unintelligent, their self esteem would get hurt.
     
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    Typical liberal mumbo jumbo!
     
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    I thought it was meant as a tongue in cheek remark. :confused:
     
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    There are tons of these idiotic examples. A pair of kindergarteners 'get married'. The boy kisses the girl, he is suspended for harrassment, even though the little girl explained that they are 'in love.' Taking a midol-zero tolerance for drugs leads to expulsion for the year...on and on. Talk about reasons not to 'respect authority', when there is no judgement required. :blowup:
     
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    here is one for you...

    my son (6 at the time) was present when a boy pushed a girl into the boys bathroom....she belived my son was responsible....she went to her older brother 8 to put a hit out on my son.....he in turn went to an older friend and they put a hit out on my son.....so the 5th grader kicked my son in the twig and berries.....

    the school has a zero tollerance policy so they did...........................

    nothing, zip, zero nada ...... no appologizes from any one ........ and get this the girls mom said ... it was my son's fault for being there ......
     
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    I guess I'll point out that "zero tolerance" policies actually were the brainchild of politicians in most states as an answer to the outcry over school violence (which has been vastly overreported and blown out of proportion by media outlets seeking to increase ratings and newspaper sales). Both parties and sides of the spectrum supported this idea. These policies are absolute nonsense. Let the school faculty and adminstrators do their jobs and treat each case individually. One-size-fits-all punishment systems don't work because they leave no room for common sense.

    acludem
     
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