“ZERO PROOF” — THE “RUSSIAN INVASION” OF UKRAINE

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    The latest incursion, which Ukraine’s military said included five armored personnel carriers, was at least the third movement of troops and weapons from Russia across the southeast part of the border this week, further blunting the momentum Ukrainian forces have made in weakening the insurgents in their redoubts of Donetsk and Luhansk farther north. Evidence of a possible turn was seen in the panicky retreat of Ukrainian soldiers on Tuesday from a force they said had come over the Russian border.
    “Shown to one NYT reporter” who likely can not differentiate a Grad system from a pipe organ is hardly any proof. Why doesn’t the U.S. publish the picture?
    “I tell you they are Russians, but this is what proof I have,” said Sgt. Aleksei Panko, holding up his thumb and index finger to form a zero.
    Zero proof – indeed. Judging from pictures of equipment and ammunition the insurgents use nearly all of it seems to be the same Soviet era stuff the Ukrainian army is using. The big Russian invasion the Ukrainian government claims is very unlikely to have happened.
    Translation error or an intentional Poroshenko 'screw up'
    This is a quite amazing “information operation” without doubt of U.S. origin.
    Consider: The Ukrainian President talks about Russian affiliated insurgents in east-Ukraine and Reuters and others distribute this as “invasion”. After all major news-entities repeated the “invasion” claim and the public damage is done they simply take it back...
    So there was an “invasion”, distributed by major news agencies, which then turns out to have been a translation error or an intentional Poroshenko ‘screw up’.
    Notice that one author of the NYT piece above is Michael Gordon, who, together with Judith Miller, wrote sensational reports about proof of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The current head of NATO who is promoting war against Russia, Fogh-of-war Rassmussen, said 11 years ago: “Iraq has WMDs. It is not something we think, it is something we know”.
    These folks and the western news agencies that promoted the WMD in Iraq claims are now claiming a Russian “invasion” in Ukraine only to retract it when the damage is done. Warmongers. All of them
     
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    All a myth to be certain, like russian involvement in syria, afghanistan, cuba and vietnam....
     
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    It really doesn't matter either way if Russia is involved or not. I think they are, especially since the rightfully elected President of Ukraine fled to Russia, he likely asked for help from them.
    This is a matter for Ukrainians and the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine to figure out. This is yet another case of idiotic political borders drawn up that didn't match the ethnic groups living inside those lines. Let the people of east Ukraine decide what they want. But of course the globalists, led by Soros, cannot allow that. All of Ukraine, must submit to the EU.

    So, forget the globalists, forget Soros and his warmongering minions, we should stay the hell out of it.
     
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    The right wants to suck up to Master Putin and abandon Ukraine obviously. Americans are tired of Russian expansion and want the mad muscled midget CONTAINED.
     

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