You Want to Renounce Your US Citizenship? It Ain't Cheap Any More.

[longknife]

As the article points out, thousands are leaving the country and giving up their citizenship. It used to cost $450. But, now the State Department is going to charge you $2,350!


Hell! Just go and forget all about it.


Read the article @ Prison Planet.com U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422

 

[boedicca]

Gotta keep the serfs within the borders, bub.

 

[Esmeralda]

Well, what I have to say about this is 'hmmmmm....'

 

[Pogo]

As the article points out, thousands are leaving the country and giving up their citizenship. It used to cost $450. But, now the State Department is going to charge you $2,350!


Hell! Just go and forget all about it.


Read the article @ Prison Planet.com U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422

"Prison Planet" as source...

It's bullshit. What's referred to by "PP" is the formal declaration -- which is just one of several ways to renounce citizenship.

Here is the official State Department protocol. See if you can spot the word "or" (extra credit for spotting the word "any"):

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if
(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or
(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4) (A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or
(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction. (from here, linked directly from the US State Department)

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Morons never even feel it when they're getting played like a three dollar banjo.

 

[longknife]

Is there anywhere in your post the fiduciary requirement the State Department has for those who formally renounce their citizenship?

 

[Vikrant]

It is still cheaper than getting divorce.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

As the article points out, thousands are leaving the country and giving up their citizenship. It used to cost $450. But, now the State Department is going to charge you $2,350!


Hell! Just go and forget all about it.


Read the article @ Prison Planet.com U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422

"Prison Planet" as source...

It's bullshit. What's referred to by "PP" is the formal declaration -- which is just one of several ways to renounce citizenship.

Here is the official State Department protocol. See if you can spot the word "or" (extra credit for spotting the word "any"):

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if
(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or
(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4) (A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or
(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction. (from here, linked directly from the US State Department)

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Morons never even feel it when they're getting played like a three dollar banjo.

My area of expertise is immigration and nationality law, including the pertinent statutory, constitutional, case and international law.

Pogo and those who agreed with him are correct, but they miss the point.

Formally renouncing one's citizenship within the jurisdiction of the United States is one thing. Effectively renouncing one's citizenship abroad and, consequently, forfeiting one's citizenship by any one of the actions described in the above is quite another. In the case of the latter, one is beyond the reach of the United States' jurisdiction and its fiduciary requirements for sure.

However, any attempt to reenter the United States after renouncing one's citizenship by any one of these means; well, sorry, that ain't happening, at least not with any reliable guarantee.

Goodbye. Have a nice life . . . except for those instances in which persons forfeited their citizenship by committing an act of treason and then attempt to come "home." In those instances, the U.S. government will gleefully embrace them in order to give them a good taste of due process and provide them the accommodations of federal prison for an extended stay.

Folks who formally renounce their citizenship within the jurisdiction of the United States and pay the "fine," as it were, do so that they may reenter the United States later without a hitch, to visit or to do business.

For most, it's a relatively small price to pay in light of the benefits. In other words, they're not suckers. They pay the penalty for a very good reason.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As the article points out, thousands are leaving the country and giving up their citizenship. It used to cost $450. But, now the State Department is going to charge you $2,350!


Hell! Just go and forget all about it.


Read the article @ Prison Planet.com U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422

Why Americans are giving up citizenship in record numbers

The IRS publishes the names of each American who gives up his or her citizenship. The list comes out every three months, and international tax lawyer Andrew Mitchel has tallied them up. In the first quarter of this year, 1,158 people expatriated — more than 10 times the number in the first quarter of 2008, when Mitchel began his count. Last year, a record 4,279 people renounced their citizenship.

How can it be after 7 1/2 years of Hope and Change that more people want to leave this fundamentally transformed America? You would think with the Socialist Utopia of central planning those people would want to stay and help contribute to the betterment of those who came here illegally? Or is it they are starting to see the writing on the wall, that soon Dogs and Cats could be the main menu in the near future?