Yizhak Shamir, former Nazi PM

[Freeman]

Yizhak Shamir was the former israeli PM and his group Lehi was heavily tied with nazis in 40s!, he had also contacts with Mussolini...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FzmvniIUmc[/ame]

 

[Marc39]

Yizhak Shamir was the former israeli PM and his group Lehi was heavily tied with nazis in 40s!, he had also contacts with Mussolini...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FzmvniIUmc

Another BOGUS video, psycho?

 

[georgephillip]

Why do you cringe from debate, "Edwin?"

 

[Marc39]

Why do you cringe from debate, "Edwin?"

Why do you and the other psycho have no reputational points?
I answered my own question

 

[Freeman]

Yizhak Shamir was the former israeli PM and his group Lehi was heavily tied with nazis in 40s!, he had also contacts with Mussolini...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FzmvniIUmc

Another BOGUS video, psycho?

Mr Joke, you prove again that you have a QI of a pig

It's from History channel.

 

[Marc39]

Yizhak Shamir was the former israeli PM and his group Lehi was heavily tied with nazis in 40s!, he had also contacts with Mussolini...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FzmvniIUmc

Another BOGUS video, psycho?

Mr Joke, you prove again that you have a QI of a pig

It's from History channel.

BOGUS video. You're wasting bandwidth

 

[Marc39]

Bernard Lewis...

Then came the Third Reich, connections to the Arab world and, later, to other Muslim countries. Now that the German archives are open, we know that within weeks of Hitler’s coming to power in 1933, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem got in touch with the German consul general in Jerusalem, Doctor Heinrich Wolff, and offered his services. It is interesting that the common image of the Germans pursuing the Arabs is the reverse of what happened. The Arabs were pursuing the Germans.

The Germans turned their attention more seriously to the Arabs, responding at last to their approaches, and from then on the relationship developed very swiftly.

In 1940 the French surrender gave the Nazis new opportunities for action in the Arab world. In Vichy-controlled Syria they were able for a while to establish an intelligence and propaganda base in the heart of the Arab East. From Syria they extended their activities to Iraq, where they helped to establish a pro-Nazi regime headed by Rashid Ali al-Gailani. This was overthrown by the British, and Rashid Ali went to join his friend the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in Berlin, where he remained as Hitler’s guest until the end of the war. In the last days of Rashid Ali’s regime, on the first and second of June 1941, soldiers and civilians launched murderous attacks on the ancient Jewish community in Baghdad. This was followed by a series of such attacks in other Arab cities, both in the Middle East and in North Africa.

In answer to a question from Rashid Ali as to whether anti-Semitism was also directed against Arabs, because they were part of the Semitic family, Professor Walter Gross, director of the Race Policy Office of the Nazi Party, explained with great emphasis, in a letter dated October 17, 1942, that this was not the case and that anti-Semitism was concerned wholly and exclusively with Jews. On the contrary, he observed, the Nazis had always shown sympathy and support for the Arab cause against the Jews. In the course of his letter, he even remarked that the expression “anti-Semitism, which has been used for decades in Europe by the anti-Jewish movement, was incorrect since this movement was directed exclusively against Jewry, and not against other peoples who speak a Semitic language.

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Semites-Anti-Semites-Inquiry-Conflict-Prejudice/dp/0393318397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288102220&sr=8-1[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLRTe-lZMB0[/ame]

 

[kwc57]

Tell me why I'm supposed to care.

 

[Freeman]

the document of collaboration btwn nazi and Ster Lehi groups

 

[Marc39]

the document of collaboration btwn nazi and Ster Lehi groups

BOGUS.

Not bogus...

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

Then came the Third Reich, connections to the Arab world and, later, to other Muslim countries. Now that the German archives are open, we know that within weeks of Hitler’s coming to power in 1933, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem got in touch with the German consul general in Jerusalem, Doctor Heinrich Wolff, and offered his services. It is interesting that the common image of the Germans pursuing the Arabs is the reverse of what happened. The Arabs were pursuing the Germans.

The Germans turned their attention more seriously to the Arabs, responding at last to their approaches, and from then on the relationship developed very swiftly.

In 1940 the French surrender gave the Nazis new opportunities for action in the Arab world. In Vichy-controlled Syria they were able for a while to establish an intelligence and propaganda base in the heart of the Arab East. From Syria they extended their activities to Iraq, where they helped to establish a pro-Nazi regime headed by Rashid Ali al-Gailani. This was overthrown by the British, and Rashid Ali went to join his friend the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in Berlin, where he remained as Hitler’s guest until the end of the war. In the last days of Rashid Ali’s regime, on the first and second of June 1941, soldiers and civilians launched murderous attacks on the ancient Jewish community in Baghdad. This was followed by a series of such attacks in other Arab cities, both in the Middle East and in North Africa.

In answer to a question from Rashid Ali as to whether anti-Semitism was also directed against Arabs, because they were part of the Semitic family, Professor Walter Gross, director of the Race Policy Office of the Nazi Party, explained with great emphasis, in a letter dated October 17, 1942, that this was not the case and that anti-Semitism was concerned wholly and exclusively with Jews. On the contrary, he observed, the Nazis had always shown sympathy and support for the Arab cause against the Jews. In the course of his letter, he even remarked that the expression “anti-Semitism, which has been used for decades in Europe by the anti-Jewish movement, was incorrect since this movement was directed exclusively against Jewry, and not against other peoples who speak a Semitic language

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Semites-Anti-Semites-Inquiry-Conflict-Prejudice/dp/0393318397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288102220&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: Semites and Anti-Semites: An Inquiry into Conflict and Prejudice (9780393318395): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLRTe-lZMB0[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

Subject for debate:

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler. By 1940-41, the 'Stern Gang,' among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the 'Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.'"

Was Yitzhak a "pragmatist?"
Or race traitor?

51 Docs

 

[Marc39]

Subject for debate:

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler. By 1940-41, the 'Stern Gang,' among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the 'Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.'"

Was Yitzhak a "pragmatist?"
Or race traitor?

51 Docs

BOGUS website. Still no reputational points?

Try prayer

 

[georgephillip]

"Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

"The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East."

Avraham and his followers...
Pragmatists?
Traitors?

Try argumentation.

Prayer is for slaves.

51 Docs

 

[Marc39]

"Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

"The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East."

Avraham and his followers...
Pragmatists?
Traitors?

Try argumentation.

Prayer is for slaves.

51 Docs

Bogus website.

 

[hipeter924]

Subject for debate:

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler. By 1940-41, the 'Stern Gang,' among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the 'Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.'"

Was Yitzhak a "pragmatist?"
Or race traitor?

51 Docs

BOGUS website. Still no reputational points?

Try prayer

He should go back to high school instead:

 

[georgephillip]

"Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

"The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East."

Avraham and his followers...
Pragmatists?
Traitors?

Try argumentation.

Prayer is for slaves.

51 Docs

Bogus website.

CounterPunch

"History

The newsletter was established in 1994 by the Washington, D.C.-based investigative reporter Ken Silverstein.[4] He was soon joined by the journalists Cockburn and St. Clair.[5] In 1996 Silverstein left the publication and Cockburn and St. Clair have since been co-editors.[6]
[edit] Contributors

Notable contributors to CounterPunch have included Robert Fisk,[7] Edward Said,[8] Tim Wise,[9] Ralph Nader,[10] M. Shahid Alam,[11] Tariq Ali,[12] Ward Churchill,[13] Lila Rajiva,[14] Peter Linebaugh,[15] Tanya Reinhart,[16] Noam Chomsky,[17] Frank "Chuck" Spinney,[18] and Alexander Cockburn's two brothers: Andrew[19] and Patrick,[20] both of whom write on the Middle East, Iraq in particular.[21][22]

Some paleoconservative writers, such as Paul Craig Roberts[23] and William Lind,[24] and libertarian writers such as Sheldon Richman[25] and Anthony Gregory[26] also contribute to CounterPunch.

"The site regularly publishes articles from those with left-wing views, such as Lenni Brenner,[27] Fidel Castro,[28] and the late Stew Albert,[29] as well as newer contributors, such as Diane Christian,[30] Joshua Frank,[31] Norman Finkelstein,[32] Ron Jacobs,[33] Pam Martens,[34] Gary Leupp,[35] Cynthia McKinney,[36] Kelly Overton,[37] David Price,[38] and Sherry Wolf."

Is it the lack of corporate underwriting and banner headlines that makes CounterPunch "bogus" in your opinion?

Why are you reluctant to debate the content found in CounterPunch?

Could it be you're afraid to argue whether Avraham Stern actually proposed "the establishment of the historic Jewish State on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by treaty with the German Reich..."? (51 Docs)

Are you a propagandist interested only in the number of bogus posts you make daily?

 

[Marc39]

Are you a propagandist interested only in the number of bogus posts you make daily?

Georgie, I've beaten the shit out of you so many times, the only reason you're still here is a total lack of self-respect and low self-esteem.

 

[hipeter924]

"Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

"The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East."

Avraham and his followers...
Pragmatists?
Traitors?

Try argumentation.

Prayer is for slaves.

51 Docs

Bogus website.

CounterPunch

"History

The newsletter was established in 1994 by the Washington, D.C.-based investigative reporter Ken Silverstein.[4] He was soon joined by the journalists Cockburn and St. Clair.[5] In 1996 Silverstein left the publication and Cockburn and St. Clair have since been co-editors.[6]
[edit] Contributors

Notable contributors to CounterPunch have included Robert Fisk,[7] Edward Said,[8] Tim Wise,[9] Ralph Nader,[10] M. Shahid Alam,[11] Tariq Ali,[12] Ward Churchill,[13] Lila Rajiva,[14] Peter Linebaugh,[15] Tanya Reinhart,[16] Noam Chomsky,[17] Frank "Chuck" Spinney,[18] and Alexander Cockburn's two brothers: Andrew[19] and Patrick,[20] both of whom write on the Middle East, Iraq in particular.[21][22]

Some paleoconservative writers, such as Paul Craig Roberts[23] and William Lind,[24] and libertarian writers such as Sheldon Richman[25] and Anthony Gregory[26] also contribute to CounterPunch.

"The site regularly publishes articles from those with left-wing views, such as Lenni Brenner,[27] Fidel Castro,[28] and the late Stew Albert,[29] as well as newer contributors, such as Diane Christian,[30] Joshua Frank,[31] Norman Finkelstein,[32] Ron Jacobs,[33] Pam Martens,[34] Gary Leupp,[35] Cynthia McKinney,[36] Kelly Overton,[37] David Price,[38] and Sherry Wolf."

Is it the lack of corporate underwriting and banner headlines that makes CounterPunch "bogus" in your opinion?

Why are you reluctant to debate the content found in CounterPunch?

Could it be you're afraid to argue whether Avraham Stern actually proposed "the establishment of the historic Jewish State on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by treaty with the German Reich..."? (51 Docs)

Are you a propagandist interested only in the number of bogus posts you make daily?

 

[georgephillip]

Was Yitzhak as pragmatic as Eric Cantor?

 

[Freeman]

yizhak Shamir arrested in Dec 1941 for collaboration with nazis;...he became prime minister!!!!!!!!!!!

jewish troups in Berlin 1936