Yes, You're A Communist

[Uncensored2008]

Oh, boy.....

Link?

Homeschool, Afterschool, Summer Study - Time4Learning

 

[koshergrl]

"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The LAW

 

[Uncensored2008]

No the first post was addressed to the douche bag. I am a beacon of truth in a forum of RW darkness and regression!

You are beacon of mental retardation, the epitome of ignorance, stupidity personified.

 

[Uncensored2008]

But G.W. and T.J. were liberals!

Libertarians.

George Washington was not Libertarian in thought. He was a federalist.

 

[there4eyeM]

Oh, boy.....

Link?

Homeschool, Afterschool, Summer Study - Time4Learning

Thanks to Webster's dictionary:
Noun 1. enlightenment - education that results in understanding and the spread of knowledge
Antonyms:
unenlightenment - a lack of understanding
2. enlightenment - (Hinduism and Buddhism) the beatitude that transcends the cycle ofreincarnation; characterized by the extinction of desire and suffering and individualconsciousness
Synonyms: Nirvana
3. Enlightenment - a movement in the 18th century that advocated the use of reason inthe reappraisal of accepted ideas and social institutions
Synonyms: Age of Reason
Related Words
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Perhaps you learned in third grade that capitalism and Enlightenment were synonymous.
Try to find anyone else with an education above that level who agrees with you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then ponder this:

At the current rate, it does seem like the middle class will continue to dissolve in America, while the wealthy continue to get richer. Incomes have stagnated, and America has become a service economy. This is partly because of outsourcing, but more importantly because of automation. Technological innovation has destroyed jobs faster than it has created them. While productivity has increased since the turn of the century, employment has stagnated. Our GDP has grown, but household incomes have remained the same.

A Capitalist Middle Class?

Er, no. When we functioned more purely as a capitalistic society, before welfare and unions and federally run schools and oppressive.land use policies, the.middle.class exploded, flourished, and expanded. It is only since the advent of commie social engineering programs and policies that it has diminished. It has nothing to do with capitalism, aside from the fact that it is now under attack by commies.

Not true, as what was seen in Britain around 1850, when liberal free trade philosophy was tried and the Corn Law was dropped which dropped tariffs on imports, making it a free trade nation, much like what has happened in the USA with free trade deals....Also Britain was losing manufacturing production to other nations, notably the US and Germany were out producing...Which is what is happening now, the US has other nations, China, which are outproducing and undercharging to take over markets....The American businessman takes the profits, in effect what has happened has undercut the middles class and stagnated white birth rates..same thing that happened in Britain...

All as a result of a massive increase in production/industrialization and removal of historic restrictions on and taxation of production.

No there was taxation just like in the USA on produced goods...

Yes but it was reduced.

JQPublic1 makes Conty, bripat, koshergrl, and the such relentlessly stupid look just so . . . relentlessly stupid.

Any butt who writes, "Social Security itself is cheating and stealing on a vast scale" simply loses any claim to expect respect in discussion.

No they don't. Lots of people.say that and are respected plenty. And you're an idiot, so your take on it counts for.nothing.

No, they are not "respected plenty," for they simply look relentlessly stupid excepting only the relentlessly stupid. Only the silly minded think SS is cheating.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh, boy.....

Link?

Homeschool, Afterschool, Summer Study - Time4Learning

Thanks to Webster's dictionary:
Noun 1. enlightenment - education that results in understanding and the spread of knowledge
Antonyms:
unenlightenment - a lack of understanding
2. enlightenment - (Hinduism and Buddhism) the beatitude that transcends the cycle ofreincarnation; characterized by the extinction of desire and suffering and individualconsciousness
Synonyms: Nirvana
3. Enlightenment - a movement in the 18th century that advocated the use of reason inthe reappraisal of accepted ideas and social institutions
Synonyms: Age of Reason
Related Words
accomplishments, account, acculturation, acquaintance, acquisitionofknowledge, acquisitions,allegorization, announcement, arclighting, attainments, awakening, blackandwhite, bluebook,briefing, bulletin, catechization, chiaroscuro, civility, civilization, clarification, coaching,communication, communique, contrast, cracking, cultivation, culture, data, datum, debunking,decipherment, decoding, decorativelighting, demonstration, demythologization, didactics, directlighting, direction, directory, disappointment, disenchantment, disillusion, disillusionment, dispatch,edification, editing, education, electriclighting, elucidation, emendation, enculturation, euhemerism,evidence, exegesis, exemplification, explanation, explication, exposition, expounding, facts,factualinformation, familiarization, festoonlighting, floodlighting, fluorescentlighting, gaslighting,gen, generalinformation, glowlighting, guidance, guidebook, handout, hardinformation, highlights,illumination, illustration, incandescentlighting, incidentalinformation, indirectlighting, info,information, instruction, intelligence, irradiation, knowledge, learning, liberaleducation, light, lightandshade, lighting, mention, message, notice, notification, overheadlighting, pedagogics,pedagogy, polish, presentation, privateteaching, programmedinstruction, promotionalmaterial,proof, publication, publicity, radiation, rationale, reason, reeducation, refinement, release, report,returntoreality, rudeawakening, schooling, self-instruction, self-teaching, sidelight, simplification,socialization, solution, sophistication, spoon-feeding, spotlighting, stagelighting, statement, storeofknowledge, striplighting, teaching, thedope, thegoods, theknow, thescoop, tonality,transmission, tuition, tutelage, tutorage, tutoring, tutorship, undeception, unlocking, unspelling,whitebook, whitepaper, word

Perhaps you learned in third grade that capitalism and Enlightenment were synonymous.
Try to find anyone else with an education above that level who agrees with you.

Does it hurt to be that stupid? It's good you found duhs, and Jake5000, they are your intellectual peers.

So my slow witted little friend, just what was the enlightenment? Did it have something to do with Buddha?

Well, not so much.

{The civil freedom that Locke defines, as something protected by the force of political laws, comes increasingly to be interpreted as the freedom to trade, to exchange without the interference of governmental regulation. Within the context of the Enlightenment, economic freedom is a salient interpretation of the individual freedom highly valued in the period. Adam Smith, a prominent member of the Scottish Enlightenment, describes in his An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (1776) some of the laws of civil society, as a sphere distinct from political society as such, and thus contributes significantly to the founding of political economy (later called merely “economics”). His is one of many voices in the Enlightenment advocating for free trade and for minimal government regulation of markets. The trading house floor, in which people of various nationalities, languages, cultures, religions come together and trade, each in pursuit of his own self-interest, but, through this pursuit, supplying the wants of their respective nations and increasing its wealth, represents for some Enlightenment thinkers the benign, peaceful, universal rational order that they wish to see replace the violent, confessional strife that characterized the then-recent past of Europe.}

Enlightenment (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

You truly are a drooling retard with scant to no education, but laughing at you does make for some compelling entertainment.

 

[there4eyeM]

So, you actually intend to stand by the position that 'enlightenment' means 'capitalism'?
Fine. You have your vocabulary, and the rest of the English speaking world has ours.
Nice of you, nonetheless, to associate your post with photos of your betters.

 

[Searcher44]

So you haven't considered how much worse off poor people would be today if welfare wasn't there to help them during the lean tmies that manifested under republican administrations? Your concession is accepted!

I think the choice of education is more relevant here. Yours apparently stems from an arcane outdated source, Mine is more objective and modern. You are obsessed with denigrating a president who was elected 4 times and b dong so you attack the Will of the People accordingly. You have to admit, some of those people who voted for Roosevelt were far smarter than you. why don't yo be reasonable and admit it.

Magical thinking. There is.of.course no way to verify that....we maintain that those programs you promote do nothing to alleviate hunger and in fact create the hungry welfare class....and creates dependence just to justify the constant resource leeching from the.middle class. In other words, communism.

You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism and that both conservative capitalism AND communism are anathemas to a middle class. There is no magic there, just call it empiricism.

I don't understand that because it isn't true. I'm funny that way.

Then ponder this:

At the current rate, it does seem like the middle class will continue to dissolve in America, while the wealthy continue to get richer. Incomes have stagnated, and America has become a service economy. This is partly because of outsourcing, but more importantly because of automation. Technological innovation has destroyed jobs faster than it has created them. While productivity has increased since the turn of the century, employment has stagnated. Our GDP has grown, but household incomes have remained the same.

A Capitalist Middle Class?

Er, no. When we functioned more purely as a capitalistic society, before welfare and unions and federally run schools and oppressive.land use policies, the.middle.class exploded, flourished, and expanded. It is only since the advent of commie social engineering programs and policies that it has diminished. It has nothing to do with capitalism, aside from the fact that it is now under attack by commies.

It's hard to evaluate this "blue sky" period in American history without specific dates. "Before" this or that is impossibly subjective. Could you give us specific dates, even decadel references would be helpful. The we can crack a few books and discover for ourselves this almost Utopian sounding period when "the.middle.class exploded, flourished, and expanded.'

 

[Uncensored2008]

So, you actually intend to stand by the position that 'enlightenment' means 'capitalism'?

Moron, the enlightenment was predicated on the rise of the free merchants, it was the dissolution of the Feudal Monarchies (that you leftists are working so hard to restore) where the state (through the crown) doled out success to the favored.

Yes, the enlightenment was predicated on economic freedom.

You are simply ignorant, an uneducated dolt who thinks your partisan hackery is equivalent to reality.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's hard to evaluate this "blue sky" period in American history without specific dates. "Before" this or that is impossibly subjective. Could you give us specific dates, even decadel references would be helpful. The we can crack a few books and discover for ourselves this almost Utopian sounding period when "the.middle.class exploded, flourished, and expanded.'

Look up "market revolution."

Any legitimate history text will explain it to you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Take a post WWII history class.

 

[JQPublic1]

So you haven't considered how much worse off poor people would be today if welfare wasn't there to help them during the lean tmies that manifested under republican administrations? Your concession is accepted!

I think the choice of education is more relevant here. Yours apparently stems from an arcane outdated source, Mine is more objective and modern. You are obsessed with denigrating a president who was elected 4 times and b dong so you attack the Will of the People accordingly. You have to admit, some of those people who voted for Roosevelt were far smarter than you. why don't yo be reasonable and admit it.

Magical thinking. There is.of.course no way to verify that....we maintain that those programs you promote do nothing to alleviate hunger and in fact create the hungry welfare class....and creates dependence just to justify the constant resource leeching from the.middle class. In other words, communism.

You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism and that both conservative capitalism AND communism are anathemas to a middle class. There is no magic there, just call it empiricism.

Wrong. Socialism didn't create the middle class. Capitalism did. Capitalism created all the cars, houses, refrigerators, radios and TVs that define middle class life. Capitalism provided the jobs that allowed people to pay for these things.

Socialism did nothing to improve the material welfare of the average person. Nothing.

Where did I say socialism created the middle class? I do think the socialist concept of collective bargaining played a huge part in getting capitalist to pay living wages. without THAT there would be no middle class, even amidst flourishing capitalism. Unions, according the RW rhetoric are based on socialist principle. But the reality of unions and their track records clearly dispels your notion that socialism has done nothing to to improve the material welfare of the average person.

"Where did I say socialism created the middle class?"

Your post #973......"You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism..."


There are medications for your A.D.D.
Speak to your doctor to see if they are right for you.

I do remember posting that "there would be no middle class without socialism.." That is not the same as saying socialism created the middle class. Its like saying without water there would be no fish. Obviously water didn't create fish but it is necessary for them to thrive.

Thats is what I meant in regards to socialism. Middle class people who are NOT capitalists thrive in the waters of socialism through collective bargaining and other social endeavors to demand fair living wages, health benefits, workplace safety,social security and a plethora of other benefits that keep them fat and healthy Americans with bright smiling faces!

 

[there4eyeM]

"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The LAW

This proves just what was suspected; your paranoiac response to anything and anyone that displays the slightest divergence from your doctrine. If it is different from your (blind) faith, it is necessarily wrong, evil, SOCIALIST!!

This is why those of us, whom you know nothing of, smile when you group us so automatically with those hated 'commies' you apparently would want to crush out of existence like roaches. Your hate makes them stronger, makes them hate you. You turn up the heat, but diminish the warmth, in human affairs. Your dualism blinds everyone who does not see through you.

We don't hate you. What we feel is much more insulting. We pity you.

 

[Searcher44]

It's hard to evaluate this "blue sky" period in American history without specific dates. "Before" this or that is impossibly subjective. Could you give us specific dates, even decadel references would be helpful. The we can crack a few books and discover for ourselves this almost Utopian sounding period when "the.middle.class exploded, flourished, and expanded.'

Look up "market revolution."

Any legitimate history text will explain it to you.

Thanks for the "study" suggestion. However k-girl has a specific time frame in mind so I'd rather get that from the horse's mouth and not flounder around American history searching for some time period that may or may not conform to the exact period she has at her finger tips. Surely she's willing to share this knowledge with we unwashed and ill-informed?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Magical thinking. There is.of.course no way to verify that....we maintain that those programs you promote do nothing to alleviate hunger and in fact create the hungry welfare class....and creates dependence just to justify the constant resource leeching from the.middle class. In other words, communism.

You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism and that both conservative capitalism AND communism are anathemas to a middle class. There is no magic there, just call it empiricism.

Wrong. Socialism didn't create the middle class. Capitalism did. Capitalism created all the cars, houses, refrigerators, radios and TVs that define middle class life. Capitalism provided the jobs that allowed people to pay for these things.

Socialism did nothing to improve the material welfare of the average person. Nothing.

Where did I say socialism created the middle class? I do think the socialist concept of collective bargaining played a huge part in getting capitalist to pay living wages. without THAT there would be no middle class, even amidst flourishing capitalism. Unions, according the RW rhetoric are based on socialist principle. But the reality of unions and their track records clearly dispels your notion that socialism has done nothing to to improve the material welfare of the average person.

"Where did I say socialism created the middle class?"

Your post #973......"You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism..."


There are medications for your A.D.D.
Speak to your doctor to see if they are right for you.

I do remember posting that "there would be no middle class without socialism.." That is not the same as saying socialism created the middle class. ... Middle class people who are NOT capitalists thrive in the waters of socialism through collective bargaining and other social endeavors to demand fair living wages, health benefits, workplace safety,social security and a plethora of other benefits that keep them fat and healthy Americans with bright smiling faces!"



Only capitalism....the creator of wealth keeps "them fat and healthy Americans with bright smiling faces!"
Socialism disperses the wealth...and wastes it.



The education for which you are so sorely crying out is below.
Take notes.

1. Modern history presents us with two divergent models of economic arrangement: socialism, and capitalism.

2. In its modern beginnings, socialism was optimistic and well intentioned, without the overlay of its contemporary varieties that tend to bemoan prosperity, romanticize poverty, and promote a view that place individual rights are a secondary concern. This is to say that the earliest socialists sought the fullest possible flourishing of humanity, “the common good.”


3. A half-century before Karl Marx published the Communist Manifesto, there was Gracchus Babeuf’s Plebeian Manifesto, which was later renamed the Manifesto of the Equals. Babeuf’s early (1796) work has been described as socialist, anarchist, and communist, and has had an enormous impact. He wrote: “The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, on which will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last…We reach for something more sublime and more just: the common good or the community of goods! Nor more individual property in land: the land belongs to no one.
We demand, we want, the common enjoyment of the fruits of the land: the fruits belong to all.” Here, then, are the major themes of socialist theory.


4. For Babeur, socialism would distribute prosperity across the entire population, as it would “[have] us eat four good meals a day, [dress} us most elegantly, and also [provide] those of us who are fathers of families with charming houses worth a thousand louis each.”


5. Oscar Wilde: “Under socialism…there will be no people living in fetid dens and fetid rags, and bringing up unhealthy, hunger pinched children in the midst of impossible and absolutely repulsive surroundings…Each member of society will share in the general prosperity and happiness of the society…”


6. Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”
But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.
http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2007_05_Imprimis.pdf

Reality rears its head!

Only capitalism....the creator of wealth keeps "them fat and healthy Americans with bright smiling faces!"
Socialism disperses the wealth...and wastes it.



The education for which you are so sorely crying out is below.
Take notes.

1. Modern history presents us with two divergent models of economic arrangement: socialism, and capitalism.

2. In its modern beginnings, socialism was optimistic and well intentioned, without the overlay of its contemporary varieties that tend to bemoan prosperity, romanticize poverty, and promote a view that place individual rights are a secondary concern. This is to say that the earliest socialists sought the fullest possible flourishing of humanity, “the common good.”


3. A half-century before Karl Marx published the Communist Manifesto, there was Gracchus Babeuf’s Plebeian Manifesto, which was later renamed the Manifesto of the Equals. Babeuf’s early (1796) work has been described as socialist, anarchist, and communist, and has had an enormous impact. He wrote: “The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, on which will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last…We reach for something more sublime and more just: the common good or the community of goods! Nor more individual property in land: the land belongs to no one.
We demand, we want, the common enjoyment of the fruits of the land: the fruits belong to all.” Here, then, are the major themes of socialist theory.


4. For Babeur, socialism would distribute prosperity across the entire population, as it would “[have] us eat four good meals a day, [dress} us most elegantly, and also [provide] those of us who are fathers of families with charming houses worth a thousand louis each.”


5. Oscar Wilde: “Under socialism…there will be no people living in fetid dens and fetid rags, and bringing up unhealthy, hunger pinched children in the midst of impossible and absolutely repulsive surroundings…Each member of society will share in the general prosperity and happiness of the society…”


6. Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”
But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes.
http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2007_05_Imprimis.pdf

Reality rears its head!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Thanks for the "study" suggestion. However k-girl has a specific time frame in mind so I'd rather get that from the horse's mouth and not flounder around American history searching for some time period that may or may not conform to the exact period she has at her finger tips. Surely she's willing to share this knowledge with we unwashed and ill-informed?

The explosion and prospering of the middle class is a well known period, the Market Revolution, that defined America as a nation and led to 150 years of growth and prosperity. As we march bravely into this new dark age, it may be good to know what it was that once made us a prosperous people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Thanks for the "study" suggestion. However k-girl has a specific time frame in mind so I'd rather get that from the horse's mouth and not flounder around American history searching for some time period that may or may not conform to the exact period she has at her finger tips. Surely she's willing to share this knowledge with we unwashed and ill-informed?

The explosion and prospering of the middle class is a well known period, the Market Revolution, that defined America as a nation and led to 150 years of growth and prosperity. As we march bravely into this new dark age, it may be good to know what it was that once made us a prosperous people.

One can only cry upon reading the posts of the neo-socialists.
Seems we cannot avoid the 'bell curve' of history.

 

[Uncensored2008]

One can only cry upon reading the posts of the neo-socialists.
Seems we cannot avoid the 'bell curve' of history.

When the Muslims invaded Egypt in the 7th century, they burned the library of Alexandria. Much of the knowledge of the world was consumed in those flames. They were able to destroy the world's knowledge because it was in one place.

Most of the knowledge of our world is on the Internet, as the left wages war on knowledge, expect this to be an early target.

 

[PoliticalChic]

One can only cry upon reading the posts of the neo-socialists.
Seems we cannot avoid the 'bell curve' of history.

When the Muslims invaded Egypt in the 7th century, they burned the library of Alexandria. Much of the knowledge of the world was consumed in those flames. They were able to destroy the world's knowledge because it was in one place.

Most of the knowledge of our world is on the Internet, as the left wages war on knowledge, expect this to be an early target.

Too late.

I posted this in August, 2015....

"A Washington, D.C., appeals court is set to hear arguments later this year on new net neutrality rules, which critics say could lead to government regulators censoring websites such as the Drudge Report and Fox News.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit will hear oral arguments against the Federal Communications Commission's rules on Dec. 4. A panoply of amicus briefs filed with the court last week offer a preview of the arguments.

In its February vote on net neutrality, the Federal Communications Commission stated that broadband providers do not have a right to free speech."
Drudge Fox News could be censored under new federal rules experts warn Washington Examiner


....Liberal fascists in charge.