Yes, You're A Communist

[koshergrl]

Up here in Canada we're not so afraid of words. For instance, if we had a chance to vote for a guy like Bernie Sanders, with his record of commitment to fellow human beings, his non-wavering belief in equality for all, and his demand that politicians should work for the votes of citizens and not sell themselves to the highest bidder, well he could call his party the communist nazi kooks of canada and we'd line up to vote for him for days anyhow. But you go kid, you've got a lot of mileage out of "Communist". I'm sure there's a few more kilometers on that old nag yet.

yes canada is full of communists. tell us something we don't know, and who cares..

Yes, that is doubtless why we have to build a northern wall as well, to keep out all those suffering Canadians streaming south to avoid their government. Every Canadian dreams of getting into the U.S. and the capitalist paradise.

Meanwhile canada is.one of the.most.difficult countries to.illegally hop into.

And the us is no.longer a capitalistic paradise. That's rather the point. Pay attention.

 

[there4eyeM]

It was never a 'capitalist paradise' for any but a few mega-capitalists and monopolists.
It was nearly a paradise for poor farmers coming from the Old World to find rich earth to develop and cultivate.
It was a marvelous experiment in freedom for many.
It was also a hell for the slaves, the Indians, the first generations of many immigrants.
It was and is a paradise for profit mad materialists who are able to buy influence, thus manipulating the system built and maintained by the majority.
These are the folks who push the limits until revolutions occur.

 

[JQPublic1]

And not just in the us. In England the.middle class flourished and.prospered when the crown released its death grip on commerce and cut the.serfs loose, so.to.speak, to make their own fortunes should they endeavor.to.do.so.

Feudalism ended in England before the Black Death of the 13th century, because of the cost of keeping the serfs feed, housed, clothed and medical cost, verses the idea of what they would spend on a freeman..The next step in making a middle class is the industrial revolution and the opening of new lands in the new world.....So how are we today living, going to do what those in the beginning of the industrial age did?

Where is the dividing line between the descriptors "middle class" and " capitalist?" Here is a definition to assist us all in making that determination:

In view of the above definition identifying a middle class person as a capitalist is more complex than one would think. Most people in the middle class aren't wealthy; even those who own businesses. But the middle class beautician who owns her own business also owns the means of production for that business so she is a capitalist. A doctor who works for a hospital makes enough money to be upper middle class but unless he invests in trade or industry for profit he is no capitalist. Alternatively, a doctor who starts his own practice owns the means of production and becomes a capitalist? I am not so sure the definition of "capitalist" started out that way.

 

[Mac1958]

Let's all just agree that everyone to the Left of Mark Levin is a communist.

There! Easy! Now we can all wear these cool hats!

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. " Can you stop chattering long enough to consider how much WORSE off the poor would be today if welfare was eliminated during those years."

So....can I get one of those Magic 8-Balls that you use for the basis of your knowledge?

So you haven't considered how much worse off poor people would be today if welfare wasn't there to help them during the lean tmies that manifested under republican administrations? Your concession is accepted!

2. "I think starving to death is worse than any of the stigmas you associate with welfare! Considering the many socio-econoic upheavals."

Imagine how very different your posts would be if you had an actual education.
Let's take the wonderful job that Democrat Franklin Roosevelt did.....the guy who extended a recession, ended in a year and a half by Republican Harding, into a decade long debacle.

I think the choice of education is more relevant here. Yours apparently stems from an arcane outdated source, Mine is more objective and modern. You are obsessed with denigrating a president who was elected 4 times and b dong so you attack the Will of the People accordingly. You have to admit, some of those people who voted for Roosevelt were far smarter than you. why don't yo be reasonable and admit it.

Magical thinking. There is.of.course no way to verify that....we maintain that those programs you promote do nothing to alleviate hunger and in fact create the hungry welfare class....and creates dependence just to justify the constant resource leeching from the.middle class. In other words, communism.

You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism and that both conservative capitalism AND communism are anathemas to a middle class. There is no magic there, just call it empiricism.

Wrong. Socialism didn't create the middle class. Capitalism did. Capitalism created all the cars, houses, refrigerators, radios and TVs that define middle class life. Capitalism provided the jobs that allowed people to pay for these things.

Socialism did nothing to improve the material welfare of the average person. Nothing.

Where did I say socialism created the middle class? I do think the socialist concept of collective bargaining played a huge part in getting capitalist to pay living wages. without THAT there would be no middle class, even amidst flourishing capitalism. Unions, according the RW rhetoric are based on socialist principle. But the reality of unions and their track records clearly dispels your notion that socialism has done nothing to to improve the material welfare of the average person.

"Where did I say socialism created the middle class?"

Your post #973......"You don't understand that there would be no middle class without socialism..."


There are medications for your A.D.D.
Speak to your doctor to see if they are right for you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Up here in Canada we're not so afraid of words. For instance, if we had a chance to vote for a guy like Bernie Sanders, with his record of commitment to fellow human beings, his non-wavering belief in equality for all, and his demand that politicians should work for the votes of citizens and not sell themselves to the highest bidder, well he could call his party the communist nazi kooks of canada and we'd line up to vote for him for days anyhow. But you go kid, you've got a lot of mileage out of "Communist". I'm sure there's a few more kilometers on that old nag yet.

Gads. you're a fool.

1. "While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, [Eugene Victor] Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery.

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

.... he named their city softball squad the “People’s Republic of Burlington” and the town’s minor league baseball team the “Vermont Reds.”


His radical activities didn’t stop at the water’s edge.

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

His betrayal did not end there. Sanders lobbied the White House to stop the proxy war and even tried to broker a peace deal. He adopted Managua as a sister city and invited Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega to visit the US. He exalted Ortega as “an impressive guy,” while attacking President Reagan.

“The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people — substantially more support — than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,” Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985.

..... honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion "

Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a “speculation tax,” but hit every American with a “global-warming tax.”

Of course, even that wouldn’t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right? " http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/.


2. Have someone with an education explain to you the savagery that results when communists take over a nation.


3. For edification:
"The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression,"
by Jean-Louis Panné (Author), Andrzej Paczkowski (Author), Karel Bartosek (Author), Jean-Louis Margolin (Author), Nicolas Werth (Author), Stéphane Courtois (Author), & 2 more

"Already famous throughout Europe, this international bestseller plumbs recently opened archives in the former Soviet bloc to reveal the actual, practical accomplishments of Communism around the world: terror, torture, famine, mass deportations, and massacres. Astonishing in the sheer detail it amasses, the book is the first comprehensive attempt to catalogue and analyze the crimes of Communism over seventy years."


Sadly, you aren't the only fool.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Up here in Canada we're not so afraid of words. For instance, if we had a chance to vote for a guy like Bernie Sanders, with his record of commitment to fellow human beings, his non-wavering belief in equality for all, and his demand that politicians should work for the votes of citizens and not sell themselves to the highest bidder, well he could call his party the communist nazi kooks of canada and we'd line up to vote for him for days anyhow. But you go kid, you've got a lot of mileage out of "Communist". I'm sure there's a few more kilometers on that old nag yet.

yes canada is full of communists. tell us something we don't know, and who cares..

I'm over sixty, I don't have time to tell you a teeny tiny bit of what you don't know.

I suspect that explaining everything you know wouldn't take more than a few minutes.

 

[there4eyeM]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

 

[PoliticalChic]

Up here in Canada we're not so afraid of words. For instance, if we had a chance to vote for a guy like Bernie Sanders, with his record of commitment to fellow human beings, his non-wavering belief in equality for all, and his demand that politicians should work for the votes of citizens and not sell themselves to the highest bidder, well he could call his party the communist nazi kooks of canada and we'd line up to vote for him for days anyhow. But you go kid, you've got a lot of mileage out of "Communist". I'm sure there's a few more kilometers on that old nag yet.

yes canada is full of communists. tell us something we don't know, and who cares..

Yes, that is doubtless why we have to build a northern wall as well, to keep out all those suffering Canadians streaming south to avoid their government. Every Canadian dreams of getting into the U.S. and the capitalist paradise.

No, you dunce....what we need are real schools that educate, and teach the real history of communism vs capitalism.

Prager puts it this way:

1. American is identified by the “American Trinity” of “Liberty,” “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum.” Liberty refers to personal freedom, based on small government , a free economy, and a God-based society. ,” “In God We Trust,” proceeds from the moral values axiomatic with the Founders. “E Pluribus Unum.” refers to a society based on neither ethnicity nor race.
2. Left refers to the values associated with the Western welfare state, secularism and the vast array of attitudes and positions identified as Left from Karl Marx to contemporary socialist democrat parties and today’s Democratic Party in the United States. [The Left-wing ‘trinity’= race, gender, class.]

We need American Trinity Schools, not the Leftist government schools that turn out dolts like you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

 

[koshergrl]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It was never a 'capitalist paradise' for any but a few mega-capitalists and monopolists.
It was nearly a paradise for poor farmers coming from the Old World to find rich earth to develop and cultivate.
It was a marvelous experiment in freedom for many.
It was also a hell for the slaves, the Indians, the first generations of many immigrants.
It was and is a paradise for profit mad materialists who are able to buy influence, thus manipulating the system built and maintained by the majority.
These are the folks who push the limits until revolutions occur.

"It was never a 'capitalist paradise' for any but a few mega-capitalists and monopolists."

Remember the last time you were correct?
Neither do I.


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3. "These are the folks who push the limits until revolutions occur."
How'd that work out in the Soviet Union?

 

[there4eyeM]

Your argument is not with me. There was no accusation, merely statement, a quotation from someone you profess to believe.
You know nothing about me and constantly, desperately attempt to classify me, to you error. You make yourself ridiculous. The false pride and gratuitous insults are laughably sophomoric, which is the only reason to continue to goad you; for a laugh.
Schools that really do teach are exactly what is necessary. The doctrine when I passed through was how the status quo was God's gift and America was synonymous with 'good'. It was a right-leaning prejudice. Every possible falsehood about contesting theories and doctrines was promulgated. When later study showed these so one-sided, it emphasized the lying so rampant in the society. Vietnam, Iran-Contra, Iraq and so much else could easily have embittered one, and did many. Others simply departed, physically, psychically or even both. We made a separate peace.
Continue with your struggle to convolute reality and compress everything into your simplistic model. You deserve it.

 

[there4eyeM]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

Another projectionist, making obviously erroneous statements out of willful ignorance and/or incapacity to see what is because of being blinded by what is desired to be seen.

 

[koshergrl]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

Another projectionist, making obviously erroneous statements out of willful ignorance and/or incapacity to see what is because of being blinded by what is desired to be seen.

More gibberish, apparently you've surrendered any pretense of making an actual argument.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your argument is not with me. There was no accusation, merely statement, a quotation from someone you profess to believe.
You know nothing about me and constantly, desperately attempt to classify me, to you error. You make yourself ridiculous. The false pride and gratuitous insults are laughably sophomoric, which is the only reason to continue to goad you; for a laugh.
Schools that really do teach are exactly what is necessary. The doctrine when I passed through was how the status quo was God's gift and America was synonymous with 'good'. It was a right-leaning prejudice. Every possible falsehood about contesting theories and doctrines was promulgated. When later study show these so one-sided, it emphasized the lying so rampant in the society. Vietnam, Iran-Contra, Iraq and so much else could easily have embittered one, and did many. Others simply departed, physically, psychically or even both. We made a separate peace.
Continue with your struggle to convolute reality and compress everything into your simplistic model. You deserve it.

1. Here's a plan: provide the quote and/or post to which you are responding.
Your disorganized approach reminds me of nothing so much as an unmade bed.


2. "You know nothing about me and constantly, desperately attempt to classify me, to you error."
I never make an error.
Never.
I post direct and pointed responses and provide the statement to which I am responding.

3." The false pride and gratuitous insults are laughably sophomoric, which is the only reason to continue to goad you; for a laugh."
The tenor of the post proves you are lying....you are wounded.
But....I can be nicer if you can be smarter.


4. "Schools that really do teach are exactly what is necessary."
This one sentence alone is the clearest indication that you are a moron.
You saved me reams of posts.

5. "Continue with your struggle to convolute reality and compress everything into your simplistic model."
Everything I post is linked, sourced and/or documented.
You....merely our greatest source of greenhouse gases.

 

[there4eyeM]

Self-hypnosis is strong in this one!

 

[there4eyeM]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

Another projectionist, making obviously erroneous statements out of willful ignorance and/or incapacity to see what is because of being blinded by what is desired to be seen.

More gibberish, apparently you've surrendered any pretense of making an actual argument.

Argumentation can only be carried out between those who speak the same language.

 

[koshergrl]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

Another projectionist, making obviously erroneous statements out of willful ignorance and/or incapacity to see what is because of being blinded by what is desired to be seen.

More gibberish, apparently you've surrendered any pretense of making an actual argument.

Argumentation can only be carried out between those who speak the same language.

I speak non brainwashed English. And you aren't fooling anyone with your nonsense, commie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Jesus; Mathew 5:22 (KJV)

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling chyeek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

And he was just paraphrasing what the bible tells us.

There's nothing more despicable than anti christians who claim that God wants.good Christians to shut up and step aside.

Another projectionist, making obviously erroneous statements out of willful ignorance and/or incapacity to see what is because of being blinded by what is desired to be seen.

More gibberish, apparently you've surrendered any pretense of making an actual argument.

Argumentation can only be carried out between those who speak the same language.

실제로, 나는 여러 언어 를 구사합니다.