Yes, this county still has economic issues. Conservatives need to explain why that's Obama's fault

[Billy000]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

 

[Rozman]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

I remember Obama saying there weren't many shovel ready jobs after Stimulus...

 

[Billy000]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

I remember Obama saying there weren't many shovel ready jobs after Stimulus...

Don't you realize how ridiculous you people sound when you say things Obama says is somehow proof of economic conditions?

 

[Billy000]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

The primary reason of today's economic hardship is low wages. That's pretty much it. Obama tried to fix this problem.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

Most of the good things are flowing to the 1%...The stock market proves that.

 

[Rozman]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

Most of the good things are flowing to the 1%...The stock market proves that.

If anyone has an IRA account or a 401 k plan I am willing to bet that they are invested in the stock market....
So they are benefitting as well....

But the Libs don't want to talk about that....
Better for them to demonize the evil rich.

I never got a job from a poor person.

 

[occupied]

Conservatives could find a rationale to blame a rainy day on Obama. He is all their fears and prejudices wrapped up in one man, it's no wonder they lost their minds.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Liberals need to explain how Obama was the solution to US economic woes. If he were, at least half if not all of Capitol Hill would be (D) right now.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Yes, we need jobs, millions of jobs. We need jobs that cover all education and skill levels. We need an adequate number of living wage jobs. We need manufacturing jobs. We need jobs in every state. We need to provide self-supporting opportunities for everyone between the ages of 18 and 65, that are able and capable of working. We need to get citizens off government assistance programs, and on payrolls. We need to drastically reduce our dependency on cheap foreign imports. We need to put America back to work, producing what America uses and consumes.

For way too many years, we've sacrificed our economic well-being in favor of strengthening foreign economies. We've lost way too many industries to cheap foreign labor markets. We've lost most of the jobs that once provided self-supporting opportunities that covered all education and skill levels. We've lost all or part of the textile, electronics, furniture, farm equipment, automotive parts and supplies, tools, toys, steel, and appliance industries over the past 50 plus years. We've closed our plants and factories and sent those jobs outside of our borders.

Due to our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, and costly union labor, we've become unemployed, living off of government assistance programs, and are no longer a self-supporting citizenry, nor a self-supporting nation. Corporate greed and unpunished anti-America practices, has encouraged off-shore job out-sourcing, the importing of labor, and allowing millions of illegal immigrants to live and work in this country. In addition, technology, innovation, and automation has replaced many workers. Businesses are now able to produce more with less employees. Combined, the above has created an employers' market, resulting in lower wages and less company paid benefits offered.

The solutions would be to re-write our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, so that they become fair, equal, and balanced foreign trade agreements and policies. We need to severely punish the off-shore out-sourcing of jobs, severely punish the importing of labor, and severely punish the hiring of illegal immigrants. We need to put America to work on much needed infrastructure projects. We need to invest enormous sums of money on R&D to develop alternative energy sources. Jobs are created through the demand for goods and services, and for R&D. We need to create a positive cash flow within our own economy via producing goods and services, encouraged and enabled by consumer spending. We need to wean ourselves of cheap foreign made goods, and stock store shelves with American made products.

We need a Congress and a president that puts America first, stops being puppets for Wall Street and corporate America, stops being controlled by Lobbyists and the financial institutions, and puts America's well-being and prosperity above all else. In other words, we need a pro-America government seated in Washington, serving the American citizenry.

 

[Rozman]

Conservatives could find a rationale to blame a rainy day on Obama. He is all their fears and prejudices wrapped up in one man, it's no wonder they lost their minds.

And Liberals credit Obama for the sun ....

 

[occupied]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

Most of the good things are flowing to the 1%...The stock market proves that.

If anyone has an IRA account or a 401 k plan I am willing to bet that they are invested in the stock market....
So they are benefitting as well....

But the Libs don't want to talk about that....
Better for them to demonize the evil rich.

I never got a job from a poor person.

You never got summarily laid off by a poor person either. The rich have just as much power to make your life suck as they do to make it better, quit worshiping them.

 

[Rozman]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

Most of the good things are flowing to the 1%...The stock market proves that.

If anyone has an IRA account or a 401 k plan I am willing to bet that they are invested in the stock market....
So they are benefitting as well....

But the Libs don't want to talk about that....
Better for them to demonize the evil rich.

I never got a job from a poor person.

You never got summarily laid off by a poor person either. The rich have just as much power to make your life suck as they do to make it better, quit worshiping them.

I don't worship the rich like the left worships Obama....

 

[saveliberty]

The CBO creates models based on information supplied by Congress. The government didn't create any jobs, the private sector made them all.

The recovery was the slowest ever experienced, that is a direct result of policies by the administration. One example would be the QEs which kept investment capital out of the hands of private parties.

Also, the bailouts delayed the auto industry recovery. It took actual bankruptcy to restructure and make them viable again.

Banks were made whole by government, not homeowners. Most of us are still below the market values for our homes prior to that whole deal.

 

[Billy000]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Yes, we need jobs, millions of jobs. We need jobs that cover all education and skill levels. We need an adequate number of living wage jobs. We need manufacturing jobs. We need jobs in every state. We need to provide self-supporting opportunities for everyone between the ages of 18 and 65, that are able and capable of working. We need to get citizens off government assistance programs, and on payrolls. We need to drastically reduce our dependency on cheap foreign imports. We need to put America back to work, producing what America uses and consumes.

For way too many years, we've sacrificed our economic well-being in favor of strengthening foreign economies. We've lost way too many industries to cheap foreign labor markets. We've lost most of the jobs that once provided self-supporting opportunities that covered all education and skill levels. We've lost all or part of the textile, electronics, furniture, farm equipment, automotive parts and supplies, tools, toys, steel, and appliance industries over the past 50 plus years. We've closed our plants and factories and sent those jobs outside of our borders.

Due to our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, and costly union labor, we've become unemployed, living off of government assistance programs, and are no longer a self-supporting citizenry, nor a self-supporting nation. Corporate greed and unpunished anti-America practices, has encouraged off-shore job out-sourcing, the importing of labor, and allowing millions of illegal immigrants to live and work in this country. In addition, technology, innovation, and automation has replaced many workers. Businesses are now able to produce more with less employees. Combined, the above has created an employers' market, resulting in lower wages and less company paid benefits offered.

The solutions would be to re-write our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, so that they become fair, equal, and balanced foreign trade agreements and policies. We need to severely punish the off-shore out-sourcing of jobs, severely punish the importing of labor, and severely punish the hiring of illegal immigrants. We need to put America to work on much needed infrastructure projects. We need to invest enormous sums of money on R&D to develop alternative energy sources. Jobs are created through the demand for goods and services, and for R&D. We need to create a positive cash flow within our own economy via producing goods and services, encouraged and enabled by consumer spending. We need to wean ourselves of cheap foreign made goods, and stock store shelves with American made products.

We need a Congress and a president that puts America first, stops being puppets for Wall Street and corporate America, stops being controlled by Lobbyists and the financial institutions, and puts America's well-being and prosperity above all else. In other words, we need a pro-America government seated in Washington, serving the American citizenry.

You do bring up good points. I did leave out a few specifics you mentioned. Corporate greed and a lack of manufacturing are important issues we still face.

I'm all for getting people off food stamps, but in order to do that we need to boost wages. We can't just cut these people off before that.

 

[occupied]

Why aren't real people on the streets experiencing all these good things? Where's my book cook...I mean cook book. I'm so glad the rising stock market has brought some prosperity to people overseas.

Most of the good things are flowing to the 1%...The stock market proves that.

If anyone has an IRA account or a 401 k plan I am willing to bet that they are invested in the stock market....
So they are benefitting as well....

But the Libs don't want to talk about that....
Better for them to demonize the evil rich.

I never got a job from a poor person.

You never got summarily laid off by a poor person either. The rich have just as much power to make your life suck as they do to make it better, quit worshiping them.

I don't worship the rich like the left worships Obama....

The left does not worship Obama they just generally support him, however, Obama derangement syndrome is a very real and demonstrable thing on the right. You guys cannot even hear his name without flying into an unthinking blind rage or totally believing the most outrageous, paranoid things the pundits tell you.

 

[Billy000]

The CBO creates models based on information supplied by Congress. The government didn't create any jobs, the private sector made them all.

The recovery was the slowest ever experienced, that is a direct result of policies by the administration. One example would be the QEs which kept investment capital out of the hands of private parties.

Also, the bailouts delayed the auto industry recovery. It took actual bankruptcy to restructure and make them viable again.

Banks were made whole by government, not homeowners. Most of us are still below the market values for our homes prior to that whole deal.

The private sector created those jobs because of government legislation. The unemployment benefits that were extended for the millions of people allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise. The tax cut for the middle class also boosted consumer spending. A boost in consumer spending created economic growth.

Um the actual rate of the recovery isn't slow. The recession was simply the worst since the Great Depression. That's why it took so long. Since the passing of the stimulus, at least 150,000 private jobs have been create EVERY MONTH.

The auto bail out worked whether you like it or not.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Conservatives like to tout the economic problems this country still faces while simulataneously ignoring all of the very good news such as the low unemployment rate and the success of the stock market. They either ignore this good news or say Obama had nothing to do with it.

They blame the low labor participation rate on Obama without actually connecting any of his policies to it. Here are the facts on this however:

1) It has been declining since before Obama came to office. The economic meltdown happened on Bush's watch.
2) The primary reasons for it is baby boomers retiring, more people going on disability, and discouragement from finding new jobs because of low wages and not being qualified - not a shortage of the jobs themselves.

See, Obama tied to fix this problem in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to start job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these inititiatives. They are morons.

Obama's stimulus alone created 3 million private jobs out of the total 11 million created since his terms began.

Now any actual expert will tell you a president only has so much to do with all of this economic good news and bad news. However you cons like to say anything wrong with this country is Obama's fault and none of the good news is because of him. Don't you realize how immature and disingenuous you come across when you make these claims?

CBO Stimulus added up to 3.3M jobs - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

Yes, we need jobs, millions of jobs. We need jobs that cover all education and skill levels. We need an adequate number of living wage jobs. We need manufacturing jobs. We need jobs in every state. We need to provide self-supporting opportunities for everyone between the ages of 18 and 65, that are able and capable of working. We need to get citizens off government assistance programs, and on payrolls. We need to drastically reduce our dependency on cheap foreign imports. We need to put America back to work, producing what America uses and consumes.

For way too many years, we've sacrificed our economic well-being in favor of strengthening foreign economies. We've lost way too many industries to cheap foreign labor markets. We've lost most of the jobs that once provided self-supporting opportunities that covered all education and skill levels. We've lost all or part of the textile, electronics, furniture, farm equipment, automotive parts and supplies, tools, toys, steel, and appliance industries over the past 50 plus years. We've closed our plants and factories and sent those jobs outside of our borders.

Due to our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, and costly union labor, we've become unemployed, living off of government assistance programs, and are no longer a self-supporting citizenry, nor a self-supporting nation. Corporate greed and unpunished anti-America practices, has encouraged off-shore job out-sourcing, the importing of labor, and allowing millions of illegal immigrants to live and work in this country. In addition, technology, innovation, and automation has replaced many workers. Businesses are now able to produce more with less employees. Combined, the above has created an employers' market, resulting in lower wages and less company paid benefits offered.

The solutions would be to re-write our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, so that they become fair, equal, and balanced foreign trade agreements and policies. We need to severely punish the off-shore out-sourcing of jobs, severely punish the importing of labor, and severely punish the hiring of illegal immigrants. We need to put America to work on much needed infrastructure projects. We need to invest enormous sums of money on R&D to develop alternative energy sources. Jobs are created through the demand for goods and services, and for R&D. We need to create a positive cash flow within our own economy via producing goods and services, encouraged and enabled by consumer spending. We need to wean ourselves of cheap foreign made goods, and stock store shelves with American made products.

We need a Congress and a president that puts America first, stops being puppets for Wall Street and corporate America, stops being controlled by Lobbyists and the financial institutions, and puts America's well-being and prosperity above all else. In other words, we need a pro-America government seated in Washington, serving the American citizenry.

You do bring up good points. I did leave out a few specifics you mentioned. Corporate greed and a lack of manufacturing are important issues we still face.

I'm all for getting people off food stamps, but in order to do that we need to boost wages. We can't just cut these people off before that.

I'd never cut them off either. They need the help.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

So those 47 million food stamp recipients and 3.75 million homeless are doing jigs in the streets at our wonderous properity? Leftists are unsympathetic curs when it comes to the massive number of poor in this country, because they don't give a damn about them, and they want them to stay invisible, except when it comes time to vote. Forbes puts our national unemployment figure at 11.8%. Forbes is never wrong. The left is always wrong.

 

[Rozman]

Recovery out of a recession the worst....
Yet Liberals only want Obama to get credit for anything but never any blame...
How does that work in the land of reality.