candycorn
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I don't know if he is or not. What I know is that the current President has done a poor job. I'd rather have someone who is out of touch doing a good job than someone who is in touch doing a poor job.
Poor job by what metric?
The last time we had a calamity in the financial world that was this big (and incidently caused by conservative republican laissez-faire economics), it took a war, a whole package of social programs and nearly a decade to recover.
So really Toro..what are you basing this on? Our own history? Or other countries?
Like Japan..who basically took a decade or so to recover from it's meltdown. Or Britain..who's still in a slump.
- He spent enormous political capital on health care reform that lead to a massive political defeat in 2010 and the loss of Ted Kennedy's seat in the Senate, which he had circumvented the rules of the Senate to pass, when he should have been focused like a laser on the economy.
- He has exacerbated the political tensions in Washington and in this country. If you blame the Tea Party and the Republicans solely for the level of vitriol in the political arena, you are as every bit as blindly partisan as anyone on the right.
- He has engaged in demonization and class warfare against the wealthy, both in rhetoric and in policy. I don't mind the better off paying more in taxes but some of his prescriptions have been bullshit politics, ie ending deductions on jets is nothing but class baiting garbage. He has been more political and divisive than Bush and Karl Rove were. And FTR, I supported Democrats pretty much across the board from 00 to 08.
- He seems to have little understanding of how the economy and business works. He does not get blame for the recession but his policies and rhetoric are impeding a recovery.
- His handling of the budget has been just awful. I mean, if he could pass one. This isn't about running trillion dollar deficits now. This is about the future. He has no plan at all to ever begin paying down the enormous debt we have put on. Run deficits now, pay them off later. He has forgotten the latter part. His abandonment of Simpson-Bowles speaks volumes. And let's not forget that he has completely ignored the entitlements ticking time bomb that is going to eventually explode.
- Lack of leadership brutally exposed during the debt ceiling debacle. Again, if you're just blaming the Tea Party for that, you are just as hyper partisan as anyone on the right. Our debt rating was downgraded on his watch. The buck stops with him. And the leadership vacuum coming out of the WH during that time was absolutely astonishing.
Great, we didn't get into any new ground wars. Good for him. But that's a pretty low bar. Otherwise, the Democrats have been a disaster.
The lack of leadership is something that you can hang your hat on. He's been MIA at times.
I don't think you can blame him for the divisiveness in the Nation however. I would ask you to support that with facts. If you're going to point to policy stances...okay but that isn't divisive because if someone takes a different stance and won't come to your position, you could easily say they're being divisive; could you not?
I'd say the rich have declared war on the less well off. What is it now; the average CEO makes 700 times what their lowest employee makes? It used to be something like 100 or something like that. The "corporate jet" line that most wingnuts trot out; shit...it's an example. Should he stick to the abstract?
Again, I don't see anything Romney has proposed making an awlful lot of sense outside of a policy he wants to start to where regulations that will affect the economy have to get Congressional approval. I can get next to that but you're going to turn clean air into a political football that way which is what the cabinet level agencies were supposed to rise above.
The military spending INCREASE is a non-starter for me.
So it goes....