Would Muhammad join ISIS?

[Hossfly]

You can say this veteran just blew up all the arguments via @imgur

 

[aris2chat]

Is "the religion of peace", Islam, in line or contradiction with what ISIS does?

Is ISIS following the teachings of Muhammad or no?

We all know how much of a 'warrior' Muhammad was supposed to be.....we he join or lead ISIS?

Would Muhammad Join ISIS? - Newsletter Log
ISIS is quintessentially Islamic, and an honest and close reading of the Islamic holy texts and traditions reveal that Muhammad would not only join the Islamic State, but he would lead it.

ISIS believe because of the way they read the quran that they are following the teaching of Mohammed. Most muslims would disagree, but they would not all go the extent of excommunication of ISIS from being muslims.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Is "the religion of peace", Islam, in line or contradiction with what ISIS does?

Is ISIS following the teachings of Muhammad or no?

We all know how much of a 'warrior' Muhammad was supposed to be.....we he join or lead ISIS?

Would Muhammad Join ISIS? - Newsletter Log
ISIS is quintessentially Islamic, and an honest and close reading of the Islamic holy texts and traditions reveal that Muhammad would not only join the Islamic State, but he would lead it.

Muslim scholars don't agree.

Well gosh, it's okay then.

Well gosh, maybe they know more about their religion than you?

10% want to kill you
10% will help them kill you
79% will watch them kill you
1% will send a letter out condemning your killing so that 100% of leftist will do nothing, b/c, yaknow, they got a letter.


but there's good news

100% of conservatives don't want to see you get killed, even though you stand in their way.

 

[irosie91]

If we were talking about just a few nutjobs in a splinter group doing stupid shit, I might believe that they don't accurately represent.....but we're talking about a HUGE group with even more and scores of supporters cheering them on

A "huge group" of how many, out of a population of 1.6 billion?

hundreds of millions

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

 

[Dajjal]

The most obvious difference between ISIS or any terror group and Mohammed is ISIS executes captives where Islam requires a trial just as Judaism does. Can't just execute people because you claim they're guilty of some death penalty offense. They still get a trial in both Judaism and Islam.

And while not as expert in Islam, I know that if people aren't actively waging war against you or Islam, murdering them isn't permitted as terrorism by it's very nature does.

Here are two reputable hadiths on acts of Muhammad that prove you wrong.


Hadith Bukhari

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794:

Narrated Anas:

Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.


Hadith Bukhari
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 286:
Narrated Salama bin Al-Akwa:

"An infidel spy came to the Prophet while he was on a journey. The spy sat with the companions of the Prophet and started talking and then went away. The Prophet said (to his companions), 'Chase and kill him.' So, I killed him." The Prophet then gave him the belongings of the killed spy (in addition to his share of the war booty).

 

[Dot Com]

If we were talking about just a few nutjobs in a splinter group doing stupid shit, I might believe that they don't accurately represent.....but we're talking about a HUGE group with even more and scores of supporters cheering them on

A "huge group" of how many, out of a population of 1.6 billion?

hundreds of millions

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

FAIL!!! "100's of millions" Stop making stuff up Aipac grl Link or

 

[irosie91]

If we were talking about just a few nutjobs in a splinter group doing stupid shit, I might believe that they don't accurately represent.....but we're talking about a HUGE group with even more and scores of supporters cheering them on

A "huge group" of how many, out of a population of 1.6 billion?

hundreds of millions

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

FAIL!!! "100's of millions" Stop making stuff up Aipac grl Link or

reality frightens you

 

[Sunni Man]

The most obvious difference between ISIS or any terror group and Mohammed is ISIS executes captives where Islam requires a trial just as Judaism does. Can't just execute people because you claim they're guilty of some death penalty offense. They still get a trial in both Judaism and Islam.

And while not as expert in Islam, I know that if people aren't actively waging war against you or Islam, murdering them isn't permitted as terrorism by it's very nature does.

Summary execution happens on the battlefield but rarely gets reported.

Most armies, including the US, has historically shot captured snipers on the spot. ......

 

[Delta4Embassy]

If they got lucky they got shot. If not lucky, flamethrowers and left to burn.

 

[Dot Com]

A "huge group" of how many, out of a population of 1.6 billion?

hundreds of millions

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

FAIL!!! "100's of millions" Stop making stuff up Aipac grl Link or

reality frightens you

Stiil no link as to the REAL membership size of Daesh eh? Figures.

 

[irosie91]

Delta dawn----you are wrong-----Islamic law does not require a TRIAL in order to
execute a non muslim even OFF the battle field and even in time of peace. It does require a trial in order to execute a muslim. According to ISLAMIC LAW -----
SYED FAROOK committed no crime

 

[irosie91]

hundreds of millions

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

FAIL!!! "100's of millions" Stop making stuff up Aipac grl Link or

reality frightens you

Stiil no link as to the REAL membership size of Daesh eh? Figures.

I never claimed I had a link to the SIZE OF DAESH MEMBERSHIP----fucking islamo Nazi bitch

 

[Sunni Man]

If they got lucky they got shot. If not lucky, flamethrowers and left to burn.

When ISIS burned the captured Jordanian alive in the cage. I knew the organization had gone off the deep end.

Islam expressly forbids execution by immolation. .....

 

[Dot Com]

link?

link for what?-----do you understand the concept of STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE??

FAIL!!! "100's of millions" Stop making stuff up Aipac grl Link or

reality frightens you

Stiil no link as to the REAL membership size of Daesh eh? Figures.

I never claimed I had a link to the SIZE OF DAESH MEMBERSHIP----fucking islamo Nazi bitch

Aipac grl melt down!!!

Then STOP MAKING STUFF UP Tubby

 

[Delta4Embassy]

If they got lucky they got shot. If not lucky, flamethrowers and left to burn.

When ISIS burned the captured Jordanian alive in the cage. I knew the organization had gone off the deep end.

Islam expressly forbids execution by immolation. .....

Judaism doesn't.

That the Court shall pass sentence of death by burning with fire (Lev. 20:14)

 

[Programmer]

Is "the religion of peace", Islam, in line or contradiction with what ISIS does?

Is ISIS following the teachings of Muhammad or no?

We all know how much of a 'warrior' Muhammad was supposed to be.....we he join or lead ISIS?

Would Muhammad Join ISIS? - Newsletter Log
ISIS is quintessentially Islamic, and an honest and close reading of the Islamic holy texts and traditions reveal that Muhammad would not only join the Islamic State, but he would lead it.

Muslim scholars don't agree.

Well gosh, it's okay then.

Well gosh, maybe they know more about their religion than you?

First, quote these scholars to the contrary. I don't think they exist.

This is a part of the world that has been steeped in islamic states since Muhammad; I don't see how anyone logically defends anything contrary to that.

 

[Coyote]

Is "the religion of peace", Islam, in line or contradiction with what ISIS does?

Is ISIS following the teachings of Muhammad or no?

We all know how much of a 'warrior' Muhammad was supposed to be.....we he join or lead ISIS?

Would Muhammad Join ISIS? - Newsletter Log
ISIS is quintessentially Islamic, and an honest and close reading of the Islamic holy texts and traditions reveal that Muhammad would not only join the Islamic State, but he would lead it.

Muslim scholars don't agree.

Well gosh, it's okay then.

Well gosh, maybe they know more about their religion than you?

First, quote these scholars to the contrary. I don't think they exist.

This is a part of the world that has been steeped in islamic states since Muhammad; I don't see how anyone logically defends anything contrary to that.

ISIS is a self-declared Islamic State. Kind of like North Korea is a self-declared democratic state.

Over 1,000 Islamic scholars condemn killing of innocents by ISIS - Times of India

In what is being projected as the "biggest fatwa (religious edict)" against Islamic State (ISIS) by Indian Islamic scholars, as many as 1,050 muftis and imams from all over the country have jointly condemned the killing of innocent people by ISIS and posting of images and videos of the crimes online as "un-Islamic" and contrary to the tenets of Shariat.
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24 reasons ISIS are wrong: Muslim scholars blast Islamic State

A large group of Islamic theologians addressed the head of the Islamic State in an open letter, articulately accusing the movement of practices that have nothing to do with Islam, even rejecting the extremists’ right to call themselves jihadists.

Over a hundred Muslim scholars and clergymen from all over the world have released on Wednesday an address to Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, accusing the self-proclaimed caliph and his army of heinous war crimes and violation of fundamental principles of Islam, illiterate use of Islamic scripture torn from the context and perversion of the rules of morality and Sharia law.​

ISIS Really Wants Power—Not Islam

http://jihad.info/scholar-refutes-claims-of-isis-s-links-to-islam.html

Hamza Yusuf, one such Islamic scholar trained in traditional Islamic theology and jurisprudence, finds both the arguments and the conclusions in Wood’s piece lacking in merit. Yusuf is the co-founder of the first Muslim liberal arts college in the United States,Zaytuna College in Berkeley, California, and has studied the Islamic tradition for decades in many countries, including the United Arab Emirates, Morocco, and Mauritania. He has beendescribed as “the Western world’s most influential Islamic scholar” and was ranked 35th on Jordan’s Royal Islamic Strategic Studies Centre’s list of the 500 most influential Muslims in the world.


“ISIS is very similar to the Kharijites, who were a toxic off-shoot of Islam,” Yusuf told us. “It’s not Islam; it’s a perversion of Islam, and to label these militant externalities as Islam is to legitimize their actions.” The Kharijites were the 7th century self-proclaimed Muslims who sowed discord in early Islamic history. They were known for their extremist doctrines and their penchant for declaring other Muslims as disbelievers—an act known as takfir—and engaging in murderous violence against them. Amongst their acts was the assassination of the Prophet Muhammad’s cousin, Ali ibn Abi Talib, who was the first Imam of Shia Muslims and regarded as the fourth and final “rightly guided” Caliph by Sunni Muslims.​

 

[Meathead]

Saying that those who follow the purist form of Islam are not true Muslims is just plain goofy.

 

[Coyote]

Saying that those who follow the purist form of Islam are not true Muslims is just plain goofy.

It's not the "purist" form of Islam, except in the minds of rightwing whackos.

 

[Meathead]

Saying that those who follow the purist form of Islam are not true Muslims is just plain goofy.

It's not the "purist" form of Islam, except in the minds of rightwing whackos.

Those people know more about Islam. Being pretentious is one thing, but pretending to know jack about something on which you are clueless is another.

Save that knee-jerk crap for those at your level. Know your limits.