World without Oil?

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    Let's say that the world is about to run out of Oil (I do not claim to know that, I am simply making a situation) what would be your major concerns?

    My major concerns are, as follows:

    1. I am in the military, what is going to change, in strategy in warfare? What exactly are we going to do if we cannot keep up the supply to our vehicles/technology?

    2. How will farming change? My family owns a farm, and so does every other family in the Clan (the Clan is what we call our overall family which is about 250+ people) and I am wondering: How are we going to supply tractors/combines/planters/seeders/etc? Are we going to revert back to Mule/Oxen/Donkey powered? What about Steam Powered Tractors?

    3. Will it affect political stand-points of alliances/treaties? Will people ally the strongest player that is left? Who will the strongest player be?

    4. How will I save a load of money on my mule insurance?

    Anyways, what are your concerns? Do you think this will even happen? Or is this just a false theory?

    Thanks for any discussion brought into the thread, and have a great Saturday, November 20th.

    ~Edit~ Also, I really hope someone can bring links to show arguments on both sides of whether this will happen or not, I'd definitely read any links with information you post. Thanks.
     
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    According to the experts we ran out in the mid 80's. Also if peak oil has really happened why are oil companies STILL finding new oil deposits all over the world?
     
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    I never claimed peak oil, or any shortage of oil has happened, I simply asked what you would do if the situation did happen or information on whether it will or not. Do you have any information I could look at, that you read on? I'd really like any links to information that you read on.
     
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    Oil is no where near close to running out. Go read the Oil Companies blogs, they are finding new oil fields all the time. Not to mention the amount of oil still in the old wells. Not to mention the amount of oil in other forms.

    You have no need to worry about a Hypothetical that simply is not going to happen any time soon. Further there are other sources of fuel. Algea can be grown rapidly and can produce ethanol. Natural gas can be converted to a fuel source. Hydrogen can be used. And of course you mentioned steam power.

    Find something that might happen in your life time to worry about.
     
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    I will try to find oil company blog websites, thanks for the reccommendation on that.

    I was under the impression they had not found a way to convert algae into ethanol yet? Well, I would hope it never gets to steam power for tractors lol, although if it does I'd still work I mean, can't not work, just hope never gets that bad.

    Eh, I just like to contemplate situations, even if they are non-sense to others, I respect everyone's opinion, and I respect facts, and you supplied both, thank you. Just one question I have for you: What are some somethings you think could happen to worry about? I mean, what is likely to happen in the future to worry about? No sarcasm I promise, I just want to know your opinion on the subject of future problems/issues arising.
     
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    Here's a good one: RIGZONE - Your Gateway to the Oil & Gas Industry

    You can subscribe to "Today's Industry News". I've received over 300 emails in the past 14 months- nearly every one of them includes a new discovery somewhere in the world.
     
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    The appetite for oil receeded for a little while during the recent downturn but usage is starting to rise again. There are alternative fuels but the cost is prohibitive. The oil in the shale in the US is 1.5 trillion barrels. (5X+ SA oil reserves)
    Oil Shale Reserves

    The problem has been the technology to extract it and the cost. The cheap oil is going, going, and gone soon. The deeper we drill at sea and attempts at extracting the shale oil promises higer prices for fuel in the future. At present over 60% of the price of gas is derived from the price of crude oil.

    If the price of fuel triples the cost of shipping those computers from halfway across the planet becomes problematic. I can forsee, in this case, the very industries that went overseas, scurrying back because the transportation costs have become too much of a burden. So in a simplistic labor model, this might be a good thing. Of course there are other aspects that may have a negative impact too.
     
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    Since this will not occur for the next 200-300 years at the very earliest, why worry yourself? And besides, in about a century at the worst, we'll have a useful replacement.

    Oh, and you can expect ethanol to be dead in 10 years tops. Biodiesel has a slim shot.
     
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    Before oil, more people and livestock were needed to work the farms. Rural communities were more self sufficient, and not merely bedroom communities for commuters, or decaying because of lack of economic activity. People ate more regional foods, and foods from other regions were considered more exotic because transportation was more difficult.
     
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    Absolutely not true. It takes less fuel to ship a computer from China to your door than for you to drive to work & back.
     

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