World respect for the US drops sharply under Trump

[Oldstyle]

And the moment the shit hits the fan they'll be expecting us to save them.

Actually, when the shit hits the fan, the US will find itself alone

And that means what????

What that means is in a global conflict, we cannot count on our allies to support us

Kind of like Bush's "Coalition of the willing" in Iraq except that Trump can't count on UK support

Tell me how we needed them again? Hell during the Nobel peace prize guys Libya war Great Britain had to rent one of our AWACs to protect their ships. And the socialist were so military poor they could only afford to fire off three tomahawk missiles..


And give me a break we don't need any of them..


Gulf war one


Country Number of Personnel Comments / Major Events

United States 697,000[1] Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Battle of Khafji
Battle of 73 Easting
Battle of Al Busayyah
Battle of Phase Line Bullet
Battle of Medina Ridge
Battle of Wadi Al-Batin
Battle of Norfolk

Saudi Arabia 60,000 – 100,000 Operation Desert Shield
Battle of Khafji
Operation Desert Storm

United Kingdom 53,462[2] Operation Granby

Egypt 20,000 Operation Desert Storm

France 18,000 Opération Daguet

Syria 14,500 Operation Desert Storm

Morocco 13,000 Security Personnel

Kuwait 9,900 Invasion of Kuwait
Operation Desert Storm

Oman 6,300 Operation Desert Storm

Pakistan 4,900 – 5,500 Backup team

Canada 4,600 Operation Friction

United Arab Emirates 4,300 Operation Desert Storm

Qatar 2,600 Battle of Khafji

Bangladesh 2,300[3] (Operation Moru-prantar) Security Personnel including 2 field Ambulance teams

Italy 1,900 Deployed 8 Panavia Tornado strike attack aircraft, Naval deployment

Australia 700 Australian contribution to the 1991 Gulf War

Netherlands 700 Naval deployment; Air Force deployments of Surface-to-Air Missiles to Turkey and Israel

Niger 600 Patroller group

Sweden 525[4] Field hospital

Argentina 500 Navy / Air Force

Senegal 500 Base Guards

Spain 500 on the field / 3,000 off the coast Engineers
Bahrain 400 Base Guards
Belgium 400 Base Engineers
Poland 319 Operation Simoom
Naval & medical deployment
South Korea 314 Medical & transportation support
Norway 280 Naval vessel & Field hospital + intelligence information
Czechoslovakia 200 Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Czechoslovakia in the Gulf War
Greece 200 Pilots
Denmark 100 HDMS Olfert Fischer (Niels Juel Class Korvet)
New Zealand 100 2 C-130 Herculestransporter aircraft[5]
Hungary 50

What it means is ....when we want boots on the ground, those boots will be made in the USA

The Great Obama was successful in getting our allies to bear more of the burden in Egypt, Libya and Syria as well as an increased presence with Afghanistan

It means fewer US lives lost

More American lives were lost in Afghanistan under Barack Obama then were lost there under George W. Bush and HE had to invade a country! The Great Obama wasn't so great when it came to military tactics.

 

[Oldstyle]

There was a war in Egypt? Who knew?

 

[Esmeralda]

Im ok with it.
hat reasons would they have for thinking that? Policy? Thinking of us? Cutting off funding to other people? Calling peoples bullshit out?

For those who seem unaware, since WWII the US president has been seen as the leader of the free world. No longer. Not since Trump.

Lord of the Flies...Trump = Jack

 

[TNHarley]

Im ok with it.
hat reasons would they have for thinking that? Policy? Thinking of us? Cutting off funding to other people? Calling peoples bullshit out?

For those who seem unaware, since WWII the US president has been seen as the leader of the free world. No longer. Not since Trump.

Lord of the Flies...Trump = Jack
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So what is their problem esmeralda?

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, when the shit hits the fan, the US will find itself alone

And that means what????

What that means is in a global conflict, we cannot count on our allies to support us

Kind of like Bush's "Coalition of the willing" in Iraq except that Trump can't count on UK support

Tell me how we needed them again? Hell during the Nobel peace prize guys Libya war Great Britain had to rent one of our AWACs to protect their ships. And the socialist were so military poor they could only afford to fire off three tomahawk missiles..


And give me a break we don't need any of them..


Gulf war one


Country Number of Personnel Comments / Major Events

United States 697,000[1] Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Battle of Khafji
Battle of 73 Easting
Battle of Al Busayyah
Battle of Phase Line Bullet
Battle of Medina Ridge
Battle of Wadi Al-Batin
Battle of Norfolk

Saudi Arabia 60,000 – 100,000 Operation Desert Shield
Battle of Khafji
Operation Desert Storm

United Kingdom 53,462[2] Operation Granby

Egypt 20,000 Operation Desert Storm

France 18,000 Opération Daguet

Syria 14,500 Operation Desert Storm

Morocco 13,000 Security Personnel

Kuwait 9,900 Invasion of Kuwait
Operation Desert Storm

Oman 6,300 Operation Desert Storm

Pakistan 4,900 – 5,500 Backup team

Canada 4,600 Operation Friction

United Arab Emirates 4,300 Operation Desert Storm

Qatar 2,600 Battle of Khafji

Bangladesh 2,300[3] (Operation Moru-prantar) Security Personnel including 2 field Ambulance teams

Italy 1,900 Deployed 8 Panavia Tornado strike attack aircraft, Naval deployment

Australia 700 Australian contribution to the 1991 Gulf War

Netherlands 700 Naval deployment; Air Force deployments of Surface-to-Air Missiles to Turkey and Israel

Niger 600 Patroller group

Sweden 525[4] Field hospital

Argentina 500 Navy / Air Force

Senegal 500 Base Guards

Spain 500 on the field / 3,000 off the coast Engineers
Bahrain 400 Base Guards
Belgium 400 Base Engineers
Poland 319 Operation Simoom
Naval & medical deployment
South Korea 314 Medical & transportation support
Norway 280 Naval vessel & Field hospital + intelligence information
Czechoslovakia 200 Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Czechoslovakia in the Gulf War
Greece 200 Pilots
Denmark 100 HDMS Olfert Fischer (Niels Juel Class Korvet)
New Zealand 100 2 C-130 Herculestransporter aircraft[5]
Hungary 50

What it means is ....when we want boots on the ground, those boots will be made in the USA

The Great Obama was successful in getting our allies to bear more of the burden in Egypt, Libya and Syria as well as an increased presence with Afghanistan

It means fewer US lives lost

More American lives were lost in Afghanistan under Barack Obama then were lost there under George W. Bush and HE had to invade a country! The Great Obama wasn't so great when it came to military tactics.

That is true

After taking most of Afghanistan in 2002, Bush abandoned the war on terror to pursue his ill-advised invasion of Iraq
By the time the Great Obama took office in 2009, the Taliban had retaken much of Afghanistan and the shadow government was crumbling

We are still paying a price for Bush's poor post 9-11 decisions

 

[Dschrute3]

Oh Gawd, this tired shite again? So lame and irrelevant. Movin on...

 

[Correll]

And that means what????

What that means is in a global conflict, we cannot count on our allies to support us

Kind of like Bush's "Coalition of the willing" in Iraq except that Trump can't count on UK support

Tell me how we needed them again? Hell during the Nobel peace prize guys Libya war Great Britain had to rent one of our AWACs to protect their ships. And the socialist were so military poor they could only afford to fire off three tomahawk missiles..


And give me a break we don't need any of them..


Gulf war one


Country Number of Personnel Comments / Major Events

United States 697,000[1] Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Battle of Khafji
Battle of 73 Easting
Battle of Al Busayyah
Battle of Phase Line Bullet
Battle of Medina Ridge
Battle of Wadi Al-Batin
Battle of Norfolk

Saudi Arabia 60,000 – 100,000 Operation Desert Shield
Battle of Khafji
Operation Desert Storm

United Kingdom 53,462[2] Operation Granby

Egypt 20,000 Operation Desert Storm

France 18,000 Opération Daguet

Syria 14,500 Operation Desert Storm

Morocco 13,000 Security Personnel

Kuwait 9,900 Invasion of Kuwait
Operation Desert Storm

Oman 6,300 Operation Desert Storm

Pakistan 4,900 – 5,500 Backup team

Canada 4,600 Operation Friction

United Arab Emirates 4,300 Operation Desert Storm

Qatar 2,600 Battle of Khafji

Bangladesh 2,300[3] (Operation Moru-prantar) Security Personnel including 2 field Ambulance teams

Italy 1,900 Deployed 8 Panavia Tornado strike attack aircraft, Naval deployment

Australia 700 Australian contribution to the 1991 Gulf War

Netherlands 700 Naval deployment; Air Force deployments of Surface-to-Air Missiles to Turkey and Israel

Niger 600 Patroller group

Sweden 525[4] Field hospital

Argentina 500 Navy / Air Force

Senegal 500 Base Guards

Spain 500 on the field / 3,000 off the coast Engineers
Bahrain 400 Base Guards
Belgium 400 Base Engineers
Poland 319 Operation Simoom
Naval & medical deployment
South Korea 314 Medical & transportation support
Norway 280 Naval vessel & Field hospital + intelligence information
Czechoslovakia 200 Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Czechoslovakia in the Gulf War
Greece 200 Pilots
Denmark 100 HDMS Olfert Fischer (Niels Juel Class Korvet)
New Zealand 100 2 C-130 Herculestransporter aircraft[5]
Hungary 50

What it means is ....when we want boots on the ground, those boots will be made in the USA

The Great Obama was successful in getting our allies to bear more of the burden in Egypt, Libya and Syria as well as an increased presence with Afghanistan

It mans fewer US lives lost

More American lives were lost in Afghanistan under Barack Obama then were lost there under George W. Bush and HE had to invade a country! The Great Obama wasn't so great when it came to military tactics.

That is true

After taking most of Afghanistan in 2002, Bush abandoned the war on terror to pursue his ill-advised invasion of Iraq
By the time the Great Obama took office in 2009, the Taliban had retaken much of Afghanistan and the shadow government was crumbling

We are still paying a price for Bush's poor post 9-11 decisions

YOu keep saying that, but you never offer any support for your claim.


Are you consciously working on the Constant Repetition as a form of Propaganda or is it just a natural outcome from your natural desire to avoid defending your position(s)?

 

[rightwinger]

What that means is in a global conflict, we cannot count on our allies to support us

Kind of like Bush's "Coalition of the willing" in Iraq except that Trump can't count on UK support

Tell me how we needed them again? Hell during the Nobel peace prize guys Libya war Great Britain had to rent one of our AWACs to protect their ships. And the socialist were so military poor they could only afford to fire off three tomahawk missiles..


And give me a break we don't need any of them..


Gulf war one


Country Number of Personnel Comments / Major Events

United States 697,000[1] Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Battle of Khafji
Battle of 73 Easting
Battle of Al Busayyah
Battle of Phase Line Bullet
Battle of Medina Ridge
Battle of Wadi Al-Batin
Battle of Norfolk

Saudi Arabia 60,000 – 100,000 Operation Desert Shield
Battle of Khafji
Operation Desert Storm

United Kingdom 53,462[2] Operation Granby

Egypt 20,000 Operation Desert Storm

France 18,000 Opération Daguet

Syria 14,500 Operation Desert Storm

Morocco 13,000 Security Personnel

Kuwait 9,900 Invasion of Kuwait
Operation Desert Storm

Oman 6,300 Operation Desert Storm

Pakistan 4,900 – 5,500 Backup team

Canada 4,600 Operation Friction

United Arab Emirates 4,300 Operation Desert Storm

Qatar 2,600 Battle of Khafji

Bangladesh 2,300[3] (Operation Moru-prantar) Security Personnel including 2 field Ambulance teams

Italy 1,900 Deployed 8 Panavia Tornado strike attack aircraft, Naval deployment

Australia 700 Australian contribution to the 1991 Gulf War

Netherlands 700 Naval deployment; Air Force deployments of Surface-to-Air Missiles to Turkey and Israel

Niger 600 Patroller group

Sweden 525[4] Field hospital

Argentina 500 Navy / Air Force

Senegal 500 Base Guards

Spain 500 on the field / 3,000 off the coast Engineers
Bahrain 400 Base Guards
Belgium 400 Base Engineers
Poland 319 Operation Simoom
Naval & medical deployment
South Korea 314 Medical & transportation support
Norway 280 Naval vessel & Field hospital + intelligence information
Czechoslovakia 200 Operation Desert Shield
Operation Desert Storm
Czechoslovakia in the Gulf War
Greece 200 Pilots
Denmark 100 HDMS Olfert Fischer (Niels Juel Class Korvet)
New Zealand 100 2 C-130 Herculestransporter aircraft[5]
Hungary 50

What it means is ....when we want boots on the ground, those boots will be made in the USA

The Great Obama was successful in getting our allies to bear more of the burden in Egypt, Libya and Syria as well as an increased presence with Afghanistan

It mans fewer US lives lost

More American lives were lost in Afghanistan under Barack Obama then were lost there under George W. Bush and HE had to invade a country! The Great Obama wasn't so great when it came to military tactics.

That is true

After taking most of Afghanistan in 2002, Bush abandoned the war on terror to pursue his ill-advised invasion of Iraq
By the time the Great Obama took office in 2009, the Taliban had retaken much of Afghanistan and the shadow government was crumbling

We are still paying a price for Bush's poor post 9-11 decisions

YOu keep saying that, but you never offer any support for your claim.


Are you consciously working on the Constant Repetition as a form of Propaganda or is it just a natural outcome from your natural desire to avoid defending your position(s)?

Sorry
I'm not going to rehash history for you

 

[Faun]

The truth is...after the Obama Stimulus cratered so badly and both Larry Summers and Christina Romer jumped ship and ran back to the safety of their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley...Obama didn't seem to even try to improve the economy. People can't tell you who his chief economic advisors were following that point in his Presidency because they didn't do anything with the economy past that point. It was like they'd gotten burned playing with something hot and didn't want to risk picking it up again!

What do you consider to be a good metric to measure a healthy and improving economy?

This will be funny to watch you avoid answering because you know it will only invalidate your drivel.

One huge indicator of a healthy and improving economy is a move by the Fed to increase interest rates! They've done so three times since Trump was elected. They did so once from the time Obama was elected until Trump was elected. That's once in eight years compared to three times in one.

The more I converse with you, RDD...the more I come to the conclusion that you know very little about economics. I'm still waiting to hear from either you or Faun (or anyone else for that matter!) about which Obama policy it was that's created this healthy economy under Trump! Any idea when that might be forthcoming?

I don’t know why you’re waiting to hear from me when we’ve already had that discussion several times and it always goes the same way.... I list policies which helped the economy and lie and deny.

It always DOES go the same way! You list the stock market increasing. You talk about so many months of positive job creation. But when it comes to the Obama Administration policies that made the economy grow...you're not so forthcoming. This really isn't an advanced discussion of economics, Faun! It should be quite simple for you to point to the overriding Obama economic strategy that he used to stimulate the economy. With Trump that strategy is basic...cut taxes on businesses...cut burdensome regulations on businesses...allow Americans to keep more of the money they earn. That's it. That's what they believe will stimulate the economy and create jobs. So what was Barack Obama's overriding economic strategy? Obamacare? The ACA hindered the recovery! Proposing Cap & Trade? That would have imposed higher energy costs on American businesses! Passing a record number of regulations on businesses?

Stop lying, ya lying con tool. I listed policies.

 

[westwall]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

Good. You should leave and go to those countries that you think are better.

 

[Faun]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

Good. You should leave and go to those countries that you think are better.

Where did I say they were better? Perhaps you could benefit from taking some remedial courses in reading comprehension?

 

[Barton]

world respect?? LOL Yall thin the world respected the US before Trump? LOL They enjoyed taking our money and spitting in our faces, that's for sure.

Fuck em.

 

[westwall]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

Good. You should leave and go to those countries that you think are better.

Where did I say they were better? Perhaps you could benefit from taking some remedial courses in reading comprehension?

If respect for the US has dropped, then respect for some other country has risen. That's the premise of the OP. Forgive me if you're not swift enough to figure it out.

 

[Barton]

Bet every country on the planet will still respect one of our aircraft carriers rolling up on them.

 

[Faun]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

Good. You should leave and go to those countries that you think are better.

Where did I say they were better? Perhaps you could benefit from taking some remedial courses in reading comprehension?

If respect for the US has dropped, then respect for some other country has risen. That's the premise of the OP. Forgive me if you're not swift enough to figure it out.

It’s not a zero sum equation. Seriously, there is something wrong with you. Seems to extend beyond just reading comprehension. Maybe those remedial classes won’t be enough?

 

[rightwinger]

Bet every country on the planet will still respect one of our aircraft carriers rolling up on them.

What an idiotic response

 

[Yarddog]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

The world, shouldnt base it's opinion of a country based on the election of one man. Obviously it is an over -reaction, thats all, especially when you consider that so much of the dirt on Trump is just manufactured.

 

[Faun]

Looks like making America great is not working as the world rejects us

World Respect for U.S. Drops Sharply Under Trump: Poll

America’s global image has dropped to an all-time low the first year of the Trump administration, falling below where it stood during the presidencies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush, according to a new Gallup poll.

The perception of U.S. leadership abroad since President Donald Trump took office has fallen 18 percentage points from the median 48 percent approval rating it held when Obama left office.

Its too bad the world is so easily influenced. What does that say about them? you cant always trust the polls either. There is usually a motivation behind them.

Or..... maybe the world is right and you’re wrong.

The world, shouldnt base it's opinion of a country based on the election of one man. Obviously it is an over -reaction, thats all, especially when you consider that so much of the dirt on Trump is just manufactured.

Who said it’s just based on his election?

 

[Oldstyle]

Im ok with it.
hat reasons would they have for thinking that? Policy? Thinking of us? Cutting off funding to other people? Calling peoples bullshit out?

For those who seem unaware, since WWII the US president has been seen as the leader of the free world. No longer. Not since Trump.

Lord of the Flies...Trump = Jack
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At least Trump is making the effort to lead...Barry's mantra was "leading from behind"! I mean seriously...that ISN'T leadership...it's an abdication of leadership!

 

[Oldstyle]

The truth is...after the Obama Stimulus cratered so badly and both Larry Summers and Christina Romer jumped ship and ran back to the safety of their tenured jobs at Harvard and Berkeley...Obama didn't seem to even try to improve the economy. People can't tell you who his chief economic advisors were following that point in his Presidency because they didn't do anything with the economy past that point. It was like they'd gotten burned playing with something hot and didn't want to risk picking it up again!

What do you consider to be a good metric to measure a healthy and improving economy?

This will be funny to watch you avoid answering because you know it will only invalidate your drivel.

One huge indicator of a healthy and improving economy is a move by the Fed to increase interest rates! They've done so three times since Trump was elected. They did so once from the time Obama was elected until Trump was elected. That's once in eight years compared to three times in one.

The more I converse with you, RDD...the more I come to the conclusion that you know very little about economics. I'm still waiting to hear from either you or Faun (or anyone else for that matter!) about which Obama policy it was that's created this healthy economy under Trump! Any idea when that might be forthcoming?

I don’t know why you’re waiting to hear from me when we’ve already had that discussion several times and it always goes the same way.... I list policies which helped the economy and lie and deny.

It always DOES go the same way! You list the stock market increasing. You talk about so many months of positive job creation. But when it comes to the Obama Administration policies that made the economy grow...you're not so forthcoming. This really isn't an advanced discussion of economics, Faun! It should be quite simple for you to point to the overriding Obama economic strategy that he used to stimulate the economy. With Trump that strategy is basic...cut taxes on businesses...cut burdensome regulations on businesses...allow Americans to keep more of the money they earn. That's it. That's what they believe will stimulate the economy and create jobs. So what was Barack Obama's overriding economic strategy? Obamacare? The ACA hindered the recovery! Proposing Cap & Trade? That would have imposed higher energy costs on American businesses! Passing a record number of regulations on businesses?

Stop lying, ya lying con tool. I listed policies.

No, actually you haven't, Faun! Which is perfectly understandable since it's impossible to list something that doesn't exist!