Working class favor GOP by 58%

[uscitizen]

Is this 58% of the remaining working class?

 

[Cuyo]

You're a fool....An ignorant, bigoted, elitist snob fool at that.

Oh, the irony. Its almost too much.

If only I had the wisdom you have, dude. If only I was smart enough to read all that radical right wing noise you spout here, and link up to webpages from the underground bunker, tinfoil hat, evil omnipresent government crowd.

Give us one now, eh? For old times sake? Link us up to the vast conspiracy about global warming, or a good ol' Hitler was a socialist blog.

 

[Cuyo]

Why would the working class support the Republican Party? To do so would be to vote against their own interests.

Just can't drop that overbearing, nanny state elitist we-know-what's-good-for-you-better-than-you-know-what's-good-for-you attitude, huh?

And y'all wonder why you're going to get your asses kicked three weeks from now?

Frankly, I can't wait. I so hope Republicans take away so many seats that they'll be in charge. I'm more than eager to see how they can actually handle the tough stuff. We all know the noobs are very good at platitudinal visions of their potential power, but their effectiveness based on actual capabilities is yet to be determined.

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. You poor soul. Don't you understand how it works?

Of course they're going to fall on their face. But it will be Barack's fault.

You see, when the WH and Congress are split among parties, anything good that happens is because of the GOP, and anything bad that happens, is because of the Dems. When the GOP has both, anything bad that happens is because of the Dems before and after them.

That's why the Dot-com burst was Clinton's fault, but the balanced budget was because of the GOP congress. The economic expansion during the Reagan years was because of Reagan; The massive debt was because of the Dem congress. So why did we have a meltdown after 8 years of a Republican president while the GOP also had Congress for 6? Simple, because Clinton had signed a bill 9 years earlier, and the Democrats were elected after Bush left office. Anything good that's happened since then has been in spite of the Democrats, and thank god the GOP was able to stop a lot of the Democratic radical agenda, otherwise we'd be much worse off.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad thing that ever happened in our entire history that can be attributed to Republicans.

How bout you Dude? Meister? CG? Zander? Is there anything that's ever happened that wasn't due to big gubbament? Anything ever that the gubbament should have stepped in to prevent, bud didn't? Ever?

 

[Oddball]

You're a fool....An ignorant, bigoted, elitist snob fool at that.

Oh, the irony. Its almost too much.

If only I had the wisdom you have, dude. If only I was smart enough to read all that radical right wing noise you spout here, and link up to webpages from the underground bunker, tinfoil hat, evil omnipresent government crowd.

Give us one now, eh? For old times sake? Link us up to the vast conspiracy about global warming, or a good ol' Hitler was a socialist blog.

You have no wisdom whatsoever.

You're a good old fashioned know-it-all elitist snob ideologue, who thinks he knows what's best for millions of people he doesn't even know....Not at all unlike the current crop of disconnected know-it-all elitist snobs currently running the nation into the ground.

All that takes is arrogance, not wisdom.

 

[Cuyo]

You're a fool....An ignorant, bigoted, elitist snob fool at that.

Oh, the irony. Its almost too much.

If only I had the wisdom you have, dude. If only I was smart enough to read all that radical right wing noise you spout here, and link up to webpages from the underground bunker, tinfoil hat, evil omnipresent government crowd.

Give us one now, eh? For old times sake? Link us up to the vast conspiracy about global warming, or a good ol' Hitler was a socialist blog.

You have no wisdom whatsoever.

You're a good old fashioned know-it-all elitist snob ideologue, who thinks he knows what's best for millions of people he doesn't even know....Not at all unlike the current crop of disconnected know-it-all elitist snobs currently running the nation into the ground.

All that takes is arrogance, not wisdom.

C'mon, give us a conspiracy link. Please? Show me how Obama is actually a tree or some shit like that. Stop bogartin' all the wisdom.

 

[Dick Tuck]

You're a fool....An ignorant, bigoted, elitist snob fool at that.

Oh, the irony. Its almost too much.

If only I had the wisdom you have, dude. If only I was smart enough to read all that radical right wing noise you spout here, and link up to webpages from the underground bunker, tinfoil hat, evil omnipresent government crowd.

Give us one now, eh? For old times sake? Link us up to the vast conspiracy about global warming, or a good ol' Hitler was a socialist blog.

The only reason that Hitler rose to power was because he was a supply sider.

 

[California Girl]

Just can't drop that overbearing, nanny state elitist we-know-what's-good-for-you-better-than-you-know-what's-good-for-you attitude, huh?

And y'all wonder why you're going to get your asses kicked three weeks from now?

Frankly, I can't wait. I so hope Republicans take away so many seats that they'll be in charge. I'm more than eager to see how they can actually handle the tough stuff. We all know the noobs are very good at platitudinal visions of their potential power, but their effectiveness based on actual capabilities is yet to be determined.

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. You poor soul. Don't you understand how it works?

Of course they're going to fall on their face. But it will be Barack's fault.

You see, when the WH and Congress are split among parties, anything good that happens is because of the GOP, and anything bad that happens, is because of the Dems. When the GOP has both, anything bad that happens is because of the Dems before and after them.

That's why the Dot-com burst was Clinton's fault, but the balanced budget was because of the GOP congress. The economic expansion during the Reagan years was because of Reagan; The massive debt was because of the Dem congress. So why did we have a meltdown after 8 years of a Republican president while the GOP also had Congress for 6? Simple, because Clinton had signed a bill 9 years earlier, and the Democrats were elected after Bush left office. Anything good that's happened since then has been in spite of the Democrats, and thank god the GOP was able to stop a lot of the Democratic radical agenda, otherwise we'd be much worse off.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad thing that ever happened in our entire history that can be attributed to Republicans.

How bout you Dude? Meister? CG? Zander? Is there anything that's ever happened that wasn't due to big gubbament? Anything ever that the gubbament should have stepped in to prevent, bud didn't? Ever?

If you had half a brain, you would understand that slamming the Dems for their constant stupidity does not equate to support for the GOP. In fact, if you bothered to pay attention to what I actually say, rather than interpreting my words to fit your opinion of me... you would see that I dislike ALL politicians. I have no more patience for the GOP than I do for the Dems..... but don't let facts get in the way of your whining.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Poll echoes 1994 swing toward GOP - Spokesman.com - Oct. 7, 2010

What exactly do they expect will happen in the immediate future which will benefit their "working class" lives?

I'm geniunely puzzled.

This would be the continually-shrinking working-class, right??

Let's HEAR IT for the 'Baggers anti-regulation cheering-squad!! Their efforts have enabled an INTERNATIONAL-hu$tle by the corporate-world!!!

Great job, 'Baggers!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Frankly, I can't wait. I so hope Republicans take away so many seats that they'll be in charge. I'm more than eager to see how they can actually handle the tough stuff. We all know the noobs are very good at platitudinal visions of their potential power, but their effectiveness based on actual capabilities is yet to be determined.

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. You poor soul. Don't you understand how it works?

Of course they're going to fall on their face. But it will be Barack's fault.

You see, when the WH and Congress are split among parties, anything good that happens is because of the GOP, and anything bad that happens, is because of the Dems. When the GOP has both, anything bad that happens is because of the Dems before and after them.

That's why the Dot-com burst was Clinton's fault, but the balanced budget was because of the GOP congress. The economic expansion during the Reagan years was because of Reagan; The massive debt was because of the Dem congress. So why did we have a meltdown after 8 years of a Republican president while the GOP also had Congress for 6? Simple, because Clinton had signed a bill 9 years earlier, and the Democrats were elected after Bush left office. Anything good that's happened since then has been in spite of the Democrats, and thank god the GOP was able to stop a lot of the Democratic radical agenda, otherwise we'd be much worse off.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad thing that ever happened in our entire history that can be attributed to Republicans.

How bout you Dude? Meister? CG? Zander? Is there anything that's ever happened that wasn't due to big gubbament? Anything ever that the gubbament should have stepped in to prevent, bud didn't? Ever?

If you had half a brain, you would understand that slamming the Dems for their constant stupidity.....

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....it's the Dems who're confused, huh??



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[editec]

47.37% of all incomes are less than $25,00 per year
75.39% of all incomes are less than $50,00 per year
88.46% of all incomes are less than $75,00 per year
94.76% of all incomes are less than $100,000 per year
06.24 % of all incomes are MORE than $100,000 per year.

Some of you insist that we live in a classless society.

That's likely because you don't understand the meaning of the word "class" in relation to a capitalist society.

We live in a CASTEless society, not a CLASSless society.

The only way to have a society without class is to have either anarchy or some kind of totalitarian communist nighmare society.

And since both of those are basically impossible to sustain, the theory that any society can be without class distinctions is rather silly.

A classless society is cherished myth, that I understand, but not something that actually exists in this society or any other known to man.

Class is NOT a bad words, folks. It is not a word that only commies use as apparently some of you think based on your objections to the use of the word.

Among other uses of this word, CLASS is a way of describing sets of people within a society whose conditions are similar economically.

The word is highly flexible such that it can be descriptive of all sorts of things.

Blue collar working class or gray collar working class.

Or the class of people whose incomes are derived mostly from investments.

The word itself is VALUES neutral until it is modified by other words that describve the class being described.

 

[midcan5]

So that's why you peddle all that Fabian socialist/progressive moonbat propaganda!

LOL - are time machines really real?

Often when I read history I sense nothing changes, for a progressive that is bewildering. Change comes so slow and it seems as the Great Depression, or the recent unraveling of republican policy in 2008, major failure is required to move even us a smidgen forward. Rereading bits of Hofstadter's "The Age of Reform" reminds me of this too strongly. One footnote outlines the tactics of deceit used by the populists, the book is "Prophets of Deceit," and outlines the current crop of political protest even as it reviews history one hundred years ago. I found a few comments on the topic and link them below. [ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P08ZEC/sr=1-1-spell/qid=1286622777/ref=sr_1_1_oe_1?ie=UTF8[/ame]


I found a few comments on the topic and link them below.


'Asymmetrical Policy Warfare and the Prophets of Deceit' by Tom Schaller

"1. It is almost always more difficult to get somebody to support a candidate or policy proposal idea than oppose it, because supporting usually requires agreeing with all or nearly all of who/what they are, whereas the threshold for opposition is lower. In short, it's easier to disqualify than qualify. A corollary to this is that the larger and/or more complex a policy is, the greater the disqualify-qualify asymmetry tends to be.

2. Because it is not always clear which particular objection(s) will move any given voter toward disqualifying an idea, the best approach is a shotgun one: raise every possible objection imaginable in order to maximize the number of people who can find at least one argument as the key, dispositive reason for their opposition.

3. Because voters are (often rationally) low-information consumers of policy, the use of exaggeration, misrepresentation and outright fabrication is often met with little to no impunity. And so it makes sense to not only raise legitimate, provable objections but also false, misleading ones as well. Compounding this effect is the fact that when those trying to speak truthfully inevitably get frustrated by all the deception and misinformation, it creates the unfortunate impression that the defenders are being defensive for other reasons, as Matt Yglesias argues in response to Barney Frank's exchange with some woman complaining that Obama is a Nazi." FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Asymmetrical Policy Warfare and the Prophets of Deceit

and

"The recent surge of right-wing fantasy into American public discourse should not be surprising. Claims that Obama is a foreigner, that health-care reform means bureaucratic death squads, that “the country we once knew is being destroyed,” as anguished people at town halls have put it – only on the most superficial level are these beliefs the product of ignorance, irrationality, and intractable boneheadedness." Views: Prophets of Deceit - Inside Higher Ed

and

Barney Frank's comments fit most rightwing posters on USMB. What do you say to a kitchen table.

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[Cuyo]

Frankly, I can't wait. I so hope Republicans take away so many seats that they'll be in charge. I'm more than eager to see how they can actually handle the tough stuff. We all know the noobs are very good at platitudinal visions of their potential power, but their effectiveness based on actual capabilities is yet to be determined.

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. You poor soul. Don't you understand how it works?

Of course they're going to fall on their face. But it will be Barack's fault.

You see, when the WH and Congress are split among parties, anything good that happens is because of the GOP, and anything bad that happens, is because of the Dems. When the GOP has both, anything bad that happens is because of the Dems before and after them.

That's why the Dot-com burst was Clinton's fault, but the balanced budget was because of the GOP congress. The economic expansion during the Reagan years was because of Reagan; The massive debt was because of the Dem congress. So why did we have a meltdown after 8 years of a Republican president while the GOP also had Congress for 6? Simple, because Clinton had signed a bill 9 years earlier, and the Democrats were elected after Bush left office. Anything good that's happened since then has been in spite of the Democrats, and thank god the GOP was able to stop a lot of the Democratic radical agenda, otherwise we'd be much worse off.

In fact, I can't think of a single bad thing that ever happened in our entire history that can be attributed to Republicans.

How bout you Dude? Meister? CG? Zander? Is there anything that's ever happened that wasn't due to big gubbament? Anything ever that the gubbament should have stepped in to prevent, bud didn't? Ever?

If you had half a brain, you would understand that slamming the Dems for their constant stupidity does not equate to support for the GOP. In fact, if you bothered to pay attention to what I actually say, rather than interpreting my words to fit your opinion of me... you would see that I dislike ALL politicians. I have no more patience for the GOP than I do for the Dems..... but don't let facts get in the way of your whining.

That's not productive. Surely you must have some idea on how you would like politicians to behave. Just saying you hate them all is a cop-out. Can you name a few who you like, or at least dislike less than most others?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oddone truly has no idea when he uses those terms above; it is just part of his persona.

Gillian Anderson described it best when discussing her role as a MD on X Files: something to the effect of her having no idea what most of the big words mean, it just went with the script.

Oddone is following a script, and he has no idea what he is saying.

 

[Charles_Main]

Poll echoes 1994 swing toward GOP - Spokesman.com - Oct. 7, 2010

What exactly do they expect will happen in the immediate future which will benefit their "working class" lives?

I'm geniunely puzzled.

Oh perhaps Lower JOB KILLING taxes, Relax JOB KILLING regulations, and STOP SPENDING the country into ruin.

To name a few.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Taxes are not killing jobs, regulations are not killing jobs, and I agree that spending has to stop.

 

[Meister]

Taxes are not killing jobs, regulations are not killing jobs, and I agree that spending has to stop.

 

[Cuyo]

Poll echoes 1994 swing toward GOP - Spokesman.com - Oct. 7, 2010

What exactly do they expect will happen in the immediate future which will benefit their "working class" lives?

I'm geniunely puzzled.

Oh perhaps Lower JOB KILLING taxes, Relax JOB KILLING regulations, and STOP SPENDING the country into ruin.

To name a few.

Attaboy, stay on script. Nevermind the fact that the recession and deficit followed a massive trend of tax cuts and eliminating regulations.

 

[midcan5]

Oh perhaps Lower JOB KILLING taxes, Relax JOB KILLING regulations, and STOP SPENDING the country into ruin.

To name a few.

Attaboy, stay on script. Nevermind the fact that the recession and deficit followed a massive trend of tax cuts and eliminating regulations.

Righties are like Pavlov's dogs, say 'taxes' and they salivate. Thought is the farthest thing from the minds of the well trained.


"Are higher taxes and strong social "safety nets" antagonistic to a prosperous market economy? The evidence is now in...."

"Von Hayek was wrong. In strong and vibrant democracies, a generous social-welfare state is not a road to serfdom but rather to fairness, economic equality and international competitiveness." The Social Welfare State, beyond Ideology: Scientific American


"There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later. Almost all rich nations have higher general taxes than the U.S., and they are growing faster as well."

Tax cuts spur economic growth
The Idolatry of Ideology-Why Tax Cuts Hurt the Economy by Russ Beaton

"I’m fully aware that I risk excommunication from the Church of Economic Science when I argue exactly the opposite: Tax cuts actually hurt the economy. It isn’t just that they don’t help, or that they’re ineffective—THEY REALLY HURT!"

 

[JakeStarkey]

Taxes are not killing jobs, regulations are not killing jobs, and I agree that spending has to stop.

Nope, you are a fool for not recognizing the truth, that unregulated capitalism and or economic libertarianism leads to the economic slavery of the population.

 

[MaggieMae]

Just can't drop that overbearing, nanny state elitist we-know-what's-good-for-you-better-than-you-know-what's-good-for-you attitude, huh?

And y'all wonder why you're going to get your asses kicked three weeks from now?

Frankly, I can't wait. I so hope Republicans take away so many seats that they'll be in charge. I'm more than eager to see how they can actually handle the tough stuff. We all know the noobs are very good at platitudinal visions of their potential power, but their effectiveness based on actual capabilities is yet to be determined.

Oh, the irony is killin' me!

Perhaps the biggest irony of all is that you people should have learned a lesson or two. Obama was inexperienced and naive about a whole lot of things, but you're eager to throw a whole bunch of people into legislative positions (possibly even the Oval Office in 2012) who are even more clueless.