CDZ With the Failed Impeachmant, What Will the Oligarchs do Next?

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    What genuinely scared the American Oligarch families about Hitler was not that he was willing to kill millions of innocent people. The Duponts alone have dumped so much PFOAs into our air and ground water that the average American citizen carries three and a half times the safe limit of PFOAs in their blood today. Cardiovascular disease is killing more people than all other causes of death combined, and that is the leading harmful effect of having too much PFOA in your blood. And Hitler admired the American oligarchs and the British royals, he didnt hate them. Almost everything Hitler did was taken straight out of the American Progressive movement, from the Bellamy Salute, to the Swastika and his laws to implement eugenics and turn Jews into second class citizens.

    What scared the American Oligarchs about Hitler was that he was a populist. That is why they see Trump as akin to Hitler, both being populist political figures who broke the control of the Oligarchs of their respective countries. That scares the bejeezus out of families like the murderous Duponts.

    To control the American public and ensure that we never have a similar successful populist revolt in our country the Oligarchs took advice from Edward Bernays, a nephew of Sigmund Freud who borrowed his uncles psychology techniques to sell cigarettes to literally millions of American women. Tens of millions of American women now get lung cancer and die thanks to Mr Bernays, but that is not of concern for the Oligarchs. They needed to know how to keep an American leader from emerging who might cost them their profits and power.

    Edward Bernays - Wikipedia
    Bernays argued that the covert use of third parties was morally legitimate because those parties were morally autonomous actors.[60]

    If you can influence the leaders, either with or without their conscious cooperation, you automatically influence the group which they sway", he said. In order to promote sales of bacon, for example, he conducted research and found that the American public ate very light breakfast of coffee, maybe a roll and orange juice. He went to his physician and found that a heavy breakfast was sounder from the standpoint of health than a light breakfast because the body loses energy during the night and needs it during the day. He asked the physician if he would be willing, at no cost, to write to 5,000 physicians and ask them whether their judgment was the same as his—confirming his judgment. About 4,500 answered back, all concurring that a more significant breakfast was better for the health of the American people than a light breakfast. He arranged for this finding to be published in newspapers throughout the country with headlines like '4,500 physicians urge bigger breakfast' while other articles stated that bacon and eggs should be a central part of breakfast and, as a result of these actions, the sale of bacon went up.[61]...

    Businesses found these covert methods irresistible. Strother Walker and Paul Sklar wrote in Business Finds Its Voice (1938) that Bernays had offered a solution to popular skepticism of business which arose in the depression: better "to implant an idea in a group leader's mind and let him spread it than to write up an idea and send it to the papers as a release, in the old-fashioned way...".[63]

    Bernays pioneered the public relations industry's use of psychology and other social sciences to design its public persuasion campaigns: "If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits."[64] He later called this scientific technique of opinion-molding the engineering of consent.[65]

    Bernays explained in his 1947 essay "The Engineering of Consent":

    This phrase quite simply means the use of an engineering approach—that is, action based only on thorough knowledge of the situation and on the application of scientific principles and tried practices to the task of getting people to support ideas and programs.

    Bernays expanded on Walter Lippmann's concept of stereotype, arguing that predictable elements could be manipulated for mass effects:

    But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given [the common man] a rubber stamp, a rubber stamp inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of tabloids and the profundities of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamp is the twin of millions of others, so that when these millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. […]

    The amazing readiness with which large masses accept this process is probably accounted for by the fact that no attempt is made to convince them that black is white. Instead, their preconceived hazy ideas that a certain gray is almost black or almost white are brought into sharper focus. Their prejudices, notions, and convictions are used as a starting point, with the result that they are drawn by a thread into passionate adherence to a given mental picture.[66]

    Not only psychology but sociology played an important role for the public relations counsel, according to Bernays. The individual is "a cell organized into the social unit. Touch a nerve at a sensitive spot and you get an automatic response from certain specific members of the organism." [67]
    Philosophy

    Bernays' vision was of a utopian society in which individuals' dangerous libidinal energies, the psychic and emotional energy associated with instinctual biological drives that Bernays viewed as inherently dangerous, could be harnessed and channeled by a corporate elite for economic benefit. Through the use of mass production, big business could fulfill the cravings of what Bernays saw as the inherently irrational and desire-driven masses, simultaneously securing the niche of a mass-production economy (even in peacetime), as well as sating what he considered to be dangerous animal urges that threatened to tear society apart if left unquelled.

    Bernays touted the idea that the "masses" are driven by factors outside their conscious understanding, and therefore that their minds can and should be manipulated by the capable few. "Intelligent men must realize that propaganda is the modern instrument by which they can fight for productive ends and help to bring order out of chaos."....

    Propaganda was portrayed as the only alternative to chaos.[70]

    One way Bernays reconciled manipulation with liberalism was his claim that the human masses would inevitably succumb to manipulation—and therefore the good propagandists could compete with the evil, without incurring any marginal moral cost.[71] In his view, "the minority which uses this power is increasingly intelligent, and works more and more on behalf of ideas that are socially constructive."[72]

    Unlike some other early public relations practitioners, Bernays advocated centralization and planning. Marvin Olasky calls his 1945 book Take Your Place at the Peace Table "a clear appeal for a form of mild corporate socialism." [73].....

    In the 1930s, his critics became more harsh. As the leading figure in public relations and a notorious advocate of "propaganda", Bernays was compared to European fascists such as Joseph Goebbels and Adolf Hitler.[78] (Bernays himself wrote in his 1965 autobiography that Goebbels read and used his books.)[79]....

    At the same time, Bernays was praised for his apparent success, wisdom, foresight, and influence as an originator of public relations.[82]​

    While opinions ranged negative to positive, there was widespread agreement that propaganda had a powerful effect on the public mind.[83] According to John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton, in a published review of Larry Tye's biography of Bernays:[84]

    It is impossible to fundamentally grasp the social, political, economic and cultural developments of the past 100 years without some understanding of Bernays and his professional heirs in the public relations industry. PR is a 20th-century phenomenon, and Bernays—widely eulogized as the "father of public relations" at the time of his death in 1995—played a major role in defining the industry's philosophy and methods.​

    To achieve a system of spreading misinformation and misdirection, the Oligarchs promoted Consumerism as a way of helping Americans feel satisfied as their taxes sky rocketed, their wages became stagnant and their culture reshaped into an alien chaos right before their eyes. With control of the corporate owned media and complete domination of the political Establishment of both major parties, the Oligarchs have managed to avert the normal 40 year political cycle America once had, and which FDR benefited from himself, and formed a permanent Tammany Hall system at the Federal government level.

    When Reagan won election typically this would have caused a political reformation in the US, but not now. The levers of power, constant PR campaigns against Reagan and other reformers kept the political patronage system churning out goodies for the compliant well after Reagan, and in fact the Establishment bought the Presidential debates from the League of Women Voters under Bush 41 and deliberately have excluded third parties ever since.

    But now Trump has broken their system by demonstrating ways of getting his message through the Corporate Stonewall of Owned Media, unseating the Party Establishment control, and restoring policy that targets benefiting all Americans instead of just corporations and their political partners.

    So what will the Oligarchs like the Duponts do with Trump? It looks very much like eh will win re-election and permanently change our political system. How do they regain control in the new political paradigm? What do they do with Trump?

    Attempts to force Google, Facebook, Utube (owned by Google now) and Twitter to exclude uncontrolled voices is one approach, but I think it will fail. 'Epstein didnt kill himself' is the meme such rebels go by and they reject establishment voices as soon as they realize what they are. 'Go Woke, Go Broke' is the running slogan now, and one once successful media franchise after another has been destroyed by Oligarch minions trying to herd us all back onto their Consumerism plantations. They may just pick up the sledge hammer of forced compliance, one can only guess now that Bernays tricks no longer work so well.

    And what about Trump himself? He will be cursed, branded and hounded for the rest of his life and his family too, much as the Woke Media continues to hound other symbols of anti-Wokeness rebellion.

    Trumps wealth and private companies will be targeted, as well as his good name. He cannot be allowed to prosper and enjoy his wins. He must die as a broken man, for the Oligarchs to get their pound of flesh.

    The American people should never allow that to happen to Trump, or else we are as loathsome and low as Edward Bernays said we are.

    The GIF below illustrates how many people die today from cardiovascular disease and cancer, side effects of having too many PFOAs in your body.


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    Oligarchs just are not very good oligarchs if they let the Little People or individual stand against opposing them unpunished.
     
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    Well, they will have to adjust, methinks, or perish.
     
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    Wow, a right winger admitting Hitler and Trump are the same... Saints alive, never thought I'd see it.
     
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    Soros will order his mindless minions to martyr theirselves.
     
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    I believe you have failed to comprehend what was actually said and what wasn't.
     
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    Which is really the goal of any political structure......





    No argument we're a corporate oligarchy w/illusion of choice

    Trump admits he' politically closer to Reagan ,and has followed suit in policy now since he entered office

    So i'd have to say this assumption is not only false ,given his actions, it's outright propaganda the author warns us is targeting Americans

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    Gawd almighty... what a rant.

    I'd go along with the Trump-Hitler analogy, but the OP is already lumbering through the underbrush denying the oligarchs were largely fine with either "populist". That isn't actually surprising, since both Trump and Hitler are / were the oligarchs' best friends.

    Ah yes, then there's Bernays, who single-handedly created propaganda on earth, including the creation of the tools to induce women to smoke, resulting in tens of millions of deaths by cancer in the U.S. alone. Finally, we're being treated to a fake chart ("source": "joyreactor.cc") along with the allegation that all deaths by cardiovascular disease and cancer are attributable to FPOAs.

    All the while, whether or not FPOAs have effects that "result in an increase in cardiovascular disease is unknown."

    What all that has to do with the allegedly "Failed Impeachment" is anyone's guess.

    Weird.
     
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    There is no point in explaining complex thought to simplistic partisan minds.
     
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    So you would say that was true of Ghenghis Khan? Was he striving for a Utopia? Do you think he was trying to manipulate the lizard brains of his subjects to constrain them from chaos?

    roflmao
    Reagan was also a populist, famous for his assertion that 'A rising tide lifts all ships.' That includes corporations as well as average Americans.

    You no more understand Reagan than you understand Trump.
     

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