Wisconsin Tea Party Candidate Compares Public Schools To Nazi Regime

[Uncensored2008]

The Autobahn does not make Hitler a socialist.

No, but controlling the means of production did...

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Autobahn does not make Hitler a socialist.

No, but controlling the means of production did...

By your definition then, Uncensored, Churchill was a socialist.

You can't think straight, can you?

 

[Too Tall]

Then you have to remember that the whole batch of these crazies wrote Prairie Fire and dedicated it to Sirhan Sirhan (oh for those little Jodie Evans/Cindy Sheehan wannabes Ayers and his wife dedicated their manifesto to the assassin of Bobby Kennedy).


Now why does this count you ask as little dimicrats? These are all the people who surrounded and influenced the President.

That's pretty bad if that's true. They all said bad stuff, and bad words are bad idk and sense he was involved with the president that's pretty bad.

Now, I missed where you were disgusted that GWB had a business relationship with Bin Laden. You know the guy who killed thousands of Americans? Remember that guy?

The Bin Laden that was in the oil business was not named Osama.

 

[Intense]

Nazi's = Centralized control over every aspect of Life, Through Government.
Statist Progressive = Centralized control over every aspect of life, through Government.

Same End. Totalitarian State, built on mandate and punishment.

In that sense All Totalitarian Ideologies, share that trait. Different paths, different brands, leading to the same end, as opposed to the concept of Individual Liberty and choice.

Government Dependency V.S. Personal Responsibility.

In your Socialist Utopia, who is to define injustice and persecution? Where exactly is that Someone buried? In your Socialist Utopia, the reward of a faithful witness is an unmarked grave. Do you even care where you lead the blind?

Keep on keeping on multiplying that debt. That is the means to your end, right?

You are either lying or you are ignorant. Why don't you actually study up on the Nazi Party and how they took over Germany and then compare those tactics to your beloved Tea Party. Remember to remove those "Conservative Colored" glasses before you look at the facts.

You divert and you spin, still, there is no getting around the need for some to control others by any means they can get away with. The end is still the same, thought, word, action, inaction, by the arbitrary consent of the controlling authority. Progressive Centralized Control over Every Aspect of Our Lives, 24/7, cradle to grave.

Show me where the Tea Party advocates that. Show me where Socialism does not. Soft Tyranny, Hard Tyranny lead to the same end, given time. WTFU and grow a pair. Take control over your own life.

The Tea Party I know is an Advocate of Federalism. Original Intent, with the intelligence to improve quality of life without sacrificing Principle, value, integrity, for the Convenience of the Individual or the State.

The Governments Primary is to Establish Justice and serve it, not bend reality to serve it's own indulgences at the expense of it. You can choose to resolve problems or compound them. We each take responsibility for what we throw out there.

 

[Jroc]

Nazi's = Centralized control over every aspect of Life, Through Government.
Statist Progressive = Centralized control over every aspect of life, through Government.

Same End. Totalitarian State, built on mandate and punishment.

In that sense All Totalitarian Ideologies, share that trait. Different paths, different brands, leading to the same end, as opposed to the concept of Individual Liberty and choice.

Government Dependency V.S. Personal Responsibility.

In your Socialist Utopia, who is to define injustice and persecution? Where exactly is that Someone buried? In your Socialist Utopia, the reward of a faithful witness is an unmarked grave. Do you even care where you lead the blind?

Keep on keeping on multiplying that debt. That is the means to your end, right?

You are either lying or you are ignorant. Why don't you actually study up on the Nazi Party and how they took over Germany and then compare those tactics to your beloved Tea Party. Remember to remove those "Conservative Colored" glasses before you look at the facts.

You divert and you spin, still, there is no getting around the need for some to control others by any means they can get away with. The end is still the same, thought, word, action, inaction, by the arbitrary consent of the controlling authority. Progressive Centralized Control over Every Aspect of Our Lives, 24/7, cradle to grave.

Show me where the Tea Party advocates that. Show me where Socialism does not. Soft Tyranny, Hard Tyranny lead to the same end, given time. WTFU and grow a pair. Take control over your own life.

The Tea Party I know is an Advocate of Federalism. Original Intent, with the intelligence to improve quality of life without sacrificing Principle, value, integrity, for the Convenience of the Individual or the State.

The Governments Primary is to Establish Justice and serve it, not bend reality to serve it's own indulgences at the expense of it. You can choose to resolve problems or compound them. We each take responsibility for what we throw out there.

Yep.. Jake is clueless as usual. The Tea party stands for smaller government with less control over the lives of individual Americans, which is totally the opposite of the big totalitarian governments of the Communist and National Socialist its as simple as that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just like the fascists in Italy and Germany said they were for good things, many of them weren't.

In the Tea Party ranks are political and cultural fascists, many are racists, many are sexists, so hiding behind the title means nothing, buckos.

Denounce all of that and refuse to associate with such as that (racism, sexism, fascism, etc.), then you might have some creditability. You don't know with 82% of the country. 17 others agreeing with you Jroc does not make you even a worthy minority.

 

[logical4u]

They're kids. So they sing songs about the President. They're not voters, you know.

What other President has had a song sung in an elementary school about him, the President? I cannot think of one, not about George Washington, not about Abe Lincoln, not about a Roosevelt, not one about "Ike" (though the military probably had some doozies). But maybe I am mistaken, please list all those songs about individual Presidents that are sung in elementary schools.

No. Your premise is stupid.

First of all, I'm absolutely positive that in one of the 14,000 school districts in the United States in the past hundred years, kids have sung songs about the President. I have no evidence, I have sheer odds.

Second of all, in these cases it would have been a local or at most state initiative to have children sing songs about the President. The President cannot command schools to have students sing songs about the President.

Third of all, WHO CARES?!?

Just pointing out how the left ignores indoctrination of their beliefs, and tries to silence anyone else from stating theirs.

Let me re-phrase the question: has the liberal controlled media ran a nation-wide news story about an elementary school singing a song about a President (other than this one) mmm, mmm, mmm?

 

[logical4u]

I love this. This is the part I really really love. We called ourselseves the Socialist German Workers Party, BUT GOT FORBID we were not socialist we were really SUPER MOTHER FUCKING CONSERVATIVE TEA PARTIERS!!!!!! Even though tea partiers were not named at the time. It gets funnier by the minute

Funny thing about names, tinyprancer. They don't always fit the actions of the people.

The Nazis were tolitarian, the Nazis socialized no industry, the Nazis and Big Business got along fabulously well. Why? Because the Nazis killed the members of their own left wing.

The Tea Partiers are afflicted with the same problem. Why? They are nothing like the Patriots of the Revolution, who would have driven you guys into the camps of the British as Loyalists. Paul Revere riding to warn the British? Oh, vey.

You are either mentally feeble, simply ignorant, or malignantly motivated. What you are not is accurate.

Please provide some evidence where anyone in the TEA party has done violence to the left wing (other than self defense).

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thank you for not denying that the Nazis killed their socialist left wing. That's a start. Right now the language of the TeaBots is loud and violent, but the violence may weel come. Shoot, listen the blowhards on this Board. The reason the Tea Party so far has not attacked anyone is that the members know they will get their asses kicked. Same with the lefties in America.

 

[bripat9643]

You are either lying or you are ignorant. Why don't you actually study up on the Nazi Party and how they took over Germany and then compare those tactics to your beloved Tea Party. Remember to remove those "Conservative Colored" glasses before you look at the facts.

There is no comparison, dipstick. However, the similarities between Nazi tactics and the tactics of the DimoRAT party are astounding and chilling.

 

[bripat9643]

So, pointing out how screwed up it is for a political candidate to compare the school system to Nazi Germany is desperation? Sounds more like you don't like it when ignorant conservatives are called out for their hateful rhetoric. Or maybe you support Nazis? I don't know. Please help me understand your thinking.

The government schools are instruments for indoctriting naive young people with the memes that keep the bureacrats and the moochers in control. They are tools of fascism. comparing them with Nazy Germany is just common sense.

 

[bripat9643]

Never mind the ridiculousness of the rest of your post and the fact that you're way off topic, but if you want to talk about debt, you should have a talk with Bush 2. He left 10 trillion of our debt for Obama.

If you recall, Joseph Goebbles is the one who said that if you repeat the same lie often enough people will come to accept it as truth. I have noted that you are fond of telling lies over and over again, like the claim that Bush increased the national debt by $10 trillion.

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone who believes Hitler was a Socialist because the party was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party is more ignorant of history than they realize.

Anyone who believes that's the only evidence that Hitler was a socialist is an imbecile.

 

[bripat9643]

When I read threads like this I despair for our country.

People actually think Wisconsin public schools are comparable to Nazi propaganda wards? This is very unsettling.

They are almost indistinguishable from Nazi propaganda wards. The only difference is that they aren't taught to hate the Jew. . . . . . . . er , wait a minute. They are taught that too.

 

[bripat9643]

Have you heard the Obama song sung in some elementary schools?

They're kids. So they sing songs about the President. They're not voters, you know.

Why would a teacher coach children to sing songs about the President? They never did that when I was a kid. Do you recall children singing songs about George Bush?

 

[bripat9643]

It's good that children are taught to sing praises of Dear Leader and are taught of the war with Eastasia.

You're too stupid to get the joke, eh jake the fake?

 

[Jroc]

Just like the fascists in Italy and Germany said they were for good things, many of them weren't.

In the Tea Party ranks are political and cultural fascists, many are racists, many are sexists, so hiding behind the title means nothing, buckos.

Denounce all of that and refuse to associate with such as that (racism, sexism, fascism, etc.), then you might have some creditability. You don't know with 82% of the country. 17 others agreeing with you Jroc does not make you even a worthy minority.

You know Jake I feel sorry for you, man you seem like a nice guy to me but you are totally whacked out and brain washed by the anti Tea party crowd. You have shown no evidence of any bigotry, any racism, anything of which you claim the Tea party is, yet you keep saying it.... Sad actually. Possibly pathological

 

[Contumacious]

You can always tell how much Teasacks and conservatives love the USA when they say such lovely things. ?

And they are correct:

Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.

–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)

 

[tinydancer]

The Autobahn does not make Hitler a socialist.

No, but controlling the means of production did...

Oh so bang on the money.

From the website that is set up in the name of Ludwig Von Mises is this amazing article by George Reisman called Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

Mises Daily: Friday, November 11, 2005 by George Reisman

From the article and I will provide a link:

The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government.

For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership:

it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.

The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

De facto government ownership of the means of production, as Mises termed it, was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State.

If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State.

But what specifically established de facto socialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936.

These were imposed in response to the inflation of the money supply carried out by the regime from the time of its coming to power in early 1933.

The Nazi regime inflated the money supply as the means of financing the vast increase in government spending required by its programs of public works, subsidies, and rearmament.

The price and wage controls were imposed in response to the rise in prices that began to result from the inflation.

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian - George Reisman - Mises Daily

EDIT TO ADD: the whole website from the Ludwig Von Mises Institute is just awesome.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You can always tell how much Teasacks and conservatives love the USA when they say such lovely things. ?

And they are correct:

Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.

Wack talk in and of itself. And, considering what drives C's needs, his talk can be dismissed.