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So the GOP position is...no state exchanges in red states, and therefore no red state citizens should be able to get subsidies for their health insurance
No, that's the Democrats' position. They wrote the law that way, and ignored and derided all GOP attempts to change it or get rid of it.
Link showing GOP tried to change the subsidy rules?
I am opposed to ObamaCare, but that does not change reality. And the reality is that ObamaCare is still here, despite its funeral being attended countless times by fools, and millions of people have enrolled, despite all the comedy surrounding the launch of the web site.Show the facts on the ground which prove the lie of obastardcare is working. Don't think so, just more libtarded hot air.The right wing "horror stories" used in ads have all been shown to be bogus.
The facts on the ground are that people in red states are going to be denied health insurance subsidies, which means they will be paying more for their health insurance than people in blue states. And that is a REAL horror story the GOP won't tell you.
The citizens of red states are also being denied the Medicare expansion.
Another horror for the GOP is that the federal web site has much improved and millions of people have been signing up.
ObamaCare is not sinking. Not even close.
RomneyCare had very similar bumps and difficulties in its early days, as any massive government expansion of power does. But five years later, a supermajority of the citizens (74 percent!) of Massachusetts stated they wanted to keep RomneyCare around, even though 60 percent felt it still needed fixes.
So it will be with ObamaCare.
Rumors of the death of ObamaCare are greatly exaggerated.
I am opposed to ObamaCare, but that does not change reality. And the reality is that ObamaCare is still here, despite its funeral being attended countless times by fools, and millions of people have enrolled, despite all the comedy surrounding the launch of the web site.Show the facts on the ground which prove the lie of obastardcare is working. Don't think so, just more libtarded hot air.The right wing "horror stories" used in ads have all been shown to be bogus.
The facts on the ground are that people in red states are going to be denied health insurance subsidies, which means they will be paying more for their health insurance than people in blue states. And that is a REAL horror story the GOP won't tell you.
The citizens of red states are also being denied the Medicare expansion.
Another horror for the GOP is that the federal web site has much improved and millions of people have been signing up.
ObamaCare is not sinking. Not even close.
RomneyCare had very similar bumps and difficulties in its early days, as any massive government expansion of power does. But five years later, a supermajority of the citizens (74 percent!) of Massachusetts stated they wanted to keep RomneyCare around, even though 60 percent felt it still needed fixes.
So it will be with ObamaCare.
Rumors of the death of ObamaCare are greatly exaggerated.
Based on the experiences behind its closest relative (RomneyCare), a realist will see that five years from now, ObamaCare will still be with us and the momentum of popularity will be working to its favor.
Tis better to accept reality and approach the problem from there rather than kick the shit out of a delusion and look more and more like an idiot.
I am opposed to ObamaCare, but that does not change reality. And the reality is that ObamaCare is still here, despite its funeral being attended countless times by fools, and millions of people have enrolled, despite all the comedy surrounding the launch of the web site.Show the facts on the ground which prove the lie of obastardcare is working. Don't think so, just more libtarded hot air.
Based on the experiences behind its closest relative (RomneyCare), a realist will see that five years from now, ObamaCare will still be with us and the momentum of popularity will be working to its favor.
Tis better to accept reality and approach the problem from there rather than kick the shit out of a delusion and look more and more like an idiot.
lol.
It is the law of the land and yet you tout that 5 million people out of 45 million people followed the law.
Asshole.
Halbig v Sibelius is a case that challenges this administration's cavalier attitude to the law. The law specifies that only people signing up on state exchanges are eligible for subsidies. HHS simply rewrote the law to include those who signed up on Healthcare.gov, the federal website. That is nowhere part of the law. Here is the incomparable staff of the Journal describing this affront to the rule of law. And 10 to 1 the first 3 lib posters will never read the article.
ObamaCare's Latest Legal Challenge - WSJ.com
The Affordable Care Actat least the version that passed in 2010instructed the states to establish insurance exchanges, and if they didn't the Health and Human Services Department was authorized to build federal exchanges. The law says that subsidies will be available only to people who enroll "through an Exchange established by the State." The question in Halbig is whether these taxpayer subsidies can be distributed through the federal exchanges, as the Administration insists.
Prior to passage, Democrats were divided over the structure of the exchanges, with liberals favoring a national clearinghouse and moderates state control. The federalists won and conditioned the subsidies on state-based exchanges.
This was no accident. The federal government cannot commandeer the sovereign states under the Constitution, so Democrats created an incentive for Governors to participate voluntarily. If they didn't cooperate by taking the quid of the exchanges, they would deny their constituents the quo of eligibility to claim billions of dollars worth of benefits. The other Democratic goal was to have the states share in the workload of implementation, instead of concentrating everything within HHS.
But also prior to passage, Democrats were convinced that the ObamaCare opposition would melt away as Americans learned to love the law. That did not happen. Some 34 states opted out, and two others couldn't meet all the HHS mandates by deadline. So the Administration faced a choice: HHS could either obey the law, deny subsidies to the two-thirds of the U.S. population living in states with federal exchanges and thus greatly diminish Mr. Obama's legacy project. Or it could improvise a workaroundwhich is what it did.
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In 2012, HHS and the Internal Revenue Service arrogated to themselves the power to rewrite the law and published a regulation simply decreeing that subsidies would be available through the federal exchanges too. The IRS devoted only a single paragraph to its deviation from the statute, even though the "established by a State" language appears nine times in the law's text. The rule claims that an exchange established on behalf of a state is a "federally established state-established exchange," as if HHS is the 51st state.
Careful spadework into ObamaCare's legislative history by Case Western Reserve law professor Jonathan Adler and Michael Cannon of the Cato Institute has demonstrated that this jackalope rule-making was contrary to Congress's intent. For example, the bill appropriated a mere $304 million for HHS to run exchanges. The actual cost turned out to be $3.3 billion as state after state dropped out.
Much more at the source.
So the GOP position is...no state exchanges in red states, and therefore no red state citizens should be able to get subsidies for their health insurance since they are forced to sign up for health insurance through the federal exchange because of their GOP legislatures.
This means people who live in red states will be paying more out of their pockets for health insurance than those who live in blue states.
Hmmm. I just can't see THAT backfiring on the GOP!
The right wing "horror stories" used in ads have all been shown to be bogus
So the GOP position is...no state exchanges in red states, and therefore no red state citizens should be able to get subsidies for their health insurance since they are forced to sign up for health insurance through the federal exchange because of their GOP legislatures.
This means people who live in red states will be paying more out of their pockets for health insurance than those who live in blue states.
Hmmm. I just can't see THAT backfiring on the GOP!
So the people in the red states who strongly oppose Obamacare will make their candidates pay for not implementing obamacare. Come again?
I am opposed to ObamaCare, but that does not change reality. And the reality is that ObamaCare is still here, despite its funeral being attended countless times by fools, and millions of people have enrolled, despite all the comedy surrounding the launch of the web site.
Based on the experiences behind its closest relative (RomneyCare), a realist will see that five years from now, ObamaCare will still be with us and the momentum of popularity will be working to its favor.
Tis better to accept reality and approach the problem from there rather than kick the shit out of a delusion and look more and more like an idiot.
lol.
It is the law of the land and yet you tout that 5 million people out of 45 million people followed the law.
Asshole.
I remember when the rubes were laughing about only dozens of people being enrolled on the disastrour rollout of the web site.
Now it is millions.
And millions more to come.
Who is laughing now? Who is the fool?
And don't tell me you actually fell for the left wing's "45 million uninsured Americans" ploy!
So many rubes.
On the left, you have the rubes who believed there were 45 million uninsured Americans. And now on the right, daily obituaries for ObamaCare.
So the GOP position is...no state exchanges in red states, and therefore no red state citizens should be able to get subsidies for their health insurance since they are forced to sign up for health insurance through the federal exchange because of their GOP legislatures.
This means people who live in red states will be paying more out of their pockets for health insurance than those who live in blue states.
Hmmm. I just can't see THAT backfiring on the GOP!
So the people in the red states who strongly oppose Obamacare will make their candidates pay for not implementing obamacare. Come again?
The people in red states who can only get their insurance through the federal site and who will therefore be denied subsidies will make the GOP pay.
The issue ads practically write themselves.
The 2016 GOP candidate for President will have to answer the following question: "Repeal ObamaCare...AND THEN WHAT?"
With specifics required. Not some bloviation about "free market solutions". Actual specifics.
This has been the GOP's gigantic blind spot the size of an elephant.
So the people in the red states who strongly oppose Obamacare will make their candidates pay for not implementing obamacare. Come again?
The people in red states who can only get their insurance through the federal site and who will therefore be denied subsidies will make the GOP pay.
The issue ads practically write themselves.
So your view is that Obamacare is cool to Republican voters, it's just the politicians who are against it? What is your evidence of that exactly?
Hey mrs knowitall, shut up with your baseless lies.The 2016 GOP candidate for President will have to answer the following question: "Repeal ObamaCare...AND THEN WHAT?"
With specifics required. Not some bloviation about "free market solutions". Actual specifics.
This has been the GOP's gigantic blind spot the size of an elephant.
So the GOP position is...no state exchanges in red states, and therefore no red state citizens should be able to get subsidies for their health insurance since they are forced to sign up for health insurance through the federal exchange because of their GOP legislatures.
This means people who live in red states will be paying more out of their pockets for health insurance than those who live in blue states.
Hmmm. I just can't see THAT backfiring on the GOP!
The current GOP leadership are OK with "red state" citizens paying more for insurance than they have to. Why wouldn't they be?
How many uninsured Americans were there in 2010? Anyone know?
