No doubt that there are, And as long as they do not identify themselves as such no one will ever care. They do not need special treatment and special rules to serve.
DADT is a "special" rule.
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No doubt that there are, And as long as they do not identify themselves as such no one will ever care. They do not need special treatment and special rules to serve.
No doubt that there are, And as long as they do not identify themselves as such no one will ever care. They do not need special treatment and special rules to serve.
DADT is a "special" rule.
No doubt that there are, And as long as they do not identify themselves as such no one will ever care. They do not need special treatment and special rules to serve.
DADT is a "special" rule.
Not really.
Not really.
Why was it designed? Shh.
Not really.
Why was it designed? Shh.
To allow the military to work effectively.
Why was it designed? Shh.
To allow the military to work effectively.
To allow the military to work effectively.
So you think it was done to hamper the military from working effectively?
So you think it was done to hamper the military from working effectively?
Ask those who have been kicked out and those who have to pick up the slack in their commands.
Ask those COs who PURPOSELY do not report their gay soldiers/sailors because they cannot afford to lose them.
Ask their fellow soldiers/sailors who know they are gay and still RELY on them to cover their six in combat, at work, etc.
Gay soldiers/sailors are NOT being kicked out for failure to do their job....they are NOT being kicked out because their commands are suddenly not able to work effectively with them there. That's the proof.
So you think it was done to hamper the military from working effectively?
So you think it was done to hamper the military from working effectively?
I think it was done because there's an underlying societal taboo against being Gay..... and so the institution followed suit; however, I also feel that the taboo is petty and lacks integrity.
Our view on gays in the military: Historic votes don't assure end to 'don't ask, don't tell' - USATODAY.com
Public opinion has shifted as well. In a Gallup poll in May, 70% of the public including 53% of self-described conservatives favored allowing openly gay men and women to serve, up 30 percentage points since 1993.
Serving. I know for a FACT that in most cases, your gay soldier/sailor is a valuable member of the command. So much so, commands do NOT report them. The only time I ever saw someone discharged was: 1) they were a no-load, 2) they wanted out themselves, 3) the command was homophobic. These were rare conditions...one reason why many many gay members stay in. I've had commanders, when told by NIS (now NCIS) that a member is gay, had told the agent "so what" and told them to leave.So you think it was done to hamper the military from working effectively?
Ask those who have been kicked out and those who have to pick up the slack in their commands.
Ask those COs who PURPOSELY do not report their gay soldiers/sailors because they cannot afford to lose them.
Ask their fellow soldiers/sailors who know they are gay and still RELY on them to cover their six in combat, at work, etc.
Gay soldiers/sailors are NOT being kicked out for failure to do their job....they are NOT being kicked out because their commands are suddenly not able to work effectively with them there. That's the proof.
You know this how?
There is no reason for any gay soldier to be kicked out other than his own actions.
OK. You are entirely welcome to your opinion. So is the opinion that homosexuality is disgusting and foul and contrary to Gd's law.
Do you really want to impose your view on other people?
OK. You are entirely welcome to your opinion. So is the opinion that homosexuality is disgusting and foul and contrary to Gd's law.
Do you really want to impose your view on other people?
What's the difference if I do? DADT does just that, it's no different.
Thats the whole point of DADT. It imposes no policy other than shut up about who you like to sleep with. It does not say gay people cannot serve in the military. And there are probably plenty doing so now. But if you change the policy you force the military to make a value judgment.
Thats the whole point of DADT. It imposes no policy other than shut up about who you like to sleep with. It does not say gay people cannot serve in the military. And there are probably plenty doing so now. But if you change the policy you force the military to make a value judgment.
It's designed because society has been traditionally homophobic. Now that we're (or we'd like to think) advancing to become a more empathetic species, you'd like to think pussies wouldn't cry when a policy designed around a bigotry is abolished. Just a nice thought I suppose, but I'm willing to just laugh off the bigots wherever possible.
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Especially the ones who like to disguise their bigotries as something else and don't have the testicular fortitude to stand behind their convictions.
Well, there you go with your own agenda. Opposing homosexuality is "bigotry". That is a value judgment on your part, happily not shared by many people. You really are jsut trying to impose your own views.