Will Bush and Cheney be tried for war crimes?

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    Last Thursday, Carl Levin's Senate Armed Services Committee released a report which basically called Bush and his entire National Security Council war criminals. Of note was the fact that the Senate committee voted for the report unanimously. Every single Republican (led by John McCain), along with all the Democrats, voted for this report. And the language the report uses is not the usual vague "mistakes were made" sort (which is often a necessity forced upon the such committees as a whole, by one party or another).

    The report is titled "Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into The Treatment Of Detainees In U.S. Custody". From the opening paragraphs:

    Al Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are taught to expect Americans to abuse them. They are recruited based on false propaganda that says the United States is out to destroy Islam. Treating detainees harshly only reinforces that distorted view, increases resistance to cooperation, and creates new enemies. In fact, the April 2006 National Intelligence Estimate "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States" cited "pervasive anti U.S. sentiment among most Muslims" as an underlying factor fueling the spread of the global jihadist movement. Former Navy General Counsel Alberto Mora testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee in June 2008 that "there are serving U.S. flag-rank officers who maintain that the first and second identifiable causes of U.S. combat deaths in Iraq -- as judged by their effectiveness in recruiting insurgent fighters into combat -- are, respectively the symbols of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo."

    The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of "a few bad apples" acting on their own. The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality, and authorized their use against detainees. Those efforts damaged our ability to collect accurate intelligence that could save lives, strengthened the hand of our enemies, and compromised our moral authority.

    The report goes on for 29 pages in great detail about what happened, and who authorized it. It does not mince words. It names names. It traces not only the orders for such treatment of prisoners from the very top of the chain of command, it also traces the legal opinions which were produced to provide cover for what is described as techniques "based on illegal exploitation (under the rules listed in the 1949 Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War) of prisoners over the last 50 years." In other words, war crimes.

    Chris Weigant: War Crimes and Incompetence -- the Real Shoes Thrown at Bush
     
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    Yes, they should, as should Clinton.
     
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    Obama will not stand for this. He wants unity in this country, he is sick & tired of the division in this country. He has said he will not permit this to go forward, yet there are some who are so filled with hate, they just will not let it go.

    The author of this post being one of them.

    Since you're on war crimes & torture AGAIN-you still have not answered my question: This is now the 7th time I have asked you. So here it is again--regarding waterboarding, or what you consider torture, & now obviously a war crime.

    If one of your loved ones were captured by terrorists. One of the terrorists were caught & everyone knows that this terrorist knows exactly where your loved one is. You know that your loved one only has hours to live. The terrorist will not give up any information, has been offered coffee, donuts & a lot of sweet-talking but still won't tell the authorities where your loved one is. The terrorist is just sitting back enjoying his coffee & donuts with a big grin on his face, watching the clock tick away.

    1. Would you approve of waterboarding this terrorist to save your loved ones life?
    2. Would you disaprove of waterboarding this terrorist to save your loved ones life, because as you have stated repeatedly waterboarding only creates more terrorists. Therefore by waterboarding this terrorist, who knows where your loved one is, you would only be creating another terrorist.

    Just reply with a simple 1 or 2.
     
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    Waterboarding is AQ greatest recruiting tool.

    People who support waterboarding are helping the terrorists.
     
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    Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, is calling for an investigation into who in the Bush administration authorized the torture.
     
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    You still haven't answered the question asked...

    I would authorize what ever would work to get the information out of them.
     
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    They should be tried as war criminals, as should clinton.
     
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    Who exactly would 'try' them?
     
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    Lycurgus Who is Obama, really...??

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    Do you have any idea how stupid that remark is?

    Increduble
     
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    Chris is another liberal lemming. He has no independently functioning brain, it is slaved to the talking points sent out by DU and KOS. He can happily make statements like "Bush bad, for 750 billion bailout, Obama good for 850 billion dollar Stimulas" He and about 5 others on this board have no functioning higher brain power. They are automons controlled and run by Liberal sites and talking points.

    Basically when you see a thread started by Chris go there just to get a laugh at the latest idiotic claim he is making.
     
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