Now Obama Slaps the Gay Community with Rick Warren

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    Rick Warren, Obama Invocation Choice, Causing First Real Rift With Progressives

    On Wednesday, the transition team and Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies announced that Rick Warren, pastor of the powerful Saddleback Church, would give the invocation on January 20th. The selection may not have been incredibly surprising. Obama and Warren are reportedly close -- Obama praised the Megachurch leader in his second book "The Audacity of Hope." Warren, meanwhile, hosted a values forum between Obama and McCain during the general election. Nevertheless, the announcement is being greeted with deep skepticism in progressive religious and political circles.

    "My blood pressure is really high right now," said Rev. Chuck Currie, minister at Parkrose Community United Church of Christ in Portland, Oregon. "Rick Warren does some really good stuff and there are some areas that I have admired his ability to build bridges between evangelicals and mainline religious and political figures... but he is also very established in the religious right and his position on social issues like gay rights, stem cell research and women's rights are all out of the mainstream and are very much opposed to the progressive agenda that Obama ran on. I think that he is very much the wrong person to put on the stage with the president that day."

    Warren does have a rather peculiar relationship with the incoming president. The two share a general ethos that political differences should not serve as impediments to progress. On topics like AIDS and poverty relief, they see eye-to-eye. But Warren's domestic and social agendas are at odds with Obama's. And for the gay and lesbian community in particular, the choice is a bitter pill to swallow.

    "Pastor Warren, while enjoying a reputation as a moderate based on his affable personality and his church's engagement on issues like AIDS in Africa, has said that the real difference between James Dobson and himself is one of tone rather than substance," read a statement from People For the American Way President Kathryn Kolbert. "He has repeated the Religious Right's big lie that supporters of equality for gay Americans are out to silence pastors. He has called Christians who advance a social gospel Marxists. He is adamantly opposed to women having a legal right to choose an abortion."

    "Picking Rick Warren to give THE invocation," wrote John Aravosis on AmericaBlog, "is abominable."

    "Let me get right to the point," Joe Solomnese, the president of the Human Rights Campaign, said in a harsh letter to the president-elect, "Your invitation to Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration is a genuine blow to LGBT Americans."
    Rick Warren, Obama Invocation Choice, Causing First Real Rift With Progressives

    DAMN .. Rick Warren, the man who wants to ban all abortions, thinks Obama supports a holacuast, who compared gay marriage to pedophilia and incest, and helped lead the fight for Prop 8 in California, and who says he agrees with everything right-wing nutcase James Dobson believes.

    Many who ran out and stood in long lines to support this guy must be feeling pretty used by now.
     
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    This guy is doing the invocation, and a pastor with opposing views is doing the benediction. Sounds to me like Obama chose two religious figures who span a good part of the landscape of religious views. That sounds to me more or less like the sort of thing Obama said he would do in terms of being a President for 'everyone,' as opposed to much of what we've seen over the past administration.
     
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    This Obama is a shrewd man. He is coming off as being centrist. We may have to wait for his 2nd administration before we see his true colors.
     
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    bahhhh

    let the fuckbucket libbies get all upset over some guy talking, not advising. What a crock.
     
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    Damn it, I was promised by Conservatives that Obama would populate his government with Marxist-Lennists, extreme leftists, and radical muslim socialists. Could Cons have been wrong...again? For the 957,499,645th time?



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    1) This Rick Warren sounds like an asshole.

    2) Am I surprised? No, I always thought Obama was going to seek to be a "uniter, not a divider", and bring Cons and reactionary's on board with him. Do I like it? No, but I was always fully aware this was what Obama was all about.
     
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    Hmmm.. don't remember stating anything about who Obama would populate his staff with... juyst that his record shows exactly the type of person he is and what he stands for... I can staff my team with a lot of people with different views, but it does not change the way I operate... and Obama is not going to go from being the most extreme leftist Congressperson to being a centrist...
     
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    Wrong? In fact, most of them are in deep denial even today.

    They're still reeling from the discovery that everything they thought they knew about the economy and their grand old party was totally and completely wrong.

    They are like recently jilted lovers ... babbling incoherences about market forces and invisible hands while that whore they so adored -- the one they called the W -- is down on his knees sucking off Keynesan economists so the Chinese don't call in their debts and take posesssion of the White House.
     
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    I'm disappointed to see him pandering to the wingnut religious faction.

    I'd prefer they stay with the Republicans.
     
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    At least you're willing to admit it, unlike most Obama voters.
     
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    One of the benefits of not being an Obamabot.
     

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