Why the Democrats won't compromise

[rdean]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Actually, you know that for the GOP, it's their way or no way. Obama has compromised so much he's pissed off his base. That's common knowledge. Even right wingers talk about it.

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!

Spending that was necessary to keep our country from falling into a Depression. You can ask most top economists and they'll say the same thing.

Naturally President Obama would have preferred to walk into a surplus like his predecessor did, but President Obama was the guy we hired to clean up the incredible mess left by Bush II.

Cleanup is expensive. Just ask BP...

Going with that logic, our debt will be somewhere around 16 trillion when election time comes around. Assuming an R wins, do you support that R to up the ceiling another 10 T to clean up O's mess? I don't.

Of course not, deficits will magically, once again matter and it will all be Bush's fault.

 

[P@triot]

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

How does that make any sense?!?! Just because "raising the debt ceiling has never been tied to a budget deal" in the past means it shouldn't be today?

Guess what else we've never had in the past - a $14 trillion debt. This is why dealing with you Dumbocrats is so frustrating - you make "points" that have no point and have nothing to do with anything. Maybe if we had tied a budget deal to raising the debt ceiling in the past we wouldn't have a $14 trillion deficit.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Actually, you know that for the GOP, it's their way or no way. Obama has compromised so much he's pissed off his base. That's common knowledge. Even right wingers talk about it.

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

Have you always been this stupid?

 

[P@triot]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignorant post - they are not compromising by not raising taxes. The Dumbocrats were already thrown out of office in record numbers last November, they know they will completely bury the entire party if they raise taxes. So essentially, they have compromised on nothing.

It's a typical Dumbocrat political ploy - make everyone think they are compromising on something they can't do anyway, in order to avoid the actual compromise they don't want - a limit on their reckless spending.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Actually, you know that for the GOP, it's their way or no way. Obama has compromised so much he's pissed off his base. That's common knowledge. Even right wingers talk about it.

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

Not true. O doesn't even have a plan for the debt issue plus, Reid and O are the ones who are refusing to compromise. They can't even come up with a plan.

 

[P@triot]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Actually, you know that for the GOP, it's their way or no way. Obama has compromised so much he's pissed off his base. That's common knowledge. Even right wingers talk about it.

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

Barack Hussein has compromised on nothing and you know it. I swear, you people must work for his campaign they way you spread lies and propaganda.

The American people overwhelmingly screamed at the top of their lungs that they did not want his Obamacare abomination. Did he compromise? No, he rammed down our throats like a little dictator.

The American people made it very clear that they did not want the Frank and Dodd Finance "Reform" bill. Did he compromise? No, he rammed it down our throats like a little dictator.

The American people overwhelmingly screamed at the top of their lungs that they did not want his trillion dollar "stimulus" package. Did he compromise? No, he rammed it down our throats like a little dictator.

Now the American people have made it very clear that they want a balanced budget amdendment to the Constitution to stop the reckless spending of this federal government monstrosity. Has he compromised? Once again, he acts like a little dictator.

I'd love someone to provide one actual example of a compromise he has made. Just one compromise of any significance at all. You can't do it - which is why you didn't list even one in your post about how he "compromises".

 

[Full-Auto]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

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Now now, you know democrats turned it around.

They used to be the party of tax and spend.

Now it is spend and tax.

Dont you see the difference?

 

[rdean]

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

How does that make any sense?!?! Just because "raising the debt ceiling has never been tied to a budget deal" in the past means it shouldn't be today?

Guess what else we've never had in the past - a $14 trillion debt. This is why dealing with you Dumbocrats is so frustrating - you make "points" that have no point and have nothing to do with anything. Maybe if we had tied a budget deal to raising the debt ceiling in the past we wouldn't have a $14 trillion deficit.

OMG! You mean the three largest are Republicans and the two smallest are Democrats? Who would have thunk it?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Actually, you know that for the GOP, it's their way or no way. Obama has compromised so much he's pissed off his base. That's common knowledge. Even right wingers talk about it.

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

Not true. O doesn't even have a plan for the debt issue plus, Reid and O are the ones who are refusing to compromise. They can't even come up with a plan.

Congress Heads Into Weekend Deadlocked on Plan to Avert Default - Businessweek

Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, who offered modifications to a Democratic plan that he said are designed to attract Republican support, accused GOP leaders of rebuffing his efforts to negotiate.

thats not even commenting the fact the senate will be debating this plan for the next 12 hours.

You are a fucking moron and liar.

Show us Reid and O's plan. I haven't see the CBO score anything from the dems. You're insatiable desire to throw profanities does not state your case.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

The Pubs' compromise is to not destroy the economy, maybe? LOL!!

The last time the debt was MUCH WORSE than this was after WWII. Tax rates were raised to top rates of 90%, and we had huge PROSPERITY....THIS is the wrong time to crush confidence with all this BS. Are you morons or just so relieved to not be in the party of intellectuals, cosmopolitans, and minorities?

 

[peach174]

Under Reid's plan the spending just keeps going up and up.

Congressional Record - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

[NYcarbineer]

We are borrowing 40% of what we're spending.

To balance the budget without any tax increase you have to cut government spending by 40%.

How many of you who want to balance the budget but also want no tax increases are willing to, let's say,

cut the defense budget by 40%?

eh?

 

[Seawytch]

Bullshit. If they wanted to they had two years of total control and all they did was historical spending. YOU are full of S*&^!

Spending that was necessary to keep our country from falling into a Depression. You can ask most top economists and they'll say the same thing.

Naturally President Obama would have preferred to walk into a surplus like his predecessor did, but President Obama was the guy we hired to clean up the incredible mess left by Bush II.

Cleanup is expensive. Just ask BP...

Going with that logic, our debt will be somewhere around 16 trillion when election time comes around. Assuming an R wins, do you support that R to up the ceiling another 10 T to clean up O's mess? I don't.

If that is what it takes to keep the US from defaulting on its FF&C, yes. We have to pay our bills, it's as simple as that.

Absolutely have a discussion on what we spend from now on, but this is about paying our bills, not future debt.

Absolutely have a discussion about how to fix our budget from this point on. Have a discussion about cuts and revenues, but don't hold the US and the World economy hostage to do it. Those ARE terrorist tactics, not the tactics of AMERICAN legislators.

 

[Full-Auto]

We are borrowing 40% of what we're spending.

To balance the budget without any tax increase you have to cut government spending by 40%.

How many of you who want to balance the budget but also want no tax increases are willing to, let's say,

cut the defense budget by 40%?

eh?

I would, you are aware they added social programs in that budget arent you?

 

[Dr.House]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

You should use "Taxes".... "Revenues" is what you use when you want to fool the stupid democratics into agreeing with you....

Fortunately, they're not buying your bullshit....

 

[NYcarbineer]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignorant post - they are not compromising by not raising taxes. The Dumbocrats were already thrown out of office in record numbers last November, they know they will completely bury the entire party if they raise taxes. So essentially, they have compromised on nothing.

It's a typical Dumbocrat political ploy - make everyone think they are compromising on something they can't do anyway, in order to avoid the actual compromise they don't want - a limit on their reckless spending.

This is how bad it's gotten. There is no longer a single conservative left on USMB who can rationally view and discuss this issue.

 

[Avatar4321]

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

There is only one problem with what you've said. Democrats have never compromised. Never once have they made a single cut in government spending.

There are many times they've promised to cut spending for tax increase. Those times the GOP foolishly agreed to raise taxes and guess what. The Democrats lied and kept spending.

If you guys want tax increases, you shouldn't have lied so many times in the past. You guys want to the debt ceiling increased. Fine. But we get immediate and massive spending cuts NOW. You don't get to demand tax cuts as well as the debt ceiling increase while getting out of any cuts.

Stop deluding yourself into thinking the Democrats have compromised on anything. They are just whining because Congress isnt capitulating on all their demands when they offer NOTHING.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

And of course the Dems only had a supermajority for about 6 months, not 2 years (Al Franken-Scott Brown), BUT keep repeating stupid lies until the careless 63% believe- then your mga rich masters can screw us all again. Pub Dupes!!

 

[Avatar4321]

This is how bad it's gotten. There is no longer a single conservative left on USMB who can rationally view and discuss this issue.

Rational discussion requires two rational parties. If no one can have a rational discussion with you, then chances are the problem isn't with everyone else.