Why the Democrats won't compromise

[CrusaderFrank]

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

Who are the hostages? I certainly don't feel like I'm being held captive by the Republicans.

The Full Faith and Credit of the United States is being held hostage. The US and World Economies are being held hostage.

And the nutty Tea Bagger faction of the GnOP are giving every indication that they are willing to shoot the hostages.

Obama's annual $1T+ deficits have already destroyed our credit

Obama Deficits > Reagan Budget

Clue: Get one today

 

[Neotrotsky]

TEABAGGERS vs. FISTERS: The Debate Is Over

 

[bripat9643]

The Full Faith and Credit of the United States is being held hostage. The US and World Economies are being held hostage.

Republicans aren't holding them hostage. The idea that the economy depends on the continuation of the DimoRAT spending spree is too absurd for words.

And the nutty Tea Bagger faction of the GnOP are giving every indication that they are willing to shoot the hostages.

Only in this day and age is expecting the government to balance its budget seen as "nutty," but demanding that government run $2 trillion deficits as far as the eye can see is seen as "mainstream."

This country is doomed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Full Faith and Credit of the United States is being held hostage. The US and World Economies are being held hostage.

Republicans aren't holding them hostage. The idea that the economy depends on the continuation of the DimoRAT spending spree is too absurd for words.

And the nutty Tea Bagger faction of the GnOP are giving every indication that they are willing to shoot the hostages.

Only in this day and age is expecting the government to balance its budget seen as "nutty," but demanding that government run $2 trillion deficits as far as the eye can see is seen as "mainstream."

This country is doomed.

Because we need more Failed Shovel ready Stimulus from our Failed Leader leading the Democrat Party of Failures and Losers!

We need $4 trillion, no 6 trillion, no 48 trillion in Stimulus!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Rational discussion requires two rational parties. If no one can have a rational discussion with you, then chances are the problem isn't with everyone else.

When someone on the right takes the stand that the Democrats are not willing to compromise because they won't accept a package that the Republican Speaker already revised TO THE RIGHT in order to placate the right wing of HIS own party,

that is irrational.

When someone on the right takes the stand that no compromise on the GOP side on revenues is somehow a compromise,

that is irrational.

When someone on the right takes the stand that because the GOP won the House last November, that somehow trumps the fact that Democrats still control the Presidency and the Senate,
and therefore the House has the right to expect that anything they want should sail through unencumbered,

and it's worth throwing the country into chaos to uncompromisingly assert that stand,

that's irrational.

Look, you either want the debt ceiling increased or you want to increase taxes. If you think you are going to get both on the promise to cut spending in the future, you are being completely irrational.

You want the debt ceiling raised, We want immediate spending cuts. We are willing to do what you want, so when are you going to compromise and cut the spending? You've lost all credibility to negotiate for future cuts when you violated the last several "compromises".

Like I said, if you don't want to compromise fine. But stop pretending we don't when we are giving you your precious debt ceiling raise.

So the Republicans who gave Bush 7 debt ceiling increases in order to pay for the wars they wanted, while cutting taxes, and the increased spending they wanted, while cutting taxes,

NOW are compromising if they agree to raise the debt ceiling which is ONLY being hit because of their own policies during the Bush presidency?

You just proved my point. There are only complete morons left here on USMB representing the Right.

 

[bripat9643]

NOW are compromising if they agree to raise the debt ceiling which is ONLY being hit because of their own policies during the Bush presidency?

You just proved my point. There are only complete morons left here on USMB representing the Right.

The debt ceiling is being hit because Obama and the Dims increased spending by 25%. You have to be terminally stupid to believe Bush is to blame. He hasn't been in office for almost 3 years.

 

[sitarro]

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

His avatar blew any credibility he might have ever had, he's a dick that is typically clueless.

 

[sitarro]

The Full Faith and Credit of the United States is being held hostage. The US and World Economies are being held hostage.

Republicans aren't holding them hostage. The idea that the economy depends on the continuation of the DimoRAT spending spree is too absurd for words.

And the nutty Tea Bagger faction of the GnOP are giving every indication that they are willing to shoot the hostages.

Only in this day and age is expecting the government to balance its budget seen as "nutty," but demanding that government run $2 trillion deficits as far as the eye can see is seen as "mainstream."

This country is doomed.

Because we need more Failed Shovel ready Stimulus from our Failed Leader leading the Democrat Party of Failures and Losers!

We need $4 trillion, no 6 trillion, no 48 trillion in Stimulus!

Hey, Why not give every man, woman and child that is legal, can show a picture ID and last years tax return, a million bucks............ I bet there wouldn't be a problem producing a picture ID.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

The Pubs' compromise is to not destroy the economy, maybe? LOL!!

The last time the debt was MUCH WORSE than this was after WWII. Tax rates were raised to top rates of 90%, and we had huge PROSPERITY....THIS is the wrong time to crush confidence with all this BS. Are you morons or just so relieved to not be in the party of intellectuals, cosmopolitans, and minorities?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

Who are the hostages? I certainly don't feel like I'm being held captive by the Republicans.

The Full Faith and Credit of the United States is being held hostage. The US and World Economies are being held hostage.

And the nutty Tea Bagger faction of the GnOP are giving every indication that they are willing to shoot the hostages.

Hostage....? you sound just like one of those jabbering libtard media parrots....every one of them's been saying...
hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage...hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage....hostage...


...did you attend your goosestepping practice today...?

 

[Neotrotsky]

The Left only cares about the next election

 

[Ame®icano]

 

[IndependntLogic]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Wait, I'm curious. Where was the compromise in the Ryan Plan or CCB?

Also, the Ryan Plan doesn't reduce the deficit.

 

[Stephanie]

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

You're right...terrorist is probably too strong a word. Simple insane hostage takers will do.

Do you see yourself as a USEFUL tool repeating stupid shit from other lefty idiots?
just wondering?

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Democrats want to reduce the deficit by a combination of revenues and cuts.

They make a HUGE compromise when they take a deal without revenues.

In short, you are comically full of shit.

Completely ignoring the fact that the raising of the debt ceiling has never been tied to budget deals in the 102 times it has been raised since 1917. 18 times by the Tea Bagger messiah, Reagan. That we are negotiating with these terrorists in the first place is in itself one hell of a compromise.

Terrorists? Did they kill someone? Your credibility is blown with irrational statements such as these.

i agree....calling fellow Americans "Terrorist" because they dont see things like you do is......well lets just say Wytch your no better then the biggest Asshole we have as a Member here.....the little Hairball named Douger.....go live with him.....then you both can call us "Mercans" and giggle together.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why do you guys always insist on having it both ways. I guess because you can. Obama cares about the middle class in this country. Republicans don't. That gives them a stronger hand. It's why they play a moving clip about hurting people for "motivation".

Dean....have the Democrats ever hurt anybody?....be honest....

 

[TomRoark1985]

Can we all agree that both parties are (or recently have been) too concerned with politics, party lines, and reelection than serving the American people? I consider myself more of a conservative but honestly at this point I'm sick of all the hotheads in DC. Since when has politics been about shouting insults and trying to earn personal glory? And how come Congress shut down at 10:30 last night to get rest? Last time I checked, when a deadline as big as defaulting a nation comes around, it's time to down caffeine pills, suck up your pride, and work together to get the country through the immediate future. In this instance, the Dems have shot down numerous plans of the GOP, and although Boehner's plan didn't have everything the Dems wanted, it was so non-conservative that his own backers sent out word to vote against it. If Congress can't get their act together, they'll deal a heavy blow to the people they've been elected to serve.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Left only cares about the next election

Unfortunately so do a hell of a lot on the Right

 

[P@triot]

The GOP controlled House has now passed two bills that raise the debt ceiling as the Democrats want - the Ryan Plan and Cut, Cap, and Balance. That is the GOP's part of the compromise. In return, the GOP wants a balanced budget amendment to ensure we don't end up $14 trillion in debt again and requesting yet another debt ceiling raise.

Fair trade, right? Yet the Dumbocrats refuse. In fact, Fascist Reid is so scared, he won't even let the Dumbocrat controlled Senate vote on the bill. Why?

It finally hit me why. Power. The Dumbocrats bring nothing to the table and never have. They only way they are able to win elections and stay in office is by promising people an endless supply of government money (healthcare, housing, food, welfare, etc.). Except, the government doesn't have an endless supply of money. But you can avoid that fact and the grim reality that comes with an honest debate about this issue by spending over the budget and going into debt. Then, you raise the debt ceiling while people are at work and continue to dole out cash we don't have and can't afford.

However, once you have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that forces you to spend within your means, you no longer have the ability to spend wildly and kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Which means you'll have to explain in a campaign debate how you're going to deliver the promises of an endless supply of government money when you have a responsible spending limit.

Of course, Fascist Reid and Marxist dictator Obama won't be able to have that debate. The only possible answer at that point would be "we plan to raise taxes heavily on the 50% of American's who actually pay taxes". And they all know they won't get elected with that slogan. That is why the Dumbocrats refuse to compromise in any capacity and instead are taking the US to the verge of default while using propaganda in hopes of convincing the American people that the GOP is at fault. Without the ability to add piles of debt to the American people, they have no platform to run on and will never get elected. The American people aren't interested in a platform of "we bring Marxism and massive taxes to the American people".

Wait, I'm curious. Where was the compromise in the Ryan Plan or CCB?

Also, the Ryan Plan doesn't reduce the deficit.

Seriously? Read the first sentence again.

Wow. Just wow....

 

[P@triot]

When someone on the right takes the stand that the Democrats are not willing to compromise because they won't accept a package that the Republican Speaker already revised TO THE RIGHT in order to placate the right wing of HIS own party,

that is irrational.

When someone on the right takes the stand that no compromise on the GOP side on revenues is somehow a compromise,

that is irrational.

When someone on the right takes the stand that because the GOP won the House last November, that somehow trumps the fact that Democrats still control the Presidency and the Senate,
and therefore the House has the right to expect that anything they want should sail through unencumbered,

and it's worth throwing the country into chaos to uncompromisingly assert that stand,

that's irrational.

Look, you either want the debt ceiling increased or you want to increase taxes. If you think you are going to get both on the promise to cut spending in the future, you are being completely irrational.

You want the debt ceiling raised, We want immediate spending cuts. We are willing to do what you want, so when are you going to compromise and cut the spending? You've lost all credibility to negotiate for future cuts when you violated the last several "compromises".

Like I said, if you don't want to compromise fine. But stop pretending we don't when we are giving you your precious debt ceiling raise.

So the Republicans who gave Bush 7 debt ceiling increases in order to pay for the wars they wanted, while cutting taxes, and the increased spending they wanted, while cutting taxes,

NOW are compromising if they agree to raise the debt ceiling which is ONLY being hit because of their own policies during the Bush presidency?

You just proved my point. There are only complete morons left here on USMB representing the Right.

You constantly post without having any idea what you are talking about. What does Bush have to do with any of this?!?!? When Bush left office, the national debt stood at $9 trillion. In the 2.5 years since, it has risen to $14 trillion. These are undeniable facts.

That means the Marxist dictator Barack Hussein has spent $5 trillion over the budget in only 2.5 years. If he had not done that, he would have $5 trillion in "cap" space to borrow right now. But since he spent recklessly like you Dumbocrats do, he has now created a crisis.

One more thing - no conservative "wanted" a war. How quickly you Dumbocrats forget 9/11, when we were attacked by terrorists because Bill Clinton gutted defense by $500 billion over 8 years and refused to address the Al Qaeda problem. I guess that's why you guys are Dumbocrats though...