Why not Arrest Sanctuary Jurisdictions When an interstate felony results?

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    first degrees should go first.
     
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    " Stupid Is As Stupid Allows "

    * Propositional Nonsense *
    Requiring valid identification for services or arrest processing does not violate constitutional protections .

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    Yup the claim cops can not ask for ID is as stupid as it gets, the idea that Hospitals can not ask for Id is up there too and YES they require LEGAL VALID ID.
     
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    " Abating Entitlement Claims Of Vagrants And Squatters "

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    Hospitals can treat them , and if hospitals want to get compensated by medicaid for their services they will report the identity and legal status of the patient before they are released .

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    That is one of the most idiotic statements and pretenses i have ever read .

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    States can deport anyone that is not a citizen of their state and they should deport illegals preferably to the welfare lines of your state where they can siphon funds for their social welfare from the appraisal district collecting your taxes .

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    See also: Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution. It's a capital crime; put these treasonous pieces of shit to death.
     
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    Why don't you review US v. AZ and get back to me on that. It's not my job to educate you.

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    Yes it does.
    You can demand ID for drivers because they agree to it when they accept the license.
    But it is illegal to demand an ID from anyone else, and asking immigration status is a violation of the 14th amendment, which ensures all people are treated equally under the law, while in this country.
    The jurisdiction for immigration is enirely federal, so state and municipal authorities simply are not authorized to have anything at all to do with immigration status. That includes even asking about it, much less arresting someone over it.
     
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    That is silly, the first graph only shows that deductibles have risen, not premiums.

    The second graph is attributed to Amanda Kowolski, not a member of Associated Press, so not exactly believable, but indicates a rise in premiums from 2013 to 2014, not that premiums were higher after ACA than before ACA. Sure they increased from 2013 to 2014, but are still half of what they were before ACA.

    You seem to fail to understand that when the US constitution authorized the federal government to do something, then that does not mean state or local agents can do it.

    The US constitution specifcally prevents any state from deporting anyone from their state, and demand free and unencumbered travel, protected by the ICC.

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    Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3, of the Constitution empowers Congress "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, andamong several States, and with the Indian Tribes." The term commerce as used in the Constitution means business orcommercial exchanges in any and all of its forms between citizens of different states, including purely social communicationsbetween citizens of different states by telegraph, telephone, or radio, and the mere passage of persons from one state toanother for either business or pleasure.

    Intrastate, or domestic, commerce is trade that occurs solely within the geographic borders of one state. As it does not moveacross state lines, intrastate commerce is subject to the exclusive control of the state.

    Interstate commerce, or commerce among the several states, is the free exchange of commodities between citizens ofdifferent states across state lines. Commerce with foreign nations occurs between citizens of the United States and citizensor subjects of foreign governments and, either immediately or at some stage of its progress, is extraterritorial. Commercewith Indian tribes refers to traffic or commercial exchanges involving both the United States and American Indians.

    The Commerce Clause was designed to eliminate an intense rivalry between the groups of those states that had tremendouscommercial advantage as a result of their proximity to a major harbor, and those states that were not near a harbor. Thatdisparity was the source of constant economic battles among the states. The exercise by Congress of its regulatory powerhas increased steadily with the growth and expansion of industry and means of transportation.

    Power to Regulate
    The Commerce Clause authorizes Congress to regulate commerce in order to ensure that the flow of interstate commerce isfree from local restraints imposed by various states. When Congress deems an aspect of interstate commerce to be in needof supervision, it will enact legislation that must have some real and rational relation to the subject of regulation. Congressmay constitutionally provide for the point at which subjects of interstate commerce become subjects of state law and,therefore, state regulation.
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    By the way, the word "regulate" in the Constitution means to ensure something is freely and efficiently functioning, without hindrance.
     
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    {... All justices agreed to uphold the provision of the law allowing Arizona state police to investigate the immigration status of an individual stopped, detained, or arrested if there is reasonable suspicion that individual is in the country illegally. However, Justice Kennedy specified in the majority opinion that state police may not detain the individual for a prolonged amount of time for not carrying immigration documents; and that cases of racial profiling are allowed to proceed through the courts, if such cases happen to arise later on. ...}

    So it is still illegal to just investigate immigration status randomly.
    You have to have some "reasonable suspicion" first.
     
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    Nope. The only reason police can ask drivers for an ID is because drivers agreed to it when they got their license.
    Otherwise no one needs an ID ever, and no one can demand to see one. You don't have to have one. And by the way, Social Security cards are illegal to use an an ID.
     
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