Why is there a war?

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    I remember an epic from the Maya Indians, who said that 3 brother-gods taught people livestock raising, growing plants. They gave people iron tools to work easier. But then the younger brother wanted to have more ... The older brothers kicked him out. This brother was offended and gave people weapons ...

    Why do people fight?
    The answer is simple: - Private ownership of the means of production.
    Marxism.
    Watch for the causes and consequences and try to refute:

    1. Primitive man lives in the vast. One day he invents a brass ax. If the ax belonged to the whole cave, then all the prey obtained from this ax would be divided equally. But the ax belongs to him - private property.
    Effects:
    - the emergence of surplus in one person
    - the emergence of inequality.
    - the emergence of free time, he can work less and hire others for hunting
    . - the emergence of human exploitation by man

    2. This person produces meat in his cave In another cave, such a person produces fish. They met and decided to change.
    The emergence of commodity relations.

    3. How to determine how much meat should be changed for fish?
    It is necessary to count on the number of beautiful rakoven
    The emergence of monetary relations.

    4. People in caves do not have enough shells, they want meat and fish. But manufacturers do not reduce the price
    There is a crisis of production

    5. The meat producer wants to sell it more to the neighboring cave, the fish producer wants to sell it more to the neighboring cave. But the shells are not enough! There is a conflict of interests

    . War!
     
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    Gotta disagree with #!

    Primitive man lives in a communist state. If he invents a brass ax for himself every other hunter gets one too as they rely on each other to feed the clan.
     
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    If a primitive man invents a brass ax, then he uses it alone. This is a rule of private property. Other hunters can not use it.
    You are wrong.
     
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    Youre missing the point. No primitive man existed alone. He worked within a communist society for the good of the entire clan. You are wrong. Primitive man would have died out if they were alone. Any improvement was immediately shared with the rest of the group.
     
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    Whats not clear is where you got this silly idea in your head. You didnt have rights to private property in primitive society. If the leader wanted your axe he just took it. If your axe was a benefit then every other hunter in the clan would soon have one.
     
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    Also war is due to the lack of resources. I dont have shit so I want to take your shit by force if you dont share..
     
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    WRONG again, sweet-cheeks. If primitive man invents a bronze axe (pure brass would be worthless, there was no "brass age" and even a primitive man would see that so is apparently already a step ahead of YOU in smarts), he would then teach others how to make one too, show them so they can all be a stronger tribe against others, trade favors, women and food to use the axe, thereby creating CAPITALISM you dimwit, not socialism, which is what you MEANT to say over communism but were again too fucking dim to even know that much.
     
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    When an anonymous person turns to abuse, then he is not interesting to me. Get out!
     
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    You are an idiot. I didnt say there was a brass age you moron. You actually agreed with me when I said all the other group members would have one as well.
     
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    I didnt abuse you. I just pointed out your claim was silly because humans wouldnt exist if they had not shared resources and banded together in a communist society from the beginning. No I will not get out.
     

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