Why is Obama standing by?

[Roudy]

While the Syrian government is slaughtering it's own people? Doesn't the rules that led the US to intervene in Libya also apply here, if not to a greater extent?

 

[uscitizen]

Why is Obama standing by?

Because every time he sits down the right complain about it.

 

[Roudy]

Why is Obama standing by?

Because every time he sits down the right complain about it.

I'm just saying if we went into Libya as a humanitarian mission then the situation in Syria is much worse. Anyhow it would be fair to say that we are much worse off from a foreign pokicy standpoint, from the time Obama took office. I can't think of ONE THING he's done right, can you? Hes blundered Egypt, Iran, n Korea, and now of course Syria. We are back before the days Carter was booted out on his ass.

 

[Sallow]

We went into Libya because the guy leading the country authored the deaths of over 150 Americans in Lockerbie, Scotland.

 

[Katzndogz]

Russia has a major base in Syria with nuclear submarines stationed there. obama is scared so shitless of the Russians he intends to give them our classified defense plans. Then there's Iran who supports Assad and just dares the boy-king to do something about it. Iran is just itching to give him a bloody nose.

 

[waltky]

Rebels gettin' weapons from Saudi Arabia...

Saudi Arabia Arming Free Syrian Army
17 Mar.`12 - Protests in Syria have escalated into what some are calling a buregoning civil war, and the United Nations says "well over" 8,000 people have been killed since the uprising began in March last year. The government blames terrorists and "armed gangs" for the unrest and says more than 2,000 members of its security forces have been killed.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has condemned Saturday's bomb attacks in Damascus which killed and injured scores of people. He extended his sympathy and condolences to the families of the victims and the people of Syria and called for all violence to cease immediately. Activists said several people were killed in the city both on Friday and Saturday. A mass rally against Assad was held for the first time in al-Raqqa on Friday and a day later, clashes between army defectors and regular troops were reported as well as live fire used against protesters.

The state-run SANA news network says a third explosion struck the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp on the outskirts of Damascus today, following two major blasts that came minutes apart inside the capital. The Yarmouk explosion occurred when a "booby-trapped car" driven by "two terrorists" exploded. Five opposition groups have announced the formation of a "long-term" coalition that will be independent and meant to outlast the main Syrian National Council, a sign of the disorganisation that remains among opponents of President Bashar al-Assad a year into the uprising.

The new group, announced on Saturday in Istanbul, is made up of the liberal National Movement for Change, the islamist Movement for the Fatherland, the Bloc for Liberation and Development, led by Nawaf al-Bashir, a tribal chief, the Turkmen National Bloc, and the Kurdish Mouvement for a New Life. Asked about relations between the new coalition and the SNC, Ammar al-Qurabi, leader of the National Movement for Change, told AFP his "coalition was not set up in opposition to anyone, other than Assad's regime, but rather to unite the opposition outside the SNC." "We see the SNC as a temporary structure which will disappear with time, while our own coalition is a more long-term entity that will be there after liberation" in Syria, according to Imamduddin al-Rashid, head of the Movement for the Fatherland.

A top Arab diplomat says that a shipment of military equipment from Saudi Arabia is currently on its way to Syrian opposition fighters via Jordan. The diplomat, who spoke to the AFP news agency on condition of anonymity, said the shipment was intended to "arm the Free Syrian Army" and "stop the massacres". Saudi Arabia shut its embassy and withdrew all its staff from Syria two days ago. The government of President Bashar al-Assad has accused the Saudis and Qataris of supporting "terrorists" in Syria. The shipment is the first serious report of military assistance to the rebels in Syria.

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[Roudy]

We went into Libya because the guy leading the country authored the deaths of over 150 Americans in Lockerbie, Scotland.

Nah, we didn't go into Libya because of that. If that was the case we could have whacked Ghadaffi way before that. Instead we took him off the terrorist nation list and even praised him and gave him cookies when he dismantled his nuclear program. Remember that was one of Bush's "achievements" he was proud of, that Libya gave up making WMD's on its own without our having to invade. I'm just saying the rules that applied to Libya apply even more to Syria. Except we have a BS artist for president.

 

[Roudy]

Russia has a major base in Syria with nuclear submarines stationed there. obama is scared so shitless of the Russians he intends to give them our classified defense plans. Then there's Iran who supports Assad and just dares the boy-king to do something about it. Iran is just itching to give him a bloody nose.

Yes foreign policy will be the big wild card that non of the GOP candidates are talking much about yet, mainly because it's a very fluid situation right now. The Arab Spring has been a big disappointment, and Obama has proven to be the biggest blunderer and appeaser in Cheif. But once a GOP candidate becomes the nominee, you can count on him ripping Hussein Obama a few new ones on foreign policy. Bush handed Obama two places we were winning, Iraq and Afganistan, and now we have six countries we are loosing. Our credibility is shot and we have no respect around the world.

 

[HenryBHough]

Poor little fella is doing the best he can given with what he has to work.

Time to face facts: You CANNOT fix stupid.

 

[waltky]

Tighter Sanctions Sought Against Syria...

Syria Conference: Gulf Countries to Fund Rebels
April 1, 2012 - An international coalition said Sunday that it will provide funding and communications equipment to Syrian rebels and opposition activists, reflecting a shift toward military options that might oust Syrian President Bashar Assad after a year of failed diplomacy aimed at stopping his crackdown on dissent.

Participants at a meeting on Syria, held in Istanbul, said Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries are creating a multimillion-dollar fund to pay members of the rebel Free Syrian Army and soldiers who defect from the regime and join opposition ranks. One delegate described the fund as a "pot of gold" to undermine Assad's army. In addition, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the United States is providing communications equipment to help opposition members in Syria organize, remain in contact with the outside world and evade regime attacks. "We are discussing with our international partners how best to expand this support," Clinton said.

The large-scale plan by Gulf countries to help Syria's badly overmatched rebels offers a solution to the international divide over whether to arm the rebels or support them through only non-lethal or humanitarian means. It also reflects frustration with appeals to Assad to stop his crackdown on dissent, as well as hopes of forcing his ouster by shifting the military balance on the ground. Conference participants confirmed the Gulf plan on condition of anonymity because details were still being worked out. It was unclear how the fund would be set up and monitored, or how the money, allegedly earmarked for salaries, would be guaranteed. A participant said the fund would involve millions of dollars every month.

The Saudis and other Arab Gulf states have proposed giving weapons to the rebels, while the U.S. and other allies, including Turkey, have balked out of fear of fueling an all-out civil war. Washington hasn't taken any public position on the fund, but it appears that it has given tacit support to its Arab allies. The salaries would aim to entice reluctant servicemen in Assad's military to break ranks and join the insurgency. With Syria's economy in a spiral, the Syrian opposition and U.S. and Arab officials hope soldiers will desert in large numbers and accelerate the downfall of the Assad regime.

At the meeting in Istanbul, delegates from dozens of countries also sought to increase pressure on Assad by pushing for tighter sanctions and increased diplomatic pressure, while urging the opposition to offer a democratic alternative to his regime. Yet the show of solidarity at the "Friends of the Syrian People" conference was marred by the absence of China, Russia and Iran — key supporters of Assad who disagree with Western and Arab allies over how to stop the bloodshed. A peace plan by U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan has so far failed to take hold amid fresh reports of deadly violence. "The Syrian regime should not be allowed at any cost to manipulate this plan to gain time," Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in an opening address.

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[JStone]

Cough, syria has no oil, cough

 

[waltky]

Syria's defected ambassador blasts Assad...

Defected Syrian envoy lashes out at Assad
14 July`12 — Nawaf Fares, who this week defected as Syria's ambassador to Iraq, on Saturday accused President Bashar al-Assad of allowing Al-Qaeda to use Syria as a springboard for attacks in his former host country.

Fares, the latest high-level official to abandon Assad, in an interview on Al-Jazeera television also accused Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of taking a stance toward Syria that was "contradictory" to the truth. Majority Shiite Muslim Iraq had repeatedly accused Damascus of letting Sunni insurgents and arms transit through Syria to carry out attacks inside the country, especially during the brutal sectarian conflict that erupted after US-led forces toppled Saddam Hussein's regime in 2003.

But since the uprising broke out last year against Assad -- who belongs to the Alawite offshoot of Shiite Islam -- Iraq's Shiite-led government has called for non-interference in Syria and has opposed arming Syrian rebels. "I personally reproach the (Iraqi) prime minister on his stance, which is contradictory to the truth," Fares said. "He knows very well what Bashar al-Assad had done to him and to all of Iraq and to Shiites specifically," Fares said, adding that Assad has "killed thousands" by opening "the doors for Al-Qaeda" militants to carry out bombings across Iraq.

Baghdad's stance was similar to that of Syria's other Shiite ally, Iran, which Fares accused of "putting pressure" on Maliki's government. "Iran must not support a tyrant and dictator who is killing his own people, regardless of its interests," Fares told Al-Jazeera in Qatar, to which he travelled after quitting his post. Western countries and the Syrian opposition accuse Iran of providing military support to the regime in Syria, where activists say more than 17,000 people have been killed since March 2011. Tehran denies the charge.

When asked about UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan's bid to get Iran's support for his tattered peace plan, Fares said: "Iran is part of the problem. How could it be part of the solution?" "The Syrian revolt will win despite Iran and all countries backing the tyrant," whom Fares described as "Syria's former president who is now a criminal and a killer." Fares, the first Syrian ambassador to defect to the opposition, was widely seen as a regime hardliner and his decision, announced on Al-Jazeera on Wednesday, was surprising.

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[hortysir]

I'm happy staying out of the shit hole.

We have enough drones buzzing around too many other countries

 

[Mad Scientist]

While the Syrian government is slaughtering it's own people? Doesn't the rules that led the US to intervene in Libya also apply here, if not to a greater extent?

Obama is waiting for the UN to tell him what to do.

 

[rhodescholar]

Why is Obama standing by? Because every time he sits down the right complain about it.

Don't even get me started with that fucking empty suit fake president. This clown has not even made a speech, not once, about this massive slaughter.

It is an outrage that the leader of the free world, this far left loser - a true friend of the far left garbage media like the NY Times - has said and done NOTHING. If a republican was in the white house, the media would be screaming over this inaction while thousands are murdered. I can see the NYT headlines: "President sits on his hands while Syria burns" or similar tripe.

He hasn't even given the rebellion a shred of support - what kind of leadership is that?

 

[rhodescholar]

We went into Libya because the guy leading the country authored the deaths of over 150 Americans in Lockerbie, Scotland.

Do you have any idea how many US troops in iraq were killed at the hands of the terrorists given weapons, support and shelter in syria? At least 25 times that many...

 

[American Horse]

We went into Libya because the guy leading the country authored the deaths of over 150 Americans in Lockerbie, Scotland.

We had entered detante with Qadafi's Libya, and concomitantly they had dropped their nuclear aspirations. What our involvement in Libya proved was that America can't be trusted administration to administration, therefor not at all.

 

[mememe]

While the Syrian government is slaughtering it's own people?

Who told you that the Syrian government (RECENTLY ELECTED!) is "slaughtering it's own people"?

Your media that serve the needs of the elites who are interested in whipping up your hysteria in support of them destroying yet another nation?!

 

[mememe]

Why is Obama standing by?

Because every time he sits down the right complain about it.

I'm just saying if we went into Libya as a humanitarian mission

"Humanitarian mission"? Is that the new "civilised" name for unprovoked agression, invasion and destruction of nations?!

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...-52UBw&usg=AFQjCNEX1g4POWh3uKEJlAqU9W7dIirYhg

 

[mememe]

We went into Libya because the guy leading the country authored the deaths of over 150 Americans in Lockerbie, Scotland.

Lie!

"the death of..." never bothered "civilised community" all those years!

The US organised the slaughter of Libya because:

1. Gaddafi refused to de-nationalise Libyan oil industry and sell it to France, and became a "tyrant".
2. Gaddafi invested heavily into French, British and Italian economies and gave money to politicians, Sarcozy for example. The time had come for "international community" to pay and Gaddafi became "a tyrant".
3. Gaddafi kept Libya out of the clutches of the Federal Reserve, and was successful in setting up Africal financial system not based on $; he became a "tyrant".

If Gaddafi would've sold Libya to "international community", he would still be live, well and in Libya.