Lord Long Rod
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A week ago this past Saturday Hamas fighters murdered, raped, and kidnapped hundreds of Israeli civilians. It was a devastating attack, which nobody disputes. This raises issues that must immediately be addressed, to wit: Security going forward, recovering kidnapped Israelis (and others) from Hamas, and a retaliatory strike. So why did the "Palestinian" issue even appear? The people advocating for these people insist that Hamas is separate from the "Palestinian people". If this is the case, then why can't we all agree to exterminate Hamas, a political group know to engage in terror attacks against Jews?
A very compelling case can be made that Hamas is responsible for whatever befalls Gaza in the wake of its unforgivable mass murder of Jews. The "Palestinians" voted Hamas into power, after all. Do the "Palestinians" support Hamas or not? They cannot have it both ways. If the "Palestinian" connection to Hamas is severable, then their plight really has nothing to do with the Hamas issue. This makes all of the pro-"Palestinian" talk misplaced. There is only one exception, which is how they will be affected by the war against Hamas.
Clearly, Israel has always gone the extra mile to protect civilians when they have had to go into Gaza to put down some terrorists in the past. Further, and as mentioned, Hamas was voted into power by Hamas. Gaza is not under Israeli control. Israel ceded that property to those people. Gaza governs itself. Hamas was elected to govern. As I have stated previously, nobody really worried what happened to the civilians across Germany in 1944-45 when the Allies were bombarding German cities. It is not like Germans were running around shouting "I am not a Nazi!! I am not a Nazi!!!! You are violating my human rights!!!". Well, maybe they were, but who cares? The fact is, you cannot separate the people in Gaza from the actions of Hamas. But, Israel is trying to do just that. They are yet again going the extra mile to minimize civilian casualties. And why wouldn't they? Israel is a civilized country; the only one in the Middle East, in fact.
Can we sever Hamas from the "Palestinian" people under the theory that the elections putting Hamas in power were rigged? To be candid, I would be surprised if these elections were NOT rigged. That is the sort of people we are dealing with in that part of the world. Democracy is not really too important to them, like it is the Israel. If elections were rigged, then Hamas is not a legitimate government. Why is nothing being done about it? Could it be that the "Palestinians" do nothing about this illegitimate government because they - Hamas - will murder each and every voice in opposition to them?
If this is the case, then the "Palestinians" are essentially being held captive in Gaza by the radical Hamas. This causes me to wonder: If the "Palestinians" are unhappy with such a situation, then why don't they seek assistance from Israel (who despises Hamas) and form a joint plan to oust Hamas? Israel would assist. There is absolutely no debating this. Israel would be grateful to be invited into Gaza by the non-Hamas "Palestinians" to assist them to depose Hamas. Why does this not happen? Could it be that most "Palestinian" people in Gaza support Hamas? Could be.
If Hamas is severed from the rest of the people in Gaza, then now is not really the time to be addressing the plight of the so-called "Palestinian" people, is it? The left wants to say it is not part of Hamas, while simultaneously using the horrific attacks to seek advantage and concession. This is rather weird and ghoulish, in my opinion.
If Hamas is truly separate from the "Palestinian" people AND they want to avoid death and injury to their people when Israel retaliates, then the natural response would be is disavow Hamas, condemn the terror attack, then keep your mouth shut. But these people are doing exactly the opposite. They are not disavowing Hamas to any real extent, they are not condemning the attacks, and they are screaming their cause upon a platform that Hamas has given them.
I think most of the left simply does not understand how these Jihadists think. They want to bait Israel into a bloody invasion. What they ultimately want is a pan-Arab war against Israel that leaves each and every Jew there dead. Hamas does not care how many of the "Palestinian" people die. To them, they die for a greater cause. It is almost as if Hamas believes it is doing those people in Gaza a favor in sacrificing them because they will be dying for Allah and, therefore, hastening their journey to Jew-hater heaven. The leftists are assisting them in Jihad by pumping up anti-Jewish sentiment. Moreover, 99% of such advocacy is based upon lies, mistruths, deceptions, and misinformation. But, you know, when you are doing God's work, you will do whatever to reach the end result you seek. In this case it is Allah's work, and the Jihadists will do whatever it takes to bring about their sought after Islamic Revolution.
A very compelling case can be made that Hamas is responsible for whatever befalls Gaza in the wake of its unforgivable mass murder of Jews. The "Palestinians" voted Hamas into power, after all. Do the "Palestinians" support Hamas or not? They cannot have it both ways. If the "Palestinian" connection to Hamas is severable, then their plight really has nothing to do with the Hamas issue. This makes all of the pro-"Palestinian" talk misplaced. There is only one exception, which is how they will be affected by the war against Hamas.
Clearly, Israel has always gone the extra mile to protect civilians when they have had to go into Gaza to put down some terrorists in the past. Further, and as mentioned, Hamas was voted into power by Hamas. Gaza is not under Israeli control. Israel ceded that property to those people. Gaza governs itself. Hamas was elected to govern. As I have stated previously, nobody really worried what happened to the civilians across Germany in 1944-45 when the Allies were bombarding German cities. It is not like Germans were running around shouting "I am not a Nazi!! I am not a Nazi!!!! You are violating my human rights!!!". Well, maybe they were, but who cares? The fact is, you cannot separate the people in Gaza from the actions of Hamas. But, Israel is trying to do just that. They are yet again going the extra mile to minimize civilian casualties. And why wouldn't they? Israel is a civilized country; the only one in the Middle East, in fact.
Can we sever Hamas from the "Palestinian" people under the theory that the elections putting Hamas in power were rigged? To be candid, I would be surprised if these elections were NOT rigged. That is the sort of people we are dealing with in that part of the world. Democracy is not really too important to them, like it is the Israel. If elections were rigged, then Hamas is not a legitimate government. Why is nothing being done about it? Could it be that the "Palestinians" do nothing about this illegitimate government because they - Hamas - will murder each and every voice in opposition to them?
If this is the case, then the "Palestinians" are essentially being held captive in Gaza by the radical Hamas. This causes me to wonder: If the "Palestinians" are unhappy with such a situation, then why don't they seek assistance from Israel (who despises Hamas) and form a joint plan to oust Hamas? Israel would assist. There is absolutely no debating this. Israel would be grateful to be invited into Gaza by the non-Hamas "Palestinians" to assist them to depose Hamas. Why does this not happen? Could it be that most "Palestinian" people in Gaza support Hamas? Could be.
If Hamas is severed from the rest of the people in Gaza, then now is not really the time to be addressing the plight of the so-called "Palestinian" people, is it? The left wants to say it is not part of Hamas, while simultaneously using the horrific attacks to seek advantage and concession. This is rather weird and ghoulish, in my opinion.
If Hamas is truly separate from the "Palestinian" people AND they want to avoid death and injury to their people when Israel retaliates, then the natural response would be is disavow Hamas, condemn the terror attack, then keep your mouth shut. But these people are doing exactly the opposite. They are not disavowing Hamas to any real extent, they are not condemning the attacks, and they are screaming their cause upon a platform that Hamas has given them.
I think most of the left simply does not understand how these Jihadists think. They want to bait Israel into a bloody invasion. What they ultimately want is a pan-Arab war against Israel that leaves each and every Jew there dead. Hamas does not care how many of the "Palestinian" people die. To them, they die for a greater cause. It is almost as if Hamas believes it is doing those people in Gaza a favor in sacrificing them because they will be dying for Allah and, therefore, hastening their journey to Jew-hater heaven. The leftists are assisting them in Jihad by pumping up anti-Jewish sentiment. Moreover, 99% of such advocacy is based upon lies, mistruths, deceptions, and misinformation. But, you know, when you are doing God's work, you will do whatever to reach the end result you seek. In this case it is Allah's work, and the Jihadists will do whatever it takes to bring about their sought after Islamic Revolution.
