Why in spite of Trump's negative characteristics...people like me and this guy like what he's doing!

[healthmyths]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

 

[Jackson]

Healthmyths, thank you for that clip. What a stark difference between Trump and Obama. Trump clearly is working for all of the people in the US...that makes him to mist effective president in modern hystory.

Just for emphasis sake, let me parse the important quotes made by Obama again...


"If someone wants to build a coal plant, let them - it will just bankrupt them"
B. Obama

"I prefer higher gas prices"
B. Obama

"And when you (Brazil) start selling (oil), we want to be your best customer."
B.Obama

"Under my plan of cap and trade, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."
B. Obama

Obama said he favored "Single payer health system."

"Manufacturing jobs are not coming back."
B. Obama

And you preferred that president over Donald Trump? Astonishing. Just astonishing.

 

[Windparadox]

`
All his characteristics are negative.
`

 

[amethyst]

Shock Poll: Almost 100% of Respondents Agree the Media Is Sabotaging Trump

• • 71 percent will strongly back his reelection, 23.2 percent will “likely” back reelection.
  • 93.6 percent support Trump’s newly aggressive anti-terror plan in Afghanistan.
  • 56 percent “strongly believe” Trump is fulfilling his campaign promises, 38.9 “mostly” agree.
  • 84.4 percent do not believe Trump colluded with Russia in the 2016 election.
  • 86.3 percent back Trump’s threat to shut down the government over border wall funding.

And most dramatic of all: 99.92 percent agree that the media is out to get President Trump.

 

[Jackson]

I believe you were disengenuous for failing to note this was apoll of senior citizens.

This could result in a GOP movement to get the seniors to the polls or seeing that they fill in and mail their absentee ballots in.

 

[bullwinkle]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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Healthmyths, thanks for listing what you like about Trump's leadership. I respect your faith in him. However, I have none...whatsoever.

Obama did NOT say he or the government would bankrupt anyone trying to build a coal plant. Read it again. He compared it to building a buggy whip factory or a Polaroid camera store.

I would question that Obama said he wants higher gas prices, or at the very least the context your link presents.

I don't understand much about single-payer healthcare or how it would work, except that it would save businesses a bundle I think, or those that cover bennies, that is. But that outline is over my head and I have no idea how it would work.

Manufacturing jobs? Manufacturers are still leaving our shores. So far we have gains and losses and I don't know how equal they are.

EPA rules/standards are curtailing energy production of coal-fired electric plants? Haven't you heard? Energy companies are phasing out coal. And you know, I think you must be young, because you place money over your health and the health of your children..and mine. That kind of talk usually is reserved for the 10' tall and bulletproof going-to-live-forever bunch. When the young man from the audience whose 'life was saved' is a lucky one. His job just may last his lifetime. But one guy out of many thousands and their collateral businesses is not a victory.We will need coal in smaller and smaller quantities going forward.

Pipeline promises a grand total of 35 permanent jobs. Until a break of course.

So the Boeing battle is over!

Capital gains..above my pay grade. I don't own stocks.

healthmyths, I do not claim to know more or better than you. But I do think my doubts, coupled with a fear of whim-based actions and lots of empty promises, are any less valid either.

 

[Jackson]

I was listening to his speech when he said he would bankrupt any coal plant. Nothing about a buggy whip factory.

 

[bullwinkle]

Healthmyths, thank you for that clip. What a stark difference between Trump and Obama. Trump clearly is working for all of the people in the US...that makes him to mist effective president in modern hystory.

Just for emphasis sake, let me parse the important quotes made by Obama again...


"If someone wants to build a coal plant, let them - it will just bankrupt them"
B. Obama

"I prefer higher gas prices"
B. Obama

"And when you (Brazil) start selling (oil), we want to be your best customer."
B.Obama

"Under my plan of cap and trade, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."
B. Obama

Obama said he favored "Single payer health system."

"Manufacturing jobs are not coming back."
B. Obama

And you preferred that president over Donald Trump? Astonishing. Just astonishing.

I believe you were disengenuous for failing to note this was apoll of senior citizens.

This could result in a GOP movement to get the seniors to the polls or seeing that they fill in and mail their absentee ballots in.

Association of Mature American Citizens - Wikipedia

 

[Jackson]

Healthmyths, thank you for that clip. What a stark difference between Trump and Obama. Trump clearly is working for all of the people in the US...that makes him to mist effective president in modern hystory.

Just for emphasis sake, let me parse the important quotes made by Obama again...


"If someone wants to build a coal plant, let them - it will just bankrupt them"
B. Obama

"I prefer higher gas prices"
B. Obama

"And when you (Brazil) start selling (oil), we want to be your best customer."
B.Obama

"Under my plan of cap and trade, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."
B. Obama

Obama said he favored "Single payer health system."

"Manufacturing jobs are not coming back."
B. Obama

And you preferred that president over Donald Trump? Astonishing. Just astonishing.

I believe you were disengenuous for failing to note this was apoll of senior citizens.

This could result in a GOP movement to get the seniors to the polls or seeing that they fill in and mail their absentee ballots in.

Association of Mature American Citizens - Wikipedia

I don't deny such a group exists. Just that Amethyst's post did not make it clear that it was not general population poll, but rather just senior citizens.

 

[healthmyths]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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Healthmyths, thanks for listing what you like about Trump's leadership. I respect your faith in him. However, I have none...whatsoever.

Obama did NOT say he or the government would bankrupt anyone trying to build a coal plant. Read it again. He compared it to building a buggy whip factory or a Polaroid camera store.

I would question that Obama said he wants higher gas prices, or at the very least the context your link presents.

I don't understand much about single-payer healthcare or how it would work, except that it would save businesses a bundle I think, or those that cover bennies, that is. But that outline is over my head and I have no idea how it would work.

Manufacturing jobs? Manufacturers are still leaving our shores. So far we have gains and losses and I don't know how equal they are.

EPA rules/standards are curtailing energy production of coal-fired electric plants? Haven't you heard? Energy companies are phasing out coal. And you know, I think you must be young, because you place money over your health and the health of your children..and mine. That kind of talk usually is reserved for the 10' tall and bulletproof going-to-live-forever bunch. When the young man from the audience whose 'life was saved' is a lucky one. His job just may last his lifetime. But one guy out of many thousands and their collateral businesses is not a victory.We will need coal in smaller and smaller quantities going forward.

Pipeline promises a grand total of 35 permanent jobs. Until a break of course.

So the Boeing battle is over!

Capital gains..above my pay grade. I don't own stocks.

healthmyths, I do not claim to know more or better than you. But I do think my doubts, coupled with a fear of whim-based actions and lots of empty promises, are any less valid either.

Well for one thing YOU really should following the links that I provided as I don't make these statements up.
He said he'd not care if the companies went bankrupt! No president should EVER take that stance. The minimum he could if Obama was economically intelligent would
be to fund research into MAKING coal less pollution! But no. He and other idiots spent over
Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion in the hole!
Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds

Oh and you idiots that argued against the Keystone pipeline???
Are you so mathematically challenged that you'd RATHER have 1 million barrel oil tanker per day risking shipwreck in the area known as the most ship wreck prone straits in the Northwest versus 700 barrels traveling one mile over the ground? Consider which would destroy more of the environment?
1 million barrels traveling one mile in the straits in the northwest endangering all the coastlines OR
700 barrels traveling ONE over land?
Do you and your environmentally CHALLENGED people comprehend the difference?
David Mosley, public affairs specialist for the U.S. Coast Guard in Alaska, says that the thousands of ships that already navigate its waters each year face "winter hurricanes" with 40-foot seas and 100-knot winds that appear with little advanced notice. In a typical year, at least one ship gets into trouble.
"A vessel will have some sort of mechanical or physical issue that then puts them at the mercy of the weather and the waves."
The Environmental Dangers of Not Building Keystone XL
Or
700 barrels traveling one mile through the Keystone pipeline that joins more than 185,000 miles of liquid petroleum pipelines, nearly 320,000 miles of gas transmission pipelines, and more than 2 million miles of gas distribution pipelines to safely and efficiently move energy and raw materials to fuel our nation's economic engine.
www.pipeline101.org/why-do-we-need-pipelines
The Keystone with 16 monitors per mile of the 1,179 mile route.. OR one monitor every 100 yards and
Keystone XL will use satellite technology to monitor 20,000 data points on the pipeline’s operating conditions.
http://keystone-xl.com/facts/myths-facts/#sthash.s5b7zRTS.dpuf
But you environmentalists evidently wanted another Exxon Valdez and the dangerous waste of 1,000 of square miles of the above waters.

"Capital gains..above your pay grade"????? Do you have any 401ks where you work?
It is JUST common sense. If you tax peoples gains they make at 35% then they won't be able to either
a) waste the money THEY would have because it is less than 20% or a savings of 15%.
So what would these evil people with MORE money do ? Geez people like you I honestly believe think "people above your pay grade"
A) HIDE the savings under their mattress or B) bury in the backyard. IS THAT what YOU THINK????

I could go on but that one statement is so indicative of people with very little common sense.

And your really ignorant statement "I don't understand much about single-payer healthcare or how it would work,
Well for one thing following you and Obama's stupidity it would cost:
A) 1,400 health insurance companies going out of business!
B) They pay over $100 billion in Federal/STATE/ Local taxes... TAXES YOU would have to make up then!
C) They employ over 450,000 people. Where would these people go?

And YES I am an expert on health care finances. Every day a business I have is asked over 10,000 times health care related questions.
So I understand that the SINGLE Payer concept MIGHT work fine for Iowa or for other states BUT it is NOT just as a lot of so-called universal solutions
work for ALL 50 states. The USA is too diverse and too big.
One other point regarding "single payer"... are you aware that most "single payer" government plans that are successful are in communist countries?
Would you favor that? See in those countries the government TELLS you how many kids YOU can have! Will tell you that your costs of health care will
be too much if you have health expenses that are more than the government wants to pay.
Simple as that.
Finally Obama's LIE about 46 million uninsured??? Here READ why that was so deceitful that the architect of ACA said and I quote:
"And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass
Are you telling me you are part of that group considered by Jonathan Gruber as the "stupid" group?
AGAIN following the links... and just use common sense!

 

[forkup]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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I very much suspect that you like Trump not because some higher perceived loyalty to the working class, but rather the fact that he seemingly confirms your dissatisfaction with politics in general and Democrats in particular. He has given you something that most politicians were never really capable of offering. The ILLUSION that complex issues are not complex at all but are rather a manifestation of lack of will. Take for instance coal. Coal employs a rather small portion of the populace.The use of coal has numerous drawbacks especially environmental, yet you applaud the success of a couple of thousand people at the expense of long term health and environmental issues. To you it's nothing more than a simple solution to a complex problem that, what you consider the elitist Obama didn't want to do.

 

[longknife]

`
All his characteristics are negative.
`

You really can't deal with it, can you?

He openly admits he's not a politicians and it's exactly why so many voted to elect him. And why so many thousands turn out every time he holds a gathering.

And Obozo could only get 750 to turn out.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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I fundamentally disagree with him on nearly every economic policy.

 

[gipper]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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I fundamentally disagree with him on nearly every economic policy.

And yet the economy is humming.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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I fundamentally disagree with him on nearly every economic policy.

And yet the economy is humming.

Amazing, huh? Who would have thought that Obama was dead wrong on everything and if we got some one in the White House that actually wanted America to prosper, we would?

Trump needs to keep repealing Obama’s regulations and he also needs to cut the budget and elimanatr hundreds of thousands of federal jobs.

He is off to a great start!

I believe we can not only have a budget surplus, we can start paying down the debt.

We should cut the US budget by 5% per year every year that Trump has left in office.

 

[Timmy]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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People like you are meatheads who buy into his bullshit and Fall for propaganda memes.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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People like you are meatheads who buy into his bullshit and Fall for propaganda memes.

Exactly.

Like the OK sign meaning WHITE POWER.

Only fuckig idiots fall for that kind of shit....I agree.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Why would any President want to bankrupt American businesses? Would Donald want to do that? Donald would never do that. Everyone knows that Donald wants nothing but continued prosperity and longevity for Harley Davidson, Amazon, Apple, Nordstrom's, Macy's, the NFL, the New York Times, Politico, Washington Post, and others.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Why would any President want to bankrupt American businesses? Would Donald want to do that? Donald would never do that. Everyone knows that Donald wants nothing but continued prosperity and longevity for Harley Davidson, Amazon, Apple, Nordstrom's, Macy's, the NFL, the New York Times, Politico, Washington Post, and others.

That’s good to hear. I would like to see those businesses to prosper as well, but if I don’t like the way a business is operated, I will choose to patronize competitors.

Then these businesses can win me back if they choose.

You listed businesses in very diverse industries. Your buddy Barry tried to bankrupt industries.

You know the difference, but you are being disingenuous.

 

[Dragonlady]

Just ONE action on the part of Trump and listen to this guy...

Trump Stops Rally To Call Coal Miner On Stage. Miner Says Trump Brought Him ‘Back To Life’

Then read what Obama said about this guy's livelihood!
Obama wanted to bankrupt companies like what this guy worked for!


What Trump did was NOT make or do idiocies like this!

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I fundamentally disagree with him on nearly every economic policy.

And yet the economy is humming.

That’s because Trump has goosed it with higher spending and a huge tax cut, all on borrowed funds.

You’d look good too if you went on a shopping spree, spent like a drunken sailor and maxed out your credit cards. But then the bill comes in and you start sobering up and realize it will take years to undo the damage you’ve done and pay off this money that you now owe. And since you took a big cut in income, it’s going to be really painful to cut back to the new level of your income.