Why have there not been successful peace negotiations?

I don't think you get it, the Palestinians are no longer expecting a Palestinian state. Might as well offer nothing now, it really doesn't matter.

Well if they don't want a state, why are they whining that Israel still rules the West Bank?
You make no sense

Haven't you figured out they've given up? They now know that the Jews are only playing, there was never any intention to allow a Palestinian state to be created since the right-wing theocrats took over the government in Israel.

You're right...... The Israelis aren't going to agree to boundaries that the Arabs refused to recognize, leave E. Jerusalem where their Religious Sites are, or allow Israel to eventually become an annex to " Palestine" The " Palestinian state" is DOA ! :D
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.

But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.

But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.

Demonizing the natives is as old as colonialism itself. They are always backward, violent, savages, blah, blah, blah. Of course "terrorists" is the current name calling fad.

Whenever I hear demonizing, I just file it in the horse shit drawer.
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.

But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.

Demonizing the natives is as old as colonialism itself. They are always backward, violent, savages, blah, blah, blah. Of course "terrorists" is the current name calling fad.

Whenever I hear demonizing, I just file it in the horse shit drawer.

We already know that you can't handle the fact that Hamas, the group of rag tag Islamists that you support, is a terrorist organization.
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.

But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.

Demonizing the natives is as old as colonialism itself. They are always backward, violent, savages, blah, blah, blah. Of course "terrorists" is the current name calling fad.

Whenever I hear demonizing, I just file it in the horse shit drawer.

95% of my horse shit drawer is filled with crap that came from you...
 
But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.

Demonizing the natives is as old as colonialism itself. They are always backward, violent, savages, blah, blah, blah. Of course "terrorists" is the current name calling fad.

Whenever I hear demonizing, I just file it in the horse shit drawer.

We already know that you can't handle the fact that Hamas, the group of rag tag Islamists that you support, is a terrorist organization.

We already know that he can't handle the fact that there will never be a " Palestinian state" that they would accept short of total capitulation by Israel which will never happen :lol:
 
So, not only do the Palestinians have to accept 10% of the land they once lived on they also have to accept Jewish settlers which means that the Israelis will want to maintain soldiers in Palestine to protect said Jews.

You have to admit they are clever, turning it all around to make it appear that it is simply the Arabs being racists never admitting that preventing the right of return to people whose ancestors had lived on the land for two thousand years while allowing Jews to immigrate freely is the actual racist policy.

The offer was practically the entire West Bank. You don't get it do you??
Had he accepted the deal, there would be peace and the Palestinians would have their own state.
You guys ALWAYS make some bullshit excuse for why the Palestinians and frankly, the world is watching them turn down every offer.

Why should the Palestinians beg for a little piece of a fake state defined by Israel?

The Palestinians are pursuing their rights. Their state will follow. Not one defined by Israel but one defined by international law.
 
The successful formula begins with (1) Arabs acknowledge before the entire world they have lost Palestine by combat of arms and (2) Arabs acknowledge they will love their children more than death.

That would be a good start.

But isn't acquisition of territory by war a crime according to International Law? Do you want them to accuse the Jews of a war crime?

Do you really believe that Arabs (Christian and Muslim) love death more than their children, or would you not rather look into it and realize it is propaganda used to demonize non-Jews? Do you really believe all that propaganda designed to demonize a people. The Nazis used the same technique to demonize the Jews.

Acquisition of territory is allowed if won in a war of defense, which Israel did. Had Israel not been attacked and Jordan heeded Israel's pleas not to join in the attack, then Jordan will see be in control of the West Bank.

And yes, the Palestinians love death.

 
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So, not only do the Palestinians have to accept 10% of the land they once lived on they also have to accept Jewish settlers which means that the Israelis will want to maintain soldiers in Palestine to protect said Jews.

You have to admit they are clever, turning it all around to make it appear that it is simply the Arabs being racists never admitting that preventing the right of return to people whose ancestors had lived on the land for two thousand years while allowing Jews to immigrate freely is the actual racist policy.

The offer was practically the entire West Bank. You don't get it do you??
Had he accepted the deal, there would be peace and the Palestinians would have their own state.
You guys ALWAYS make some bullshit excuse for why the Palestinians and frankly, the world is watching them turn down every offer.

Why should the Palestinians beg for a little piece of a fake state defined by Israel?

The Palestinians are pursuing their rights. Their state will follow. Not one defined by Israel but one defined by international law.

How is that a little piece?? Do you really think they are going to ever get offered more than that?? Wake up, it's NEVER going to happen.
As long as they keep rejecting offers, nothing will follow, and rightfully so..
 
The offer was practically the entire West Bank. You don't get it do you??
Had he accepted the deal, there would be peace and the Palestinians would have their own state.
You guys ALWAYS make some bullshit excuse for why the Palestinians and frankly, the world is watching them turn down every offer.

Why should the Palestinians beg for a little piece of a fake state defined by Israel?

The Palestinians are pursuing their rights. Their state will follow. Not one defined by Israel but one defined by international law.

How is that a little piece?? Do you really think they are going to ever get offered more than that?? Wake up, it's NEVER going to happen.
As long as they keep rejecting offers, nothing will follow, and rightfully so..

The Palestinian can talk about " International Law" all he wants . Even the Arab League concedes that Israel is never going to allow " Right of Return" which would destroy the Jewish State and annex Israel to " Palestine. " :D
 
Why should the Palestinians beg for a little piece of a fake state defined by Israel?

The Palestinians are pursuing their rights. Their state will follow. Not one defined by Israel but one defined by international law.

same reason jews no longer live in europe. there was a war. jews got screwed. you fighting for my right of return to belarus since my family was displaced by pogroms?

didn't think so.

they can always bother jordan since they were transjordanian bedouins.

have a good day.
 
No justice - no peace.

You will not hear justice cross the lips of any of the phonies in the so called peace process.

if you are not listening and dismiss them as phonies, how will you help in the formation of any peace process.

You are the problem. You off handed reject those involved and what they say. You are the one not giving peace a chance.

Is your hate so great that you are being consumed by it?
 
No justice - no peace.

You will not hear justice cross the lips of any of the phonies in the so called peace process.

if you are not listening and dismiss them as phonies, how will you help in the formation of any peace process.

You are the problem. You off handed reject those involved and what they say. You are the one not giving peace a chance.

Is your hate so great that you are being consumed by it?

How can the so called peace process succeed? They keep repeating the same narrative over and over since it failed in 1937.
 
No justice - no peace.

You will not hear justice cross the lips of any of the phonies in the so called peace process.

if you are not listening and dismiss them as phonies, how will you help in the formation of any peace process.

You are the problem. You off handed reject those involved and what they say. You are the one not giving peace a chance.

Is your hate so great that you are being consumed by it?

How can the so called peace process succeed? They keep repeating the same narrative over and over since it failed in 1937.

and hate mongers have been spouting the same rhetoric and libel since 1918, actually long than that
 
The problem at the heart of the conflict is the obsession with a piece of land by both sides.
 
if you are not listening and dismiss them as phonies, how will you help in the formation of any peace process.

You are the problem. You off handed reject those involved and what they say. You are the one not giving peace a chance.

Is your hate so great that you are being consumed by it?

How can the so called peace process succeed? They keep repeating the same narrative over and over since it failed in 1937.

and hate mongers have been spouting the same rhetoric and libel since 1918, actually long than that

Really? Like what?
 
The Palestinian can talk about " International Law" all he wants . Even the Arab League concedes that Israel is never going to allow " Right of Return" which would destroy the Jewish State and annex Israel to " Palestine. "

Why wouldn't it?
Its the right thing to do. Just because Israel wants their farms and lands it doesn't mean it deserves them.

For example, Israel is still getting money as reparations for acts against individuals in WWII. Individuals are still getting back artwork, which was stolen from their families in WWII, and which have since been circulated on the world market.

It seems to me that unless Israel will find a way to compensate these families for what it stole, it will have to return the land. The long arm of the law will catch up with it.
 

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