Why Do Palestinians Lie About Wanting Peace? And Two States?

[montelatici]

The real Nazis were German and the ZioNazis, like you, Hoss and others, assumed their role of sustaining group superiority over people you can oppress.

 

[Roudy]

Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism and Arab Islamic Nationalism. Their founder was a Nazi who went around killing Jews and tens of thousands of Christians. We've been through this before but you like egg on your face so here it is again, Mr Muslim convert posing as a Christian Catholic:

Hitler's Mufti | Catholic Answers

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

Revered in some circles today as one of the fathers of modern radical Islam, al-Husseini has been the subject of a number of modern studies. Scholars such as David Dalin, John Rothmann, Chuck Morse, and others have courageously brought al-Husseini’s actions to light. "Hitler’s Mufti," as many have called him, had a direct hand in some of the darkest moments of the Holocaust, the slaughter of tens of thousands of Christians, and the formation of some of the most hate-filled generations of modern history. Al-Husseini is a testament to the way that evil finds evil.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Where is the lie?

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

 

[Hossfly]

Saying they want peace. The article says what they want and it ain't peace. Saying they want a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and run into the sea. So don't say they do.

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

Of course, Tinmore. To counteract your Palestinian terrorist propaganda.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Where do they say they don't want peace?

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

Of course, Tinmore. To counteract your Palestinian terrorist propaganda.

Is that all you have?

 

[montelatici]

Can you point to any of this "Palestinian propaganda" that Tinmore is posting?

 

[Hossfly]

Stop playing dumb, Tinny. Read the third paragraph in the OP.

OK, so?

Was terrorism on the ballot?

Terrorism is in their blood, Bubba. In their Genes. In their psyche. Stop playing games. I don't have the patience of RoccoR

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda crap?

Of course, Tinmore. To counteract your Palestinian terrorist propaganda.

Is that all you have?

Say goodnight Gracie. Time for old goats to hit the hay.

 

[Hossfly]

Can you point to any of this "Palestinian propaganda" that Tinmore is posting?

Christ! Another one! Like pesky roaches. Someone turn on the lights.

 

[depotoo]

Unfortunately, not true, if you were to actually study the history way back, you might realize it.

If people are homeless then there is a problem.

They're not homeless. They also have an entire welfare agency dedicated to their exclusive use, abuse and fraud.

They need a little patch of land to call their own. I really think theyve been inundated with a complicated civilisation which they dont need. Most English people are the same. Australians, when left alone, just work quietly and want zero conflict. im sure Palestinians are the same.

 

[montelatici]

Can you point to any of this "Palestinian propaganda" that Tinmore is posting?

Christ! Another one! Like pesky roaches. Someone turn on the lights.

The little genocidal psychopath now calls people he doesn't like roaches. You are so cool.

 

[Hollie]

The Pal'istanians lie about wanting peace because they're not held accountable for their lies.

The PA's Billion Dollar Fraud - PMW Bulletins

The PA's billion dollar fraud

The Palestinian Authority is deceiving Western donor countries,
falsely claiming to have stopped paying salaries to terrorist prisoners, and reaping more than a billion dollars/year in return.


It is an unfortunate circumstance of the western world allowing the kuffar money spigot to flow while ignoring that the welfare fraud syndicate run by Islamic terrorists has a free hand to continue

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[docmauser1]

If people are homeless then there is a problem.

Till they start building ones, they'll have their problem, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

They need a little patch of land to call their own. ...

They have a little patch, but they want someone else's little patch and EBT cards too, of course.

... Australians, when left alone, just work quietly and want zero conflict. im sure Palestinians are the same.

So, palistanians have (at least now) two choices - either becoming australians, or just getting a life and a job in their current domicile, of course.

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.​

Indeed, and they are correct.

 

[Hollie]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.​

Indeed, and they are correct.

Yours is certainly a compilation of Arab-Moslem cliches and slogans. It mirrors the islamo-supremacist blathering one can find coming from any madrassah.

 

[docmauser1]

The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.

Arabs excercised their self-determination to be indeterminate, because they have never been a nation, and because they like it too, of course.

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

Mr. Nakhleh was an interesting person.

I first met Issa Nakhleh in the 1980s while he was still busily researching for his two volume "Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem". I learnt first hand of his personal history, a palestinian, a refugee, a man who had lost everything he had had. His house, his law office, his apartment house in Jerusalem and a banana plantation were, as he describes "usurped by the Zionists and Israeli war criminals ". A man's roots had been cut.

Issa fought all his life for a peaceful resolution to the many problems facing the Palestinian people, who are scattered all over the globe today. In fact, after he told me his personal history, I was surprised how peaceful yet at the same time determined he went after his business of documenting the history of his people, insisting that the political process, including especially the United Nations, should ultimately give the Palestinians back their homeland. Writes Mr. Nakhleh: The greatest Zionist and Israeli crime against me and six million other Palestinians is that they have deprived us of living in our ancestral homeland, Palestine, as citizens of our independent undivided Palestinian State.

Start of: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem​

 

[Hollie]

et al,

I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Periodically --- there are short-term Arab Palestinians thoughts expressed that they might support a two-State Solution. But, in the long-term, the political positions they consistently return to are:

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

In conclusion, the Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to stress the following: (b) The Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense.
​

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

NO peace with Israel
NO recognition of Israel
NO negotiations with Israel
​

• Palestinian National Covenant, the official charter of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (1968)

Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void.
​

• HAMAS Covenant (1988)
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
​

• Hamas’ political thought and stances in light of the Arab uprisings; By Khalid Mishaal (2012)
First: Hamas’s Vision for the Palestinian Issue

Palestine, from its river to its sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinians; their homeland, and their legitimate right. We will not relinquish an inch or any part of it -for any reason or under any circumstances and pressures.​

Yes, while there are quite short moments in time, when Arab Palestinian Voice (or another) might express some interest in the Two-State Solution, the policy expressed by the Arab Palestinian --- consistently over time --- is that they oppose any such move. For the Arab Palestinian, for nearly, seven decades (1948-2016), is an "All or Nothing" position. Either they get to impose Arab Majority Rule and sovereignty over all the Mandate era Palestine, or they continue the use of force to achieve their political ends.

Most Respectfully,
R

• Statement of 6 February 1948 Communicated to the Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee
A/AC.21/10 16 February 1948

Mr. Nakhleh was an interesting person.

I first met Issa Nakhleh in the 1980s while he was still busily researching for his two volume "Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem". I learnt first hand of his personal history, a palestinian, a refugee, a man who had lost everything he had had. His house, his law office, his apartment house in Jerusalem and a banana plantation were, as he describes "usurped by the Zionists and Israeli war criminals ". A man's roots had been cut.

Issa fought all his life for a peaceful resolution to the many problems facing the Palestinian people, who are scattered all over the globe today. In fact, after he told me his personal history, I was surprised how peaceful yet at the same time determined he went after his business of documenting the history of his people, insisting that the political process, including especially the United Nations, should ultimately give the Palestinians back their homeland. Writes Mr. Nakhleh: The greatest Zionist and Israeli crime against me and six million other Palestinians is that they have deprived us of living in our ancestral homeland, Palestine, as citizens of our independent undivided Palestinian State.

Start of: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem​

I'm afraid the Arab-Moslem psyche is one that is forever consumed with lamenting what they lost due to their own incompetence and ineptitudes, what they couldn't achieve, errors on their part they will insist were and still are the the fault of the Great Satan™, The Zionist Entity™, the kuffar and other assortments of conspirators and co-conspirators.

It's a complete lack of ownership of their own mistakes, a lack of ability to be held accountable and a willingness / need to be the perpetual victim.

You would think that the money supplied by the kuffar which maintains the Pal'istanian welfare fraud would come with conditions. One of those conditions would be that the Arab-Moslem terrorists / whiners go to school in Hong Kong or South Korea and learn how success can be achieved in spite of hardships, with a willingness to succeed... and the lack of a retrograde politico-religious ideology that keeps one forever enslaved.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Pal'istanians lie about wanting peace because they're not held accountable for their lies.

The PA's Billion Dollar Fraud - PMW Bulletins

The PA's billion dollar fraud

The Palestinian Authority is deceiving Western donor countries,
falsely claiming to have stopped paying salaries to terrorist prisoners, and reaping more than a billion dollars/year in return.


It is an unfortunate circumstance of the western world allowing the kuffar money spigot to flow while ignoring that the welfare fraud syndicate run by Islamic terrorists has a free hand to continue

The PA is the foreign appointed oligarchs of Palestine. Oligarchs always suck the money while their people eat dirt.