Why do Democrats care more about Khashoggi than they did about Mollie Tibbetts?

[bripat9643]

The Ugly Terror Truth About Jamal Khashoggi

The media will always take the side of Islamists over non-Islamists. That’s why it bleeds for Khashoggi


Best buddies with Osama in school. Both joined the Muslim Brotherhood early on in life..........Both dreamed of an Islamic State......

Interviewed Osama in Afghanistan during the War with Russia..........later saying he told Osama that he was making a mistake with attacking America........not that he disagreed with Osama's views...........

He's not a great loss..........and it happened in Turkey........their problem.

The US supported bin Laden during the war with Russia
We looked at him as a freedom fighter

The US never supported bin Laden financially or verbally at any time.

We sure did
We supported the freedom fighters. Bin Laden was one of them
Reagan often praised them

Wrong. We never gave anything to bin Laden. We gave weapons and supplies to other freedom fighters, but not him.

 

[bripat9643]

We all know that Mollie Tibbets would never have been murdered if not for the deliberate decision by certain politicians not to enforce out immigration laws.

No we do not.

So you're saying that you're stupid?

I am saying you are as fuckiing stupid as they come. If you think you are going to bring illegal immigration to zero you are a fucking idiot. If you think you are going to bring single murderes to zero you are an idiot. If you can not see that state sponsered murder is a much larger thing to fear you are an idiot and in real danger of getting put on ignore.

We won't bring it to absolute zero, but we can bring it less than 5% of what it is now, which is good enough.

I have no idea what it means to "bring single murderes [sic] to zero," but we can reduce murders by illegals by 95%.

State sponsored murder by out government would be something to fear, as when Obama executed an American in Yemen, but we aren't responsible for resolving all the crimes by foreign governments against their own citizens. Stalin murdered tens of millions of his own citizens, and morons like you didn't give a damn. The left covered up Stalin's crimes and made excuses for him.

Ya show me the studies and costs. We can certainly with hold support of governemtns that do such things. Slalin murdering millions is state supported murder and support of my position not your.

The studies and the costs have been debated ad nauseum in this forum. There is little doubt that building the wall and limiting illegal immigration to 5% of what it is now is feasible and cost effective. Illegals cost this country over $100 billion every year. That doesn't include prosecuting all their murders, rapes and robberies.

 

[bripat9643]

WTF....haha, are you serious?
That’s the spin?
You sure you want to roll with that shit?

Freedom of the press is vital to a free country.

Yes, I know you don't really want a free country but the rest of us do.

What does this have to do with freedom of the press in the United States?

You don't think tRump's reaction to the murder of a journalist has anything to do with freedom of the press in the United States?

Not the murder of a foreign journalist by his own government. Stalin murdered thousands of journalists. I don't recall any leftists whining about that. Saddam murdered journalists. ISIS murdered journalists. Egypt murdered journalists. Libya murdered journalists. South Africa murdered journalists. Why wouldn't all you douchebag snowflakes whining then?

First, being concerned about freedom of the press and the murder of journalists is not "whining". Second, I don't think anyone was ok with those either

None of you snowflakes gives a damn. You're only whining as a way to attack Trump. No one is fooled.

 

[bripat9643]

The Liberal media and Democrats are calling for Saudi heads....they’re absolutely livid and outraged about this FOREIGNERS death which happened on FOREIGN soil.
Remember, the Tibbetts murder couldn’t be swept under the rug fast enough by the same groups. Weird huh?
I hope Republican politicians running for office are paying attention and adding shit like this to their campaign narratives.

Tibbets was a tragedy for a family.
Kashoggi is a tragedy for the nation.

Not for this nation. It may be a tragedy for Saudi Arabia, but that's none of our business.

Bullshit. He was an American resident working for an American media company. What's worse is we know who is responsible and we are gonna let him get away with it. Mostly because he's tRump's pal.

The 9/11 hijackers were American residents.

 

[Crepitus]

Freedom of the press is vital to a free country.

Yes, I know you don't really want a free country but the rest of us do.

What does this have to do with freedom of the press in the United States?

You don't think tRump's reaction to the murder of a journalist has anything to do with freedom of the press in the United States?

Not the murder of a foreign journalist by his own government. Stalin murdered thousands of journalists. I don't recall any leftists whining about that. Saddam murdered journalists. ISIS murdered journalists. Egypt murdered journalists. Libya murdered journalists. South Africa murdered journalists. Why wouldn't all you douchebag snowflakes whining then?

First, being concerned about freedom of the press and the murder of journalists is not "whining". Second, I don't think anyone was ok with those either

None of you snowflakes gives a damn. You're only whining as a way to attack Trump. No one is fooled.

Do not project your dumbass uneducated self-centered conservative opinions on to me.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong. We never gave anything to bin Laden. We gave weapons and supplies to other freedom fighters, but not him.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia

The Central Intelligence Agency helped Osama bin Laden build an underground camp at Khost, which bin Laden used to train Mujahideen soldiers.[4] The United States would later attack this camp when bin Laden was held responsible for the United States embassy bombings in Africa.

In a 2004 article entitled "Al-Qaeda's origins and links", the BBC wrote:

During the anti-Soviet war Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.[5]

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the '80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage war against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan."[6]

In conversation with former British Defence Secretary Michael Portillo, two-time Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was initially pro-American.[7] Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia, has also stated that bin Laden once expressed appreciation for the United States' help in Afghanistan. On CNN's Larry King program he said:[8]

Bandar bin Sultan: This is ironic. In the mid-'80s, if you remember, we and the United - Saudi Arabia and the United States were supporting the Mujahideen to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. He [Osama bin Laden] came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends, to help us against the atheists, he said the communists. Isn't it ironic?

Larry King: How ironic. In other words, he came to thank you for helping bring America to help him.

Bandar bin Sultan: Right.[9]




I'll just skip ahead to the parts that are not in dispute.

Sir Martin Ewans, noted that the Afghan Arabs "benefited indirectly from the CIA's funding, through the ISI and resistance organizations," [25] and that "it has been reckoned that as many as 35,000 'Arab-Afghans' may have received military training in Pakistan at an estimated cost of $800 million in the years up to and including 1988." [26]

Some of the CIA's greatest Afghan beneficiaries were Arabist commanders such as Jalaluddin Haqqani and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar who were key allies of Bin Laden over many years.[27][28] Haqqani—one of Bin Laden's closest associates in the 1980s—received direct cash payments from CIA agents, without the mediation of the ISI (Charlie Wilson described Haqqani as "goodness personified"). This independent source of funding gave Haqqani disproportionate influence over the mujahideen, and helped Bin Laden develop his base.[29]

Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, an associate of Bin Laden's, was given his visas to enter the US on four separate occasions by the CIA.[30] Rahman was recruiting Arabs to fight in the Soviet-Afghan war, and Egyptian officials testified that the CIA actively assisted him. Rahman was a co-plotter of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.[31][32]

One allegation not denied by the US government is that the U.S. Army enlisted and trained a former Egyptian soldier named Ali Mohamed, and that it knew Ali occasionally took trips to Afghanistan, where he claimed to fight Russians.[33][34][page needed]According to journalist Lawrence Wright who interviewed U.S. officials about Ali, the Egyptian did tell his Army superiors he was fighting in Afghanistan, but did not tell them he was training other Afghan Arabs or writing a manual from what he had learned from the US Army Special Forces. Wright also reports that the CIA failed to inform other US agencies that it had learned Ali, who was a member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, was an anti-American spy.[34][page needed]

 

[ThisIsMe]

Mollie Tibbets was not targeted for murder because she criticized someone in power

Mollie Tibbets was the victim of a crime. Thousands of Americans are murdered every year, most dont even recieve a mention. Against her families wishes, the right politicized her case to fuel their anti-immigrant crusade. They dont care about her murder. To them she is a political rallying point.

The same could be said about khashoggi. The left doesn't care about this story either, its just a story to take a jab at trump...

 

[ThisIsMe]

Mollie Tibbets was not targeted for murder because she criticized someone in power

Okay, I think I’m getting it now...so it’s not the life lost that has you concerned? It’s a bunch of weird trivial shit surrounding the murder that has you super spun up?

No, we are concerned with justice

In Mollie Tibbets case, the murderer was caught and Justice was served.

In Khashoggis situation, it does not appear to be the case

Why are you changing the narrative? The post isn't about justice of a murder victim, it's about how people are more outraged by a foreigner, in a foreign country, killed by other foreigners, as opposed to an american, killed in America, by a foreigner.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Mollie Tibbets was not targeted for murder because she criticized someone in power

Who cares......for a thousand, Alex.

The OP cares
He asked why there is not the same level of outrage over Mollie Tibbets

People get outraged over abuse of power by a government. When it includes kidnap, torture and murder......it becomes international news

The murderer of Mollie Tibbets was captured and will face decades in prison

It looks like those who ordered the killing of Khashoggi will get off Scott free......hence the outrage

No worries, the murderers got away with killing four US citizens in benghazi. Again, the lefts unrighteous indignation falls on deaf ears.

Libyan militia leader gets 22-year sentence in Benghazi attacks that killed ...

Accused Benghazi ringleader convicted on terrorism charges in 2012 attacks that killed U.S. ambassador

Libyan kills 4 people and gets 22 years? That's justice? If an american did that it would be life without parole, or execution.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Mollie Tibbets was not targeted for murder because she criticized someone in power

Mollie Tibbets was the victim of a crime. Thousands of Americans are murdered every year, most dont even recieve a mention. Against her families wishes, the right politicized her case to fuel their anti-immigrant crusade. They dont care about her murder. To them she is a political rallying point.

Agree
The outrage has subsided because the man who did it will face justice
Republicans have used her murder to generate fear and hatred against illegal immigrants

And the left is using khashoggi to incite hatred of trump. It's all the same playbook, just a different page.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Who is Mollie Tibbetts?

I’ll play along.
Killing of Mollie Tibbetts - Wikipedia

The notion that Democrats care more about the death of one person as opposed to another is a ridiculous lie.

Maybe not, but when political hay can be made, they will certainly shout louder for one over another.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The Liberal media and Democrats are calling for Saudi heads....they’re absolutely livid and outraged about this FOREIGNERS death which happened on FOREIGN soil.
Remember, the Tibbetts murder couldn’t be swept under the rug fast enough by the same groups. Weird huh?
I hope Republican politicians running for office are paying attention and adding shit like this to their campaign narratives.

Tibbets was a tragedy for a family.
Kashoggi is a tragedy for the nation.

WTF....haha, are you serious?
That’s the spin?
You sure you want to roll with that shit?

Your thread is a failed attempt to deflect from the fact that the Khashoggi murder was yet another Trump foreign policy debacle, exposing Trump’s disdain for journalists and their safety, and the right’s indifference toward the war on journalists.

That you would so exploit Mollie Tibbetts' death is another manifestation of the reprehensible right.

Khashoggi's alleged murder has nothing to do with President Trump or US foreign policy.

Khashoggi was a Saudi subject who passed away at the Saudi consulate in Turkey. Nothing at all about America, or President Trump.

Well, he was a Saudi refugee residing in America, working for an American news organization.

His KIDS are American citizens, therefore, the left believes khashoggi should have all of the rights and privileges of an American as well.


Where else do we see a push for this to happen?......

 

[danielpalos]

No we do not.

So you're saying that you're stupid?

I am saying you are as fuckiing stupid as they come. If you think you are going to bring illegal immigration to zero you are a fucking idiot. If you think you are going to bring single murderes to zero you are an idiot. If you can not see that state sponsered murder is a much larger thing to fear you are an idiot and in real danger of getting put on ignore.

We won't bring it to absolute zero, but we can bring it less than 5% of what it is now, which is good enough.

I have no idea what it means to "bring single murderes [sic] to zero," but we can reduce murders by illegals by 95%.

State sponsored murder by out government would be something to fear, as when Obama executed an American in Yemen, but we aren't responsible for resolving all the crimes by foreign governments against their own citizens. Stalin murdered tens of millions of his own citizens, and morons like you didn't give a damn. The left covered up Stalin's crimes and made excuses for him.

Ya show me the studies and costs. We can certainly with hold support of governemtns that do such things. Slalin murdering millions is state supported murder and support of my position not your.

The studies and the costs have been debated ad nauseum in this forum. There is little doubt that building the wall and limiting illegal immigration to 5% of what it is now is feasible and cost effective. Illegals cost this country over $100 billion every year. That doesn't include prosecuting all their murders, rapes and robberies.

A wall is not capitalism. It is socialism on a national basis.

 

[Dragonlady]

because she is white
....who cares if an ILLEGAL murders a WHITE American---we have to concentrate on foreigners

Aside from the fact that the two killings couldn't be more dissimilar, let's make a list:

1. Mollie Tibbets' killer was quickly apprehended immediately and is in jail awaiting trial. Mr. Khashoggi's killer will never face trial. Mollie Tibbets' wasn't a target, she was just a girl out jogging. Had she been killed by a white farm boy instead of an undocumented immigrant, none of you on the right would have known her name. You dont give a rat's ass about Mollie Tibbets. She was just someone you wanted to use as an anti-immigrant meme and her family shut you down for trying to do so.

2. Mr. Khashoggi was a journalist living in the United States and working for the Washington Post, who dared criticise the government of Saudi Arabia, and was killed on the orders of the Crown Prince. When the head of a government conspires to murder those who criticize them, the world is quite rightfully outraged. This has implications to peace in the Middle East, and our relationship going forward with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi's are learning that they have crossed several lines with a lot of countries and a lot of people, just not Donald Trump. But even Trump's staunchest Republican defenders (yes, Lindsay Graham, we mean you), have said this is WRONG.

3. When racist white supremacists try to turn the murder of a young girl into hate into a hate on immigrants manifesto, the world quite rightly ignores them.

 

[harmonica]

because she is white
....who cares if an ILLEGAL murders a WHITE American---we have to concentrate on foreigners

Aside from the fact that the two killings couldn't be more dissimilar, let's make a list:

1. Mollie Tibbets' killer was quickly apprehended immediately and is in jail awaiting trial. Mr. Khashoggi's killer will never face trial. Mollie Tibbets' wasn't a target, she was just a girl out jogging. Had she been killed by a white farm boy instead of an undocumented immigrant, none of you on the right would have known her name. You dont give a rat's ass about Mollie Tibbets. She was just someone you wanted to use as an anti-immigrant meme and her family shut you down for trying to do so.

2. Mr. Khashoggi was a journalist living in the United States and working for the Washington Post, who dared criticise the government of Saudi Arabia, and was killed on the orders of the Crown Prince. When the head of a government conspires to murder those who criticize them, the world is quite rightfully outraged. This has implications to peace in the Middle East, and our relationship going forward with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi's are learning that they have crossed several lines with a lot of countries and a lot of people, just not Donald Trump. But even Trump's staunchest Republican defenders (yes, Lindsay Graham, we mean you), have said this is WRONG.

3. When racist white supremacists try to turn the murder of a young girl into hate into a hate on immigrants manifesto, the world quite rightly ignores them.

so, of course white lives don't matter to you
real nice

 

[Thinker101]

Who is Mollie Tibbetts?

Guess you've been too busy coddling illegals to keep abreast of current events.

Guess you think nobody on the left cared about Tibbets, but her murderer was caught and will pay for his crime. American journalist living legally in our country Khashoggi's murderers are excused, praised and given military equipment and spare parts on contracts signed during the Obama admin. Do Republicans care about him? I haven't heard except for Graham and Corker. All this overlooking over equipment and spare parts SA cannot purchase from either Russia or China BTW because they wouldn't fit the existing materials. They need us more than we need them.

And if Hannity or Pirro ever goes offshore and gets chopped up, I'm pretty sure the Democrats would object to that too..on principal. America does not SELL it's people to Murder, Inc. Saudi Arabia!

True, he was caught and charged. Haven't heard anything about him being convicted. He has pled not guilty and his attorney, along with some of you loons, have painted him as an all American boy.
Attorney For Accused Murderer Of Mollie Tibbetts: He's An 'All-American Boy'

What the hell are you talking about that I, or anybody else, painted him as an all American boy. His attorney is doing the job he is required to do, and you know it will not work. Your implication that the Tibbets murderer will get off because you haven't heard any recent news is ludicrous.

WTF, having a sanctuary city, let alone sanctuary state, and releasing prisoners is what's fricken ludicrous.

 

[Lakhota]

Who is Mollie Tibbetts?

I’ll play along.
Killing of Mollie Tibbetts - Wikipedia

OK, I’ll play along..

Mollie Cecilia Tibbetts, a University of Iowa student, disappeared on July 18, 2018, while jogging near her home in Brooklyn, Iowa. After a month-long search, police identified 24-year-old Cristhian Bahena Rivera as a suspect using surveillance camera footage that showed his car following her on her jog. He led police to her body in a Poweshiek County cornfield on August 21 and was charged with first-degree murder.


Mollie Tibbets was murdered and her killer was captured and charged with first degree murder. There was no cover up, nobody is hiding the fact that she was indeed murdered, the murderer is not hiding behind high office and getting underlings to take the fall

Not the same.......See?

Thank you! End of story.

 

[BrokeLoser]

because she is white
....who cares if an ILLEGAL murders a WHITE American---we have to concentrate on foreigners

Aside from the fact that the two killings couldn't be more dissimilar, let's make a list:

1. Mollie Tibbets' killer was quickly apprehended immediately and is in jail awaiting trial. Mr. Khashoggi's killer will never face trial. Mollie Tibbets' wasn't a target, she was just a girl out jogging. Had she been killed by a white farm boy instead of an undocumented immigrant, none of you on the right would have known her name. You dont give a rat's ass about Mollie Tibbets. She was just someone you wanted to use as an anti-immigrant meme and her family shut you down for trying to do so.

2. Mr. Khashoggi was a journalist living in the United States and working for the Washington Post, who dared criticise the government of Saudi Arabia, and was killed on the orders of the Crown Prince. When the head of a government conspires to murder those who criticize them, the world is quite rightfully outraged. This has implications to peace in the Middle East, and our relationship going forward with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi's are learning that they have crossed several lines with a lot of countries and a lot of people, just not Donald Trump. But even Trump's staunchest Republican defenders (yes, Lindsay Graham, we mean you), have said this is WRONG.

3. When racist white supremacists try to turn the murder of a young girl into hate into a hate on immigrants manifesto, the world quite rightly ignores them.

See, you bleeding heart fools don’t even recognize the simplest shit.
Justice for victims doesn’t end with the apprehension of their perpetrator. Real justice includes society taking action to help prevent the same shit from happening to another person. You dumbmothafuckers never said a damn thing about tightening our border and eradicating illegals....in fact, you defended illegals....you filthy fucks honestly believe wetbacks belong here and have a right to be here. You chalked her murder up as just another day in the life. You pukes won’t get behind any action that would stop illegals and or lead to mass deportations. Imagine if groups of people refused to support aggressive legal action to stop drunk drivers.
rightwinger Lakhota

 

[Hellokitty]

The Liberal media and Democrats are calling for Saudi heads....they’re absolutely livid and outraged about this FOREIGNERS death which happened on FOREIGN soil.
Remember, the Tibbetts murder couldn’t be swept under the rug fast enough by the same groups. Weird huh?
I hope Republican politicians running for office are paying attention and adding shit like this to their campaign narratives.

Tibbets was a tragedy for a family.
Kashoggi is a tragedy for the nation.

Since he wasn't a US citizen or permeant US resident what nation are you speaking of?

 

[Dragonlady]

because she is white
....who cares if an ILLEGAL murders a WHITE American---we have to concentrate on foreigners

Aside from the fact that the two killings couldn't be more dissimilar, let's make a list:

1. Mollie Tibbets' killer was quickly apprehended immediately and is in jail awaiting trial. Mr. Khashoggi's killer will never face trial. Mollie Tibbets' wasn't a target, she was just a girl out jogging. Had she been killed by a white farm boy instead of an undocumented immigrant, none of you on the right would have known her name. You dont give a rat's ass about Mollie Tibbets. She was just someone you wanted to use as an anti-immigrant meme and her family shut you down for trying to do so.

2. Mr. Khashoggi was a journalist living in the United States and working for the Washington Post, who dared criticise the government of Saudi Arabia, and was killed on the orders of the Crown Prince. When the head of a government conspires to murder those who criticize them, the world is quite rightfully outraged. This has implications to peace in the Middle East, and our relationship going forward with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi's are learning that they have crossed several lines with a lot of countries and a lot of people, just not Donald Trump. But even Trump's staunchest Republican defenders (yes, Lindsay Graham, we mean you), have said this is WRONG.

3. When racist white supremacists try to turn the murder of a young girl into hate into a hate on immigrants manifesto, the world quite rightly ignores them.

so, of course white lives don't matter to you
real nice

because she is white
....who cares if an ILLEGAL murders a WHITE American---we have to concentrate on foreigners

Aside from the fact that the two killings couldn't be more dissimilar, let's make a list:

1. Mollie Tibbets' killer was quickly apprehended immediately and is in jail awaiting trial. Mr. Khashoggi's killer will never face trial. Mollie Tibbets' wasn't a target, she was just a girl out jogging. Had she been killed by a white farm boy instead of an undocumented immigrant, none of you on the right would have known her name. You dont give a rat's ass about Mollie Tibbets. She was just someone you wanted to use as an anti-immigrant meme and her family shut you down for trying to do so.

2. Mr. Khashoggi was a journalist living in the United States and working for the Washington Post, who dared criticise the government of Saudi Arabia, and was killed on the orders of the Crown Prince. When the head of a government conspires to murder those who criticize them, the world is quite rightfully outraged. This has implications to peace in the Middle East, and our relationship going forward with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi's are learning that they have crossed several lines with a lot of countries and a lot of people, just not Donald Trump. But even Trump's staunchest Republican defenders (yes, Lindsay Graham, we mean you), have said this is WRONG.

3. When racist white supremacists try to turn the murder of a young girl into hate into a hate on immigrants manifesto, the world quite rightly ignores them.

See, you bleeding heart fools don’t even recognize the simplest shit.
Justice for victims doesn’t end with the apprehension of their perpetrator. Real justice includes society taking action to help prevent the same shit from happening to another person. You dumbmothafuckers never said a damn thing about tightening our border and eradicating illegals....in fact, you defended illegals....you filthy fucks honestly believe wetbacks belong here and have a right to be here. You chalked her murder up as just another day in the life. You pukes won’t get behind any action that would stop illegals and or lead to mass deportations. Imagine if groups of people refused to support aggressive legal action to stop drunk drivers.
rightwinger Lakhota

Society has taken all of the action necessary in the case of Mollie's murder, unless you'd like to do some work on the toxic male culture that causes men to become enraged when a woman refuses their advances. Every time women bring this stuff up, we get mocked, so I gather the answer is "No".

Why is it that right wingers don't care when a woman is murdered by her spouse? Or when a woman is shot in a mass shooting by an angry white guy. Where is your outrage for the victim then? The ONLY deaths of young white women you care about are the ones you politicize, because you sure as shit aren't doing anything about the women who die by domestic violence, or the minority women who die.