Why Aren't American Progressives Migrating to Greece?

[Mr. Shaman]

If you think conservatives wish to secede then you've been living in a cave.

That's where Rick Perry has been hiding-out, during the daylight-hours????

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[Mr Natural]

If you think conservatives wish to secede then you've been living in a cave. The mantra "we're going to take our country back" has been echoing for the past year.

Back to where is the question.

Back to a society that is not based on entitlement leeching and an over bloated government

And when was that?

 

[DiamondDave]

Back to where is the question.

Back to a society that is not based on entitlement leeching and an over bloated government

And when was that?

Encyclopedia Smithsonian: American History Timeline

Maybe you should actually look back when government was small and intended to be small.. when we did not have forced welfare systems and high tax rates wasting trillions of citizen tax dollars

Unfortunately, when the big government power whores started putting this entitlement shit in place in attempts to hold on to power longer, it made it hard to get back out of government thanks to all the red tape their over bloated government created

 

[Defiant1]

Back to where is the question.

Back to a society that is not based on entitlement leeching and an over bloated government

And when was that?

Sometime prior to Lincoln violating the 10th amendment.

But with computers and high tech weapons.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I guess the Greeks, as Lady Thatcher said, "have run out of other people's money"

Ahhhh.... socialism.

The Greeks are behaving like a bunch of petulant children out shopping with Mom. They scream like two year olds that can't have any more candy. The fact that Mom has bills to pay is beyond their comprehension.

That's what you get when you create a society of petulant children. It's coming to a theater near you.... wait until people are told that EIC checks are no longer... that getting all your income tax payments back is no longer... that getting unemployment for 2 years is no longer... that working for 20 years and collecting a pension for 25+ is no longer... that collecting welfare for 3 generations is no longer... that "free healthcare" is no longer...

 

[Mr Natural]

Back to a society that is not based on entitlement leeching and an over bloated government

And when was that?

Encyclopedia Smithsonian: American History Timeline

Maybe you should actually look back when government was small and intended to be small.. when we did not have forced welfare systems and high tax rates wasting trillions of citizen tax dollars

Unfortunately, when the big government power whores started putting this entitlement shit in place in attempts to hold on to power longer, it made it hard to get back out of government thanks to all the red tape their over bloated government created

Maybe you should get yourself one of those Hot tub Time Machines and head back to that ideal Utopia you imagine.

 

[Mr Natural]

Back to a society that is not based on entitlement leeching and an over bloated government

And when was that?

Sometime prior to Lincoln violating the 10th amendment.

But with computers and high tech weapons.

Back to the 19th Century. What a great time to be alive!

 

[Si modo]

The Greek government is trying to implement 'austerity' measures to solve their horrific debt problems so that the Eurozone countries will bail them out. How do the Greek people react? They riot, burn buildings, destroy the property of their fellow citizens and kill 3 people. Charming bunch, the Greeks. Thank God that Britain will not be part of the bail out of Greece. The Brits were smart enough to stay out of the Euro.

Sounds like LA.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CA will be our Greece

 

[Toro]

It's a Progressive Mecca, the government is the biggest employer, people are unarmed and have surrendered all control to the State. Why wait? You won't need a job because you'll be living and working for the Government.

One way ticket from JFK is $560.

What are you waiting for?

They all hate paying taxes, so it sounds like there are a lot of conservatives there to.

 

[sweetie]

...as one wag recently put it, "i suspect that if we could get an honest audit out of these stoooooooooooooooopid motherfucking republicrats it would reveal bankruptcy that would make greece look like a piker.."

...stfu, republiclowns..

 

[sweetie]

DIAMONDDAVE RAVES: " Unfortunately, when the big government power whores started putting this entitlement shit in place in attempts to hold on to power longer, it made it hard to get back out of government thanks to all the red tape their over bloated government created"



...this from a stooooopid republican know-little who wants to foist the abortion police upon us?!...government execution/incarceration of 100's of thousands of women?!..

..stfu..

 

[uscitizen]

It's a Progressive Mecca, the government is the biggest employer, people are unarmed and have surrendered all control to the State. Why wait? You won't need a job because you'll be living and working for the Government.

One way ticket from JFK is $560.

What are you waiting for?

You already checked on the ticket price?

I am not going, I don't like olives.

 

[mskafka]

It's a Progressive Mecca, the government is the biggest employer, people are unarmed and have surrendered all control to the State. Why wait? You won't need a job because you'll be living and working for the Government.

One way ticket from JFK is $560.

What are you waiting for?

No, I think that you guys would fit in much better, over there. You can carry around your misspelled signs, and most of them won't know. And your yelling, screaming, and name-calling will seem normal. As a matter of fact, I'm sure with all of your combined knowledge of economics; you will all be able to SAVE THEIR ECONOMY!

 

[GilbertArizona]

What are you waiting for?

For you, Bush and Cheney to move to Iraq.

 

[The T]

CA will be our Greece

Exactly. And Frank? Speaking of Greece? Read this from February this year...(Interesting Read)...

GREECE


We see what the result is thanks to the Government Unions over there fueled by the Communist party over there.

They're setting themselves on fire!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a Progressive Mecca, the government is the biggest employer, people are unarmed and have surrendered all control to the State. Why wait? You won't need a job because you'll be living and working for the Government.

One way ticket from JFK is $560.

What are you waiting for?

No, I think that you guys would fit in much better, over there. You can carry around your misspelled signs, and most of them won't know. And your yelling, screaming, and name-calling will seem normal. As a matter of fact, I'm sure with all of your combined knowledge of economics; you will all be able to SAVE THEIR ECONOMY!

I know enough economics to say they're fucked for at least a generation

 

[The T]

It's a Progressive Mecca, the government is the biggest employer, people are unarmed and have surrendered all control to the State. Why wait? You won't need a job because you'll be living and working for the Government.

One way ticket from JFK is $560.

What are you waiting for?

You already checked on the ticket price?

I am not going, I don't like olives.

Greece is a pretty country. I had occasion to spend a year there in the Northern part of the Country near Thessoloniki (Solinka) 1980/81. On a mountain...

HAVE A LOOK

They have more than olives there trust me. It's a shame to see what's going on over there politically right now. But then they were hugely Socialist then as well. I learned alot of their culture...and am better for it.
As a young lad barely 20 then? I could have cared less of their politics at the time except we were told to beware of the Communist element there.

[The KKE/KNE]. This was near the height of the Cold war and the beginnings of Ronald Reagan's Term as POTUS.

I was there to do a job...and have a good time...(Which I did both).


Yep...damned shame.

 

[Toro]

Greece is beautiful. I backpacked through Europe and spent a few weeks hopping around the islands.

I wouldn't want to start a business there, though!

The Greeks are giving the world a good taste of their modern politics. Periclean democracy, meet Athenian mob rule: Tens of thousands are rampaging through the capital and other large cities this week in protest against €30 billion in austerity measures needed to secure the €110 billion bailout for the bankrupt country.

The nationwide strike—led by government-employee unions, which threaten further disruptions after parliament yesterday approved the rescue package—was a timely show for Greece's prospective rescuers in Germany and at the International Monetary Fund. The medicine for Greece's deficit and debt woes (at 13% and 124.9% of GDP, respectively, and rising) won't go down easily in Athens. We continue to think the country needs to restructure its debts and adopt wholesale economic reforms.

If you want to understand the reason, as good a source as any is the annual World Bank "Doing Business" survey for 2010. The spark for this financial crisis has been decades of overspending and cooking of the public books, but the survey reveals the underlying causes of the Greek disease.

In terms of overall ease of doing business, Greece comes in 109 out of 183 countries around the world. It is dead last among the 27 members of the European Union as well as the advanced economies in the OECD. You have to go up 30 slots to find the next worst EU performer, Italy. The U.S. ranks fourth and Singapore is first.

At 109, Greece ranks below such models of transparency and free enterprise as Egypt (106), Zambia (90), Rwanda (67) and Kazakhstan (63). A country has to work hard to do this poorly.

The Doing Business survey reveals an economy that's hostile to free enterprise and private property, primed for corruption, lacking in labor and capital mobility, stifled by powerful trade unions and unlikely to grow without deep-rooted changes. The table nearby shows Greece's rank in the 10 categories related to business operations covered by the World Bank survey.

Want to start a business in Greece? The country ranks 140 in the world because you'll need an average of 19 days and 15 steps to do it. In the U.S., it takes six days and six steps.

Filing taxes consumes 224 hours a year in Greece. In Luxembourg, the richest European Union state, it takes on average 59 hours. In the U.S., it's 187 hours.

As for protecting investors, the erstwhile cradle of Western civilization ranks 154, which has the obvious effect of scaring good money away. Most glaring are weak laws on disclosure of information to shareholders. By the bank's index, a prospective investor enjoys nearly twice the level of protection in Italy, no stand-out itself.

It's appropriate that Greece's best ranking—at 43—is for the ease of closing a business. Greeks have certainly had plenty of practice.

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The Greek Economy Explained - WSJ.com

 

[traveler52]

It's a Progressive MeccaQUOTE]

Because you shit stick, I was born in the United States of America and I happen to love my country. You on the other hand suffer a narrow minded point of view that indicates the you lack necessary qualifications to be called an intelligent life form.