Why are there 146,000 US troops in Europe/Asia 70 years after WWII?

[Camp]

Let's ignore the Cold War and protecting our investments in Europe and Japan after WWII.

 

[Redfish]

Those Countries are paying a lot of money for our Troops stationed there.

Japan balks at 2 billion to host U.S. troops Marine Corps Times marinecorpstimes.com

After their defeat, we wrote their Constitutions and forbade both from having any offensive Military capability so to keep them from being overrun by dimocrap scum we used to call 'communists' we keep troops there and they pay for them.

Pretty good deal if you ask me

true, but the question is whether the US military exists to provide mercenaries to other countries.

 

[healthmyths]

FACT:
US troops are spread across the globe: approximately 66,000 are stationed in Europe; approximately 80,000 in East Asia and the Pacific region; over 5,000 in North Africa, Southwestern and South Asia;
United States military deployments - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why then was there such an urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan ?

ONE major reason... the US mainstream media and democrats working together totally mislead the general public as usual in how these wars are won.
Just as the MSM and the democrats did with Vietnam, constant criticism of the military as was done in Vietnam was the major reason for the reduction in forces. Our military knew from experience we couldn't leave Iraq undefended.
But bowing to the MSM/Democrats that did this for political gain, the military withdrew.
And now we are paying the consequences.

When was the last time troops were killed in Europe or Asia? You can't be this dumb.

what the f...k does that have to do with it?? YOU aren't answering the question!
Why did we leave 146,000 when Germany surrendered! Japan surrendered. Dumb f...k you don't know obviously YOUR history!

You asked why the urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan. It's clearly because our troops were dying and being wounded. You ever see a wounded warrior commercial? Those guys weren't in Europe/Asia. So you are this dumb?

OH geez.... are you that f...king NAIVE?????
Why are there troops still after 70 years in Germany/Japan? WWII was over in 1945... but why did we have troops there after the war??
Why can't you answer that question???
BUT in Iraq? Why was it so necessary for the MSM/Democrats to push removal of US troops? WHY?? Political gain with total disregard for our troops SAFETY!
Now the ME is on fire because WE didn't keep the fire out! Any dummy knows that you don't leave a burning building until you are sure ALL the embers are out!
Same with a war. You don't ever leave country you conquered...dummy!

Yes you really are that dumb. Again troops were dying in iran/Afghanistan. Nobody is dying in Europe/Asia. That is the obvious answer. Iran/Afghanistan was costing us a whole lot more $$$$ too. Can't believe anyone is dumb enough to compare them. You are amazing.

So the ONLY reason the US left troops today in Germany/Japan is they aren't getting killed?
ARE you that stupid???
Maybe you should study a little history.
NO army that every conquered a foe EVER then left conquered foe's country!
They always left a force to deal with INSURGENCY!!!!

Almost ALL military people laughed at the USA for accepting terms of the conquered country to LEAVE!
That's why we have troops in Germany/Asia is because of the treaties and agreements that were SIGNED meant the USA was there to stay!

GEEZ... why have a military if you aren't going to win a conflict?
YOU truly don't get it do you???

 

[Brain357]

When was the last time troops were killed in Europe or Asia? You can't be this dumb.

what the f...k does that have to do with it?? YOU aren't answering the question!
Why did we leave 146,000 when Germany surrendered! Japan surrendered. Dumb f...k you don't know obviously YOUR history!

You asked why the urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan. It's clearly because our troops were dying and being wounded. You ever see a wounded warrior commercial? Those guys weren't in Europe/Asia. So you are this dumb?

OH geez.... are you that f...king NAIVE?????
Why are there troops still after 70 years in Germany/Japan? WWII was over in 1945... but why did we have troops there after the war??
Why can't you answer that question???
BUT in Iraq? Why was it so necessary for the MSM/Democrats to push removal of US troops? WHY?? Political gain with total disregard for our troops SAFETY!
Now the ME is on fire because WE didn't keep the fire out! Any dummy knows that you don't leave a burning building until you are sure ALL the embers are out!
Same with a war. You don't ever leave country you conquered...dummy!

Yes you really are that dumb. Again troops were dying in iran/Afghanistan. Nobody is dying in Europe/Asia. That is the obvious answer. Iran/Afghanistan was costing us a whole lot more $$$$ too. Can't believe anyone is dumb enough to compare them. You are amazing.

So the ONLY reason the US left troops today in Germany/Japan is they aren't getting killed?
ARE you that stupid???
Maybe you should study a little history.
NO army that every conquered a foe EVER then left conquered foe's country!
They always left a force to deal with INSURGENCY!!!!

Almost ALL military people laughed at the USA for accepting terms of the conquered country to LEAVE!
That's why we have troops in Germany/Asia is because of the treaties and agreements that were SIGNED meant the USA was there to stay!

GEEZ... why have a military if you aren't going to win a conflict?
YOU truly don't get it do you???

You asked why there was an urgency. Troops dying creates an urgency. Spending lots of $$$$ for no reason creates urgency. There is no winning in Iran/Afghanistan. There was no such urgency in Europe.

 

[Edgetho]

true, but the question is whether the US military exists to provide mercenaries to other countries.

No. They exist as a 'speed bump' in another part of the world.

If Russia attacks Germany, we are obligated to protect Germany which means we have to fight Russia.

I'd rather fight Russia in Germany than in New Yawk..... Although I doubt anyone in New Yawk would notice

The whole point is to fight a war, if necessary, somewhere else. Not here.

 

[Brain357]

I'm no fan of having troops all over the world, but why we would have urgency gettng out of Iran/Afghanistan is obvious. I'd pull all our troops back and put them on the border. That would take care of that problem and the economy would get a boost.

 

[hortysir]

FACT:
US troops are spread across the globe: approximately 66,000 are stationed in Europe; approximately 80,000 in East Asia and the Pacific region; over 5,000 in North Africa, Southwestern and South Asia;
United States military deployments - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why then was there such an urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan ?

ONE major reason... the US mainstream media and democrats working together totally mislead the general public as usual in how these wars are won.
Just as the MSM and the democrats did with Vietnam, constant criticism of the military as was done in Vietnam was the major reason for the reduction in forces. Our military knew from experience we couldn't leave Iraq undefended.
But bowing to the MSM/Democrats that did this for political gain, the military withdrew.
And now we are paying the consequences.

When was the last time troops were killed in Europe or Asia? You can't be this dumb.

what the f...k does that have to do with it?? YOU aren't answering the question!
Why did we leave 146,000 when Germany surrendered! Japan surrendered. Dumb f...k you don't know obviously YOUR history!

You asked why the urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan. It's clearly because our troops were dying and being wounded. You ever see a wounded warrior commercial? Those guys weren't in Europe/Asia. So you are this dumb?

OH geez.... are you that f...king NAIVE?????
Why are there troops still after 70 years in Germany/Japan? WWII was over in 1945... but why did we have troops there after the war??
Why can't you answer that question???
BUT in Iraq? Why was it so necessary for the MSM/Democrats to push removal of US troops? WHY?? Political gain with total disregard for our troops SAFETY!
Now the ME is on fire because WE didn't keep the fire out! Any dummy knows that you don't leave a burning building until you are sure ALL the embers are out!
Same with a war. You don't ever leave country you conquered...dummy!

And you always leave someone standing Fire Watch to make sure it does't reignite

 

[Redfish]

true, but the question is whether the US military exists to provide mercenaries to other countries.

No. They exist as a 'speed bump' in another part of the world.

If Russia attacks Germany, we are obligated to protect Germany which means we have to fight Russia.

I'd rather fight Russia in Germany than in New Yawk..... Although I doubt anyone in New Yawk would notice

The whole point is to fight a war, if necessary, somewhere else. Not here.

yes, but with modern weapons and technology we don't have to be within a stone's throw of the enemy in order to win a war. Foreign bases are obsolete. A carrier off shore can do the same things much cheapter and more effectively.

 

[Unkotare]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

Impractical nonsense.

 

[Unkotare]

true, but the question is whether the US military exists to provide mercenaries to other countries.

No. They exist as a 'speed bump' in another part of the world.

If Russia attacks Germany, we are obligated to protect Germany which means we have to fight Russia.

I'd rather fight Russia in Germany than in New Yawk..... Although I doubt anyone in New Yawk would notice

The whole point is to fight a war, if necessary, somewhere else. Not here.

yes, but with modern weapons and technology we don't have to be within a stone's throw of the enemy in order to win a war. ...

Yes you do. Don't be absurd.

In Vietnam some people wanted to believe that air superiority alone could win a war. They were proven wrong. Clinton wanted to believe he could secure US military objectives by just lobbing a few missiles from offshore. He was proven wrong. obama is trying it again. He has been proven wrong.

Grow up and stop looking for easy outs.

 

[longknife]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

An amazingly right on post!

 

[Claudette]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

I agree. If they don't want to pay up them we need to bring our troops home and they can forget all the money we pay them for the priviledge of being in their country.

No way should we still be in Europe. Let the Europeans take care of their own security if they need to.

The only place I think we need troops is in South Korea and only because of that nutjob who runs North Korea.

Yup. I'd pull all US troops out of everywhere except for South Korea.

 

[Redfish]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

I agree. If they don't want to pay up them we need to bring our troops home and they can forget all the money we pay them for the priviledge of being in their country.

No way should we still be in Europe. Let the Europeans take care of their own security if they need to.

The only place I think we need troops is in South Korea and only because of that nutjob who runs North Korea.

Yup. I'd pull all US troops out of everywhere except for South Korea.

south korea has lots of money, they could pay for our protection.

 

[kiwiman127]

FACT:
US troops are spread across the globe: approximately 66,000 are stationed in Europe; approximately 80,000 in East Asia and the Pacific region; over 5,000 in North Africa, Southwestern and South Asia;
United States military deployments - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why then was there such an urgency to leave Iraq/Afghanistan ?

ONE major reason... the US mainstream media and democrats working together totally mislead the general public as usual in how these wars are won.
Just as the MSM and the democrats did with Vietnam, constant criticism of the military as was done in Vietnam was the major reason for the reduction in forces. Our military knew from experience we couldn't leave Iraq undefended.
But bowing to the MSM/Democrats that did this for political gain, the military withdrew.
And now we are paying the consequences.

Let's blame the Dems for something that both Republican and Democratic Presidents and Congresses have in unison done.
No ideological hackery here!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"Why are there 146,000 US troops in Europe/Asia 70 years after WWII?"

Socialism... it demands to set 'responsibility' for its defense on SOMEONE ELSE!

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Why are there 146,000 US troops in Europe/Asia 70 years after WWII?"

Socialism... it demands to set 'responsibility' for its defense on SOMEONE ELSE!

1. A central theme of Leftism is pacifism, largely because no welfare state can afford a strong military. Europeans came to rely on America to fight the world’s evils and even to defend their countries. This means that ‘equality’ trumps morality.
   1. That is why Liberal elites are so confused: they venerate a Cuban tyranny with its egalitarian society over a free, decent, and prosperous America that has greater inequality of material wealth. Dennis Prager

 

[healthmyths]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

I agree. If they don't want to pay up them we need to bring our troops home and they can forget all the money we pay them for the priviledge of being in their country.

No way should we still be in Europe. Let the Europeans take care of their own security if they need to.

The only place I think we need troops is in South Korea and only because of that nutjob who runs North Korea.

Yup. I'd pull all US troops out of everywhere except for South Korea.

south korea has lots of money, they could pay for our protection.

FACT takes so little time to look it up before you write you above comment!!!

S. Korea to pay over 800mln towards US military presence RT News
S. Korea to pay over $800 million towards US military presence
Seoul has struck a deal with the US to cover the costs of stationing 28,500 US troops in the country. The five-year cost-sharing plan stipulates South Korea pay 920 billion won ($866.5 million) in 2014, a 5.4 percent rise from the previous year.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

We should tell every country that has a US base that in one year we are closing those bases unless the host country agrees to: 1, pay all expenses related to the bases, including military pay and benefits, 2. charge no rent or utility expense to the US for those bases. 3. dedicate an equal number of host country military personnel to the defense of that country.

I agree. If they don't want to pay up them we need to bring our troops home and they can forget all the money we pay them for the priviledge of being in their country.

No way should we still be in Europe. Let the Europeans take care of their own security if they need to.

The only place I think we need troops is in South Korea and only because of that nutjob who runs North Korea.

Yup. I'd pull all US troops out of everywhere except for South Korea.

south korea has lots of money, they could pay for our protection.

FACT takes so little time to look it up before you write you above comment!!!

S. Korea to pay over 800mln towards US military presence RT News
S. Korea to pay over $800 million towards US military presence
Seoul has struck a deal with the US to cover the costs of stationing 28,500 US troops in the country. The five-year cost-sharing plan stipulates South Korea pay 920 billion won ($866.5 million) in 2014, a 5.4 percent rise from the previous year.

800 million doesn't even BEGIN to pay for decades of direct US Military Support. Not even CLOSE.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The defense industry makes billions off the US's bloated unnecessary military. Billions buy lots of politicians.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Why are there 146,000 US troops in Europe/Asia 70 years after WWII?"

Socialism... it demands to set 'responsibility' for its defense on SOMEONE ELSE!

1. A central theme of Leftism is pacifism, largely because no welfare state can afford a strong military. Europeans came to rely on America to fight the world’s evils and even to defend their countries. This means that ‘equality’ trumps morality.
   1. That is why Liberal elites are so confused: they venerate a Cuban tyranny with its egalitarian society over a free, decent, and prosperous America that has greater inequality of material wealth. Dennis Prager

We have a massive debt most of which can be attributed to Republicans refusing to pay for war after war after war.