Why are so many Jews Democrats?

dilloduck said:
I think American Jews wanted to be sure they were safe from oppression in America before they lobbyed for their homeland and the Democrats seemed to offer that at the time. Feeling a bit safer in America, I think they now see the Republicans as the party that will protect Israel and their money. Similar to what Zhuk posted.

That is the mainstay. It applies to blacks also.

What occured was that just prior to the civil rights movements, it was mostly conservatives who discriminated. While the conservative party has mended its ways in regards to that, several things still hold. Jews still cling to the idea of the old conservative party, and as has been pointed out, tradition takes its toll. Plus the MSM and the DNC still like to portray conservatives as racists.

Then there is the factor that real racists and Jew haters, such as WJ, hide under the wings of the conservative/repub party, simply because we do have a few other, totally non related issues in common.

Lastly, most Jews fall into the category of moderate Democrats. Take Lieberman for example. There simply isnt anything that "THEY SEE" that will draw them out of the Dems side. And they think, that if the Dems have control, Israel will still get our assistence, and wont cease to exist.

Funny about the black support of the Dems depending on them not becoming pro Israel, just another example of how the Dems are supported by NOTHING BUT SPLINTER groups, not any one main group. And those splinter groups often come in conflict with each other.
 
Abbey Normal said:
This question has been on my mind now and then.

I think it is farly clear that the best hope for Israel is the United States, and the people in the US who speak in favor of defending Israel are usually Republicans. So why does it seem that *most* Jews are continually voting Democrat? Do those Jews not care about the continued existence of Israel? Or is the right to murder your child more important than the existence of Israel? Any ideas?

Good question.

My answer: Lag.

Jews were overwhelmingly Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists for one pretty simple reason: they hated white Christians or other self-directing whites. This was the best way to combat them. For years, this was the case. Don't buy any of this bullshit about the "progressive" message of the Old Testament. Man. You read the OT? Ain't nothin' progressive about it!

Today, it still may be the case: support the ACLU, get crosses taken down. OK.

But "neocon" Jews for whom Israel is a priority saw an opportunity with the war-happy Republicans to strike out at Arabs. They knew they couldn't get Democrats to follow along, so they cuddled up to the GOP, infiltrated, and gave it money. Ken Mehlman, Jack Abramoff, anyone? Anyway.

The fact that most Jews are Democrats didn't stand in the way.

Jews as Democrats have achieved the destruction of white Christian America. Jews as Republicans have achieved the destruction of Israel's enemy, Iraq. No matter what party affiliation they claim, it is always for the purpose of advancing their own interest at the expense of everyone else. You know it's true: how many Jewish "Republicans" promote Christian values, abortion restriction, no gay marriage, etc.? How many Jewish "Democrats" take a strong enough stand against the Iraq war to stop it?

Bottom line is, Jews always get what they want. And that usually involves whites paying the price through blood, money, or loss of their own culture. Best for Jews, the overwhelming majority of whites think of Jews in positive terms, or as people for whom support is owed for whatever reason. To top it all off, point any of this out, and everyone at the office or on the chatboard leaps on you for being an "anti-Semite." You're lucky if you can get someone to acknowledge even in private and off the record that Jews just might not be the holy and perfect people they claim, and that, like the rest of us, they might just do some dirty deeds of their own sometimes. Good deal, eh?
 
William Joyce said:
Good question.

My answer: Lag.

Jews were overwhelmingly Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists for one pretty simple reason: they hated white Christians or other self-directing whites. This was the best way to combat them. For years, this was the case. Don't buy any of this bullshit about the "progressive" message of the Old Testament. Man. You read the OT? Ain't nothin' progressive about it!

Today, it still may be the case: support the ACLU, get crosses taken down. OK.

But "neocon" Jews for whom Israel is a priority saw an opportunity with the war-happy Republicans to strike out at Arabs. They knew they couldn't get Democrats to follow along, so they cuddled up to the GOP, infiltrated, and gave it money. Ken Mehlman, Jack Abramoff, anyone? Anyway.

The fact that most Jews are Democrats didn't stand in the way.

Jews as Democrats have achieved the destruction of white Christian America. Jews as Republicans have achieved the destruction of Israel's enemy, Iraq. No matter what party affiliation they claim, it is always for the purpose of advancing their own interest at the expense of everyone else. You know it's true: how many Jewish "Republicans" promote Christian values, abortion restriction, no gay marriage, etc.? How many Jewish "Democrats" take a strong enough stand against the Iraq war to stop it?

Bottom line is, Jews always get what they want. And that usually involves whites paying the price through blood, money, or loss of their own culture. Best for Jews, the overwhelming majority of whites think of Jews in positive terms, or as people for whom support is owed for whatever reason. To top it all off, point any of this out, and everyone at the office or on the chatboard leaps on you for being an "anti-Semite." You're lucky if you can get someone to acknowledge even in private and off the record that Jews just might not be the holy and perfect people they claim, and that, like the rest of us, they might just do some dirty deeds of their own sometimes. Good deal, eh?

I thought Jews were also whites. :scratch:
 
William Joyce said:
Good question.

My answer: Lag.

Jews were overwhelmingly Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists for one pretty simple reason: they hated white Christians or other self-directing whites. This was the best way to combat them. For years, this was the case. Don't buy any of this bullshit about the "progressive" message of the Old Testament. Man. You read the OT? Ain't nothin' progressive about it!

Today, it still may be the case: support the ACLU, get crosses taken down. OK.

But "neocon" Jews for whom Israel is a priority saw an opportunity with the war-happy Republicans to strike out at Arabs. They knew they couldn't get Democrats to follow along, so they cuddled up to the GOP, infiltrated, and gave it money. Ken Mehlman, Jack Abramoff, anyone? Anyway.

The fact that most Jews are Democrats didn't stand in the way.

Jews as Democrats have achieved the destruction of white Christian America. Jews as Republicans have achieved the destruction of Israel's enemy, Iraq. No matter what party affiliation they claim, it is always for the purpose of advancing their own interest at the expense of everyone else. You know it's true: how many Jewish "Republicans" promote Christian values, abortion restriction, no gay marriage, etc.? How many Jewish "Democrats" take a strong enough stand against the Iraq war to stop it?

Bottom line is, Jews always get what they want. And that usually involves whites paying the price through blood, money, or loss of their own culture. Best for Jews, the overwhelming majority of whites think of Jews in positive terms, or as people for whom support is owed for whatever reason. To top it all off, point any of this out, and everyone at the office or on the chatboard leaps on you for being an "anti-Semite." You're lucky if you can get someone to acknowledge even in private and off the record that Jews just might not be the holy and perfect people they claim, and that, like the rest of us, they might just do some dirty deeds of their own sometimes. Good deal, eh?

What a load of claptrap. I notice you always ignore my posts that expose you.

Jews hated white Christians??? Paaaaaaaaaaaaaalease.

It was historically white Christians who oppresed Jews in the US till recently

Me thinks you go like this.

I hate all non whites.
I take facts and contort them to fit my world view.
In order to achieve this, I must come up with opinions and ideas that are contrary to historical evidence. But I will continue to ignore that historical evidence and continue on my blind hatred and racism.
 
ScreamingEagle said:
I thought Jews were also whites. :scratch:
Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.
 
Kathianne said:
Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4991738


05 · A Jewish inmate at California's San Quentin prison says his life is in danger because he's being housed with other white inmates, many of whom belong to anti-Semitic, white supremacist gangs. The inmate is asking the prison to reclassify him from "White" to "Other."
 
http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm
In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.

they're a race when it's time for minority protections, but not a race in the face of accusations of racism. It's a pretty good setup. It's not a simple matter for jew or non jews.
 
Kathianne said:
Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.

Yep, and then if they eliminated all but whites, it would then be narrowed to blue eyed whites. Then blue eyed, blonde hair. Then those without any of this or that until only two remain, then they would battle it out for supremecy. Those hate groups always come down to one person who is best, "ME ME ME ME ME ME "

Same thing would occur with radical Islam.
 
I don't understand the hostility towards WJ's comments when jews themselves and the supreme court don't know if jews are a race or a religion. Political Correctness?
 
The "liberality" of Jews is a generalization that in recent years has shown
a reverse trend. AS they have become part of the establishment, liberality
is in decline, to with Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Alan Dershowitz.
There is a prominent Republican Jewish organization with people like
Michael Medved and Michael Savage extreme right wingers. For some
Jews a division of social and economic issues obtains.
On the question of race, Jews, Jesus that is belong to a "tribe"
described as Semetic. Does that mean they are a race. Better ask Jesus.
Have a good day.
 
karlos4473 said:
The "liberality" of Jews is a generalization that in recent years has shown
a reverse trend. AS they have become part of the establishment, liberality
is in decline, to with Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Alan Dershowitz.
There is a prominent Republican Jewish organization with people like
Michael Medved and Michael Savage extreme right wingers. For some
Jews a division of social and economic issues obtains.
On the question of race, Jews, Jesus that is belong to a "tribe"
described as Semetic. Does that mean they are a race. Better ask Jesus.
Have a good day.
Savage would smack you if you called him a jew...
 
manu1959 said:
explain sammy davis jr.

Never said ALL Jews were white, just as I was pointing out to WJ that Jews are also white. Let's get away from this "black or white" thinking which WJ seems to prefer.
 
karlos4473 said:
The "liberality" of Jews is a generalization that in recent years has shown
a reverse trend. AS they have become part of the establishment, liberality
is in decline, to with Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Alan Dershowitz.
There is a prominent Republican Jewish organization with people like
Michael Medved and Michael Savage extreme right wingers. For some
Jews a division of social and economic issues obtains.
On the question of race, Jews, Jesus that is belong to a "tribe"
described as Semetic. Does that mean they are a race. Better ask Jesus.
Have a good day.

so Micheale Medved is an extreme right winger eh? Care to name any extreme left wingers? Or dont any exist?
 
rtwngAvngr said:
I don't understand the hostility towards WJ's comments when jews themselves and the supreme court don't know if jews are a race or a religion. Political Correctness?



Judaism is a religion based on old time heritage...many ethnic groups make up the Jewish religion as do Catholics,Protestant,Buddist etc etc...I find it amusing that they continue to call themselves a race vs a religious group...to get technical if they maitain old lines(Marry only within families from original lines) they would fall into the Middle East category! So they would be bros to the Persian and Arabian lines!
 
Abbey Normal said:
This question has been on my mind now and then.

I think it is farly clear that the best hope for Israel is the United States, and the people in the US who speak in favor of defending Israel are usually Republicans. So why does it seem that *most* Jews are continually voting Democrat? Do those Jews not care about the continued existence of Israel? Or is the right to murder your child more important than the existence of Israel? Any ideas?

Maybe the better question at least for me is why are Jews in this country so liberal, and so pro-abortion, considering the mass incineration that happened to them by Hitler and gang???
 
Bonnie said:
Maybe the better question at least for me is why are Jews in this country so liberal, and so pro-abortion, considering the mass incineration that happened to them by Hitler and gang???

Good questions, Bonnie. I think the horrors under Hitler can somewhat explain their buying into the ACLU fear-mongering about losing freedoms and slippery slopes. I will never understand the pro-abortion stance, though.
 
Abbey Normal said:
Good questions, Bonnie. I think the horrors under Hitler can somewhat explain their buying into the ACLU fear-mongering about losing freedoms and slippery slopes. I will never understand the pro-abortion stance, though.

Amazing to me how they in particular don't see the similarities. Jews in Israel seem for the most part to be more conservative, I suppose that comes from living with terrorism for the last 1000 years. Maybe some day the liberals in this country will wise up??
 
archangel said:
Judaism is a religion based on old time heritage...many ethnic groups make up the Jewish religion as do Catholics,Protestant,Buddist etc etc...I find it amusing that they continue to call themselves a race vs a religious group...to get technical if they maitain old lines(Marry only within families from original lines) they would fall into the Middle East category! So they would be bros to the Persian and Arabian lines!

I believe genetically, they are cousins to the arabs.

What is a Jew? has been debated from time immemoral.
The best I have read is that you can be a Jew by birth, or by religion. The people who became Jews by religion, in the OT were always differentiated and referred to as "prosletyzed" Jews.
 

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