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dilloduck said:I think American Jews wanted to be sure they were safe from oppression in America before they lobbyed for their homeland and the Democrats seemed to offer that at the time. Feeling a bit safer in America, I think they now see the Republicans as the party that will protect Israel and their money. Similar to what Zhuk posted.
Abbey Normal said:This question has been on my mind now and then.
I think it is farly clear that the best hope for Israel is the United States, and the people in the US who speak in favor of defending Israel are usually Republicans. So why does it seem that *most* Jews are continually voting Democrat? Do those Jews not care about the continued existence of Israel? Or is the right to murder your child more important than the existence of Israel? Any ideas?
William Joyce said:Good question.
My answer: Lag.
Jews were overwhelmingly Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists for one pretty simple reason: they hated white Christians or other self-directing whites. This was the best way to combat them. For years, this was the case. Don't buy any of this bullshit about the "progressive" message of the Old Testament. Man. You read the OT? Ain't nothin' progressive about it!
Today, it still may be the case: support the ACLU, get crosses taken down. OK.
But "neocon" Jews for whom Israel is a priority saw an opportunity with the war-happy Republicans to strike out at Arabs. They knew they couldn't get Democrats to follow along, so they cuddled up to the GOP, infiltrated, and gave it money. Ken Mehlman, Jack Abramoff, anyone? Anyway.
The fact that most Jews are Democrats didn't stand in the way.
Jews as Democrats have achieved the destruction of white Christian America. Jews as Republicans have achieved the destruction of Israel's enemy, Iraq. No matter what party affiliation they claim, it is always for the purpose of advancing their own interest at the expense of everyone else. You know it's true: how many Jewish "Republicans" promote Christian values, abortion restriction, no gay marriage, etc.? How many Jewish "Democrats" take a strong enough stand against the Iraq war to stop it?
Bottom line is, Jews always get what they want. And that usually involves whites paying the price through blood, money, or loss of their own culture. Best for Jews, the overwhelming majority of whites think of Jews in positive terms, or as people for whom support is owed for whatever reason. To top it all off, point any of this out, and everyone at the office or on the chatboard leaps on you for being an "anti-Semite." You're lucky if you can get someone to acknowledge even in private and off the record that Jews just might not be the holy and perfect people they claim, and that, like the rest of us, they might just do some dirty deeds of their own sometimes. Good deal, eh?
William Joyce said:Good question.
My answer: Lag.
Jews were overwhelmingly Democrats/progressives/socialists/communists for one pretty simple reason: they hated white Christians or other self-directing whites. This was the best way to combat them. For years, this was the case. Don't buy any of this bullshit about the "progressive" message of the Old Testament. Man. You read the OT? Ain't nothin' progressive about it!
Today, it still may be the case: support the ACLU, get crosses taken down. OK.
But "neocon" Jews for whom Israel is a priority saw an opportunity with the war-happy Republicans to strike out at Arabs. They knew they couldn't get Democrats to follow along, so they cuddled up to the GOP, infiltrated, and gave it money. Ken Mehlman, Jack Abramoff, anyone? Anyway.
The fact that most Jews are Democrats didn't stand in the way.
Jews as Democrats have achieved the destruction of white Christian America. Jews as Republicans have achieved the destruction of Israel's enemy, Iraq. No matter what party affiliation they claim, it is always for the purpose of advancing their own interest at the expense of everyone else. You know it's true: how many Jewish "Republicans" promote Christian values, abortion restriction, no gay marriage, etc.? How many Jewish "Democrats" take a strong enough stand against the Iraq war to stop it?
Bottom line is, Jews always get what they want. And that usually involves whites paying the price through blood, money, or loss of their own culture. Best for Jews, the overwhelming majority of whites think of Jews in positive terms, or as people for whom support is owed for whatever reason. To top it all off, point any of this out, and everyone at the office or on the chatboard leaps on you for being an "anti-Semite." You're lucky if you can get someone to acknowledge even in private and off the record that Jews just might not be the holy and perfect people they claim, and that, like the rest of us, they might just do some dirty deeds of their own sometimes. Good deal, eh?
Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.ScreamingEagle said:I thought Jews were also whites. :scratch:
Kathianne said:Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.
In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.
Kathianne said:Most are, but not in the WJ world, they are semites, so not REALLY caucasian.
ScreamingEagle said:I thought Jews were also whites. :scratch:
Savage would smack you if you called him a jew...karlos4473 said:The "liberality" of Jews is a generalization that in recent years has shown
a reverse trend. AS they have become part of the establishment, liberality
is in decline, to with Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Alan Dershowitz.
There is a prominent Republican Jewish organization with people like
Michael Medved and Michael Savage extreme right wingers. For some
Jews a division of social and economic issues obtains.
On the question of race, Jews, Jesus that is belong to a "tribe"
described as Semetic. Does that mean they are a race. Better ask Jesus.
Have a good day.
manu1959 said:explain sammy davis jr.
karlos4473 said:The "liberality" of Jews is a generalization that in recent years has shown
a reverse trend. AS they have become part of the establishment, liberality
is in decline, to with Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Alan Dershowitz.
There is a prominent Republican Jewish organization with people like
Michael Medved and Michael Savage extreme right wingers. For some
Jews a division of social and economic issues obtains.
On the question of race, Jews, Jesus that is belong to a "tribe"
described as Semetic. Does that mean they are a race. Better ask Jesus.
Have a good day.
rtwngAvngr said:I don't understand the hostility towards WJ's comments when jews themselves and the supreme court don't know if jews are a race or a religion. Political Correctness?
Abbey Normal said:This question has been on my mind now and then.
I think it is farly clear that the best hope for Israel is the United States, and the people in the US who speak in favor of defending Israel are usually Republicans. So why does it seem that *most* Jews are continually voting Democrat? Do those Jews not care about the continued existence of Israel? Or is the right to murder your child more important than the existence of Israel? Any ideas?
Bonnie said:Maybe the better question at least for me is why are Jews in this country so liberal, and so pro-abortion, considering the mass incineration that happened to them by Hitler and gang???
Abbey Normal said:Good questions, Bonnie. I think the horrors under Hitler can somewhat explain their buying into the ACLU fear-mongering about losing freedoms and slippery slopes. I will never understand the pro-abortion stance, though.
archangel said:Judaism is a religion based on old time heritage...many ethnic groups make up the Jewish religion as do Catholics,Protestant,Buddist etc etc...I find it amusing that they continue to call themselves a race vs a religious group...to get technical if they maitain old lines(Marry only within families from original lines) they would fall into the Middle East category! So they would be bros to the Persian and Arabian lines!