Why are conservatives embracing false narratives of urban decline, and what can be done to encourage embracing social/political reality?

[BluesLegend]

Breaking news today, Washington DC crime out of control, dozens of businesses closed, violent crime up 39% since 2022. MinTrut's propaganda thread just got bitch slapped.

 

[MinTrut]

Not just Seattle. Has spread up and down the Puget urban and suburban corridor from about Olympia to the Canadian border.

Seattle is magnificent, thriving, safe.

Why are so many conservatives invested in denying this reality?

I can't get an answer, but just a repetition of the falsehoods.

Why is this?

 

[BluesLegend]

Seattle is magnificent, thriving, safe.

A 100% lie. I live here, this clown is trolling.

 

[Stryder50]

You're not responding to the topic.

Are you unable to do so?

The topic has greater scope than you realize or understand.
I'm responding to that and other nuances you fail to perceive.
Put down the bong.

 

[Stryder50]

So you have no reasonable reply to the thread's content.

The threads content and extrapolations are beyond your mental grasp.
I'm taking things to the next and more comprehensive level which you fail to know or appreciate.

 

[Stryder50]

Seattle is magnificent, thriving, safe.

Why are so many conservatives invested in denying this reality?

I can't get an answer, but just a repetition of the falsehoods.

Why is this?

Parts of it are, parts of it aren't.
I've lived here over 70 years and know this city and area better than a temporary tourist like yourself.
As I offered earlier, next time you come here (assuming you really did the first time, which I strongly doubt), PM me and we can meet and I'll give you a tour of the underbelly of the PNW and Seattle.

 

[Arlette]

Because they are liars.

They don't want to talk about what's happening in small towns

 

[MinTrut]

EXCERPT:
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Buying into the expensive Seattle housing market has been a daunting proposition for many years, but, when mortgage interest rates were down in the 2% to 3% range, a person could take a deep breath and boldly leap into debt. Not so much today.

The COVID-19 pandemic drove up inflation to scary levels and the Federal Reserve responded by jacking up interest rates well past 7%. As a result, fewer home buyers could afford to buy and fewer sellers were motivated to sell, knowing they’d be taking on that high interest burden on their next home.

Right now, the Seattle-area market is running cold. The number of houses with “for sale” signs in the yard has taken a major dip, even as prices continue to rise. The median single-family home in King County sold for $885,500 in November, an increase of 7% from a year earlier, while new listings were down by 11% in the same time period.
...

Even Santa can’t help Seattle house hunters | Horsey cartoon

Don't count on finding a set of new house keys in your stocking this Christmas.

www.seattletimes.com

BTW, Horsey isn't fully on target here. The FED is only a small part of the equation. Market prices driven by regressive Left-leaning policies and Guv'mint in the city to state realm is the main cause of the PNW becoming unaffordable for any other than the upper-upper-"middle class" and above.

Seattle is a gorgeous, safe city with incredibly high housing demand, but as almost everywhere, a slowing sales market due to mortgage rates.

 

[MinTrut]

Bullshit !!!

Well, I did encounter a dead rat...

But better a dead one than a live one as they say.

Try living here in the PNW for a year or more.

I'm thinking about it, yes.

Start with buying a home (not renting a condo) in the greater Seattle Metro area.

Are you a licensed real estate broker or financial planner?

Get back to me/us then.

Are you the boss of me?

I've lived in the PNW and so have my family for decades (70+ years for me).

Great!

This area is unreasonably expensive compared to the rest of the nation

True that - the beauty and safety and incredible job market are great draws.

and much is due to the regressive and Leftist politics and leadership that is trashing the affordability and livability of this area.

Naw - it's supply and demand.

Especially for the under forty generation and new families.

Affordable housing is a big issue everywhere, but the Great Boomer Die-Off is already underway, so relief is coming!

 

[MinTrut]

You are full of crap!

Fallacious/irrelevant.

One only needs to start by driving I-5 through the heart of Seattle, North or South bound, to see the homeless encampments along the edges of that interstate freeway in the core of the city.

Did that.

Seattle has issues, but is an absolute gem.

Why are you denigrating it?

PM me next time you are in this area and I'll give you the real tour of our area/city and drop you off some place "real safe" and full of "positivity" about midnight and leave you there until dawn.

Thank you!

But I got a full multi-day tour from long-time residents, and we saw many areas, some gorgeous, a few less than.

AMAZING city.

Getting back to the larger topic, why do you think conservatives paint such a false and dire picture of beautiful, safe, thriving Blue cities like Seattle?

 

[Papageorgio]

You are full of crap!
One only needs to start by driving I-5 through the heart of Seattle, North or South bound, to see the homeless encampments along the edges of that interstate freeway in the core of the city.

PM me next time you are in this area and I'll give you the real tour of our area/city and drop you off some place "real safe" and full of "positivity" about midnight and leave you there until dawn.

We lived there and moved away, won’t live there anywhere near there again. Our company wanted me to take a promotion and work at the home office in Seattle and I turned it down. Crime, drugs, and homeless were all factored in to the decision. Some people like it, I don’t, just speaking for myself.

 

[OKTexas]

Seattle is just one example of a Blue city so successful that you're astonished by the disparity between its safety/beauty on the one hand, and the bizarre apocalyptic narratives attached to it by conservatives on the other:

Seattle is a victim of its own success | Horsey cartoon

This once middle-class town is getting too expensive for the middle class.

www.seattletimes.com

But Seattle's not alone in the reality/false narrative gap; both New York City and Los Angeles rank among the 20 greatest cities in the world in a recent Conde Nast survey:

These are officially the best cities in the world for 2023 â and Dubai is up there

In fact, there's only one city that ranks higher

www.cntravellerme.com

I mention Seattle only because a recent visit there revealed an amazing, safe, thriving city whose biggest problem - as with many US cities - is affordable housing due to the influx of newcomers clamoring for its emerald beauty.

So what gives?

Part of the explanation may be that conservatives are so hungry for a return to power that they seem unable to refrain from saying whatever it takes to sell a less than truthful narrative regarding our greatest cities in particular, and our country in general.

But there may be a deeper cause, as explored in this article:

The science behind why conservatives are so easily triggered

Curiously, it is the same reason why they are best equipped for the meme wars

www.salon.com

What is the cost - to both conservatives and those exposed to their false narratives - of insisting on apocalyptic myths of societal decay contrary to the reality of blossoming urban areas?

What can be done to turn away these troubling false narratives and embrace the beautiful truth?

You were saying?

Seattle records most homicides in at least 44 years in 2023​

MSN

www.msn.com

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[MinTrut]

“Why are conservatives embracing false narratives of urban decline…”

Because conservatives are for the most part dishonest and liars.

“…what can be done to encourage embracing social/political reality?”

Confronting conservatives with their dishonesty and lies.

Surely some conservatives are not honest, but the cause may be deeper, and may define conservatism in some regards.

Fear-driven behavior seems a norm among many.

 

[MinTrut]

so you visited there and that makes you an expert on the city?

^ Straw man.

.....did you go to the poor side of town in that visit?

It was an extensive visit, but why do you think conservatives embrace false narratives about decay in the face of blossoming?

.........what about the quality of life there?

Amazing.

But due to its safety and beauty - and thriving job market - it IS quite expensive.

.....so the rich are going good,what about everyone else?...

Being poor can be awful anywhere.

Why do you think conservatives embrace false narratives about decay?

 

[MinTrut]

Cities in America are undergoing gentrification. Those conservatives kids are living in apartments in those gentrified areas, while going to college, and after for easier commutes to their jobs, where public transportation is available, and bicycle, and EV commutes are more affordable.

You know where those kids aren't going?

Back to the rural country, where there is no opportunity, or availability. Those areas are exclusively relegated to the tired old bastard society. And kids today don't give a rats ass about hunting, fishing, or farming. And as the tired old bastards die off, their land is being sold to developers, when the kids inherit it.

Some good points.

 

[Fueri]

You are full of crap!
One only needs to start by driving I-5 through the heart of Seattle, North or South bound, to see the homeless encampments along the edges of that interstate freeway in the core of the city.

PM me next time you are in this area and I'll give you the real tour of our area/city and drop you off some place "real safe" and full of "positivity" about midnight and leave you there until dawn.

Seattle- So great even the homeless want to live there!

 

[kaz]

Seattle is just one example of a Blue city so successful that you're astonished by the disparity between its safety/beauty on the one hand, and the bizarre apocalyptic narratives attached to it by conservatives on the other:

Seattle is a victim of its own success | Horsey cartoon

This once middle-class town is getting too expensive for the middle class.

www.seattletimes.com

But Seattle's not alone in the reality/false narrative gap; both New York City and Los Angeles rank among the 20 greatest cities in the world in a recent Conde Nast survey:

These are officially the best cities in the world for 2023 â and Dubai is up there

In fact, there's only one city that ranks higher

www.cntravellerme.com

I mention Seattle only because a recent visit there revealed an amazing, safe, thriving city whose biggest problem - as with many US cities - is affordable housing due to the influx of newcomers clamoring for its emerald beauty.

So what gives?

Part of the explanation may be that conservatives are so hungry for a return to power that they seem unable to refrain from saying whatever it takes to sell a less than truthful narrative regarding our greatest cities in particular, and our country in general.

But there may be a deeper cause, as explored in this article:

The science behind why conservatives are so easily triggered

Curiously, it is the same reason why they are best equipped for the meme wars

www.salon.com

What is the cost - to both conservatives and those exposed to their false narratives - of insisting on apocalyptic myths of societal decay contrary to the reality of blossoming urban areas?

What can be done to turn away these troubling false narratives and embrace the beautiful truth?

It's funny how you picked Seattle. We had a get together with family friends who live in Seattle less than a month ago in early December and they were terrified to leave anything in their car overnight ... in the middle of the country in Pennsylvania ...

Americans don't feel safe and that is going to destroy you in the election, MAGA man

 

[Nostra]

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[Nostra]

San Franshitsco.

 

[AMart]

That's correct.

I toured alleged trouble spots, and found nothing but positivity.

Great city, like so many other Blue gems in the US.

Why do you think you're so invested in falsely claiming otherwise?